Sonic RPG by Bioware [Archive]

Sinfulfate

06-21-2007, 10:04 PM

I cant believe Sega is letting Bioware make a Sonic RPG game for the ds. Hopefully it will be sweet, havent seen a good sonic game in awhile hopefully bioware will change that.

Mark this one up as something totally unexpected - BioWare and SEGA have announced they're collaborating on an exclusive role-playing game for Nintendo DS starring Sonic the Hedgehog.

BiowWare is best known for its console RPGs such as Jade Empire as well as Knights of the Old Republic for Xbox. The company was first noticed by gamers for its work on the Balder's Gate PC series.

Currently without a name, this Sonic RPG is set for release in 2008. Simon Jeffery, president and COO of SEGA America said: "BioWare is one of the hottest names in RPG development in the world. Everyone at SEGA has huge confidence that Sonic is in the safest of hands, and that BioWare can create the ultimate handheld RPG experience for gamers of all ages."

Greg Zeschuk, president of BioWare said: "We're thrilled to be working with SEGA on Sonic, one of the industry's most enduring and compelling icons." Meanwhile, Ray Muzky, CEO of BioWare added: "As huge fans of Sonic ourselves, we're committed to delivering a truly amazing story-driven experience within the Sonic universe, focusing on capturing the character's broad appeal and placing him in a completely original adventure."

That's all for now but we'll keep you updated as more news filters in.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/798/798275p1.html

Macca

06-21-2007, 10:10 PM

Sounds great to me. Always thought Sonic was awesome, and BioWare makes great games. Can't wait.

Synyster gates

06-21-2007, 10:13 PM

Sounds great to me. Always thought Sonic was awesome, and BioWare makes great games. Can't wait.
Same. until sonic heroes came out.
besides that, maybe this will be a good enough reason to wipe the grape juice off my DS and actually play it.

Mister Chief

06-21-2007, 10:17 PM

Always thought Sonic was awesome

Have you played a Sonic game recently?

Anyway I think this game needs to be great ( Bioware can do it ) otherwise this is another genre sonic has failed in.

Macca

06-21-2007, 10:18 PM

Eh, Sonic as a character still kicks ass. It's the **** games that bring him down.
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Have you played a Sonic game recently?

Anyway I think this game needs to be great ( Bioware can do it ) otherwise this is another genre sonic has failed in.Sonic Rivals on PSP was decent, and Sonic Rush was great.

Mister Chief

06-21-2007, 10:21 PM

Sonic Rivals was crap.

Sonic Rush has been the only good Sonic game in 6 years IMO.

And it was on the DS so maybe.....

Macca

06-21-2007, 11:38 PM

Rivals wasn't crap. It was decent. It wasn't bad.

Mister Chief

06-21-2007, 11:41 PM

In my opinion it wasn't fun.

Macca

06-21-2007, 11:43 PM

Eh, I thought it was.

Tooplex

06-22-2007, 03:49 AM

What RPG's have Bioware made?

iball®

06-22-2007, 03:58 AM

What RPG's have Bioware made?
Go back and read the first fcuking post!

Mister Chief

06-22-2007, 04:16 AM

BiowWare is best known for its console RPGs such as Jade Empire as well as Knights of the Old Republic for Xbox.

Tooplex

06-22-2007, 04:31 AM

Go back and read the first fcuking post!

Calm down for god sake i only asked, you douche

Urza

06-22-2007, 05:21 AM

Calm down for god sake i only asked, you douche
Except you asked a question in which the answers were in original post. That means you were replying to a thread in which you didn't even read the original post - something you shouldn't ever do.

Rivals wasn't crap. It was decent. It wasn't bad.
Agreed.

Macca

06-22-2007, 05:49 AM

Calm down for god sake i only asked, you douche
I'll say 3 months, any other guesses?

Tooplex

06-22-2007, 08:00 AM

Except you asked a question in which the answers were in original post. That means you were replying to a thread in which you didn't even read the original post - something you shouldn't ever do.

Yes but i did read it but i was just wondering if they made other than that said in the first post so i guess no one knows any others i guess i worded my question a bit wrong.
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I'll say 3 months, any other guesses?

What the hell is that supposed to mean!

whitehawk

06-22-2007, 08:06 AM

Sonic Rivals on PSP was decent, and Sonic Rush was great.I haven't played Sonic Rush, but Sonic Rivals was horrible.. Just horrible..

What the hell is that supposed to mean!Just don't post anything off-topic in here anymore and calling people douches. Thanks.

Tooplex

06-22-2007, 08:38 AM

Just don't post anything off-topic in here anymore and calling people douches. Thanks.

This forum is a laugh You moan about me calling someone a douche but you dont moan about iball Swearing? :ROFL:

Totally Idiotic.

Basil-Culex

06-22-2007, 09:16 AM

Western RPGs.....ugghh

Sonic via Bioware........maybe he'll have a gun like shadow did :ROFL:

anyways, here are my ratings on the latest sonic games i've played:

Sonic Rush--------8/10
Sonic Rivals--------7.5/10

By the looks of it, sega seriously needs to relive the CLASSIC elements like in Sonic Rush, except they should work on a PSP or PS3/Wii system and not have any gimmicks along the way.

whitehawk

06-22-2007, 09:21 AM

That 7.5 rating is too generous. I'd give it about a 4.5. Maybe 5.

Sonic Battle Adventure 2 or something for the Gamecube was a great 3D sonic. Then I played Sonic Heroes..

Hopefully this Sonic RPG will be good. Only problem is, it's not Sonic. If you can't run fast in this game, it's just a Bioware RPG with a blue Hedgehog. I'd rather play the new Olympic game and pit Sonic and Mario against each other.

iball®

06-22-2007, 09:21 AM

Western RPGs.....ugghh
I guess you've never played one of the most fantastic RPGs of all time: Wasteland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasteland_%28computer_game%29).
And you've probably never played Fallout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_%28computer_game%29) either?
And you've never played ANY of the Ultima series' of RPGs either? Or any of the titles that can currently be played via the ScummVM or FreeSCI emulators?
And I guess one could consider World of Warcraft to be a "Western RPG" as well and it's currently the most successful MMORPG to date.
Remember one thing: "Western RPGs" were the FIRST RPGs.

In other words, don't make idiotic statements like you did and maybe people will think you're actually intelligent enough to know what you're talking about.

Basil-Culex

06-22-2007, 09:26 AM

I guess you've never played one of the most fantastic RPGs of all time: Wasteland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasteland_%28computer_game%29).
And you've probably never played Fallout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_%28computer_game%29) either?
And you've never played ANY of the Ultima series' of RPGs either? Or any of the titles that can currently be played via the ScummVM or FreeSCI emulators?
And I guess one could consider World of Warcraft to be a "Western RPG" as well and it's currently the most successful MMORPG to date.
Remember one thing: "Western RPGs" were the FIRST RPGs.

In other words, don't make idiotic statements like you did and maybe people will think you're actually intelligent enough to know what you're talking about.

I am entitled to my opinion as you are to yours.

And yes I have played Ultima, and to me it sucks. nough said.
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That 7.5 rating is too generous. I'd give it about a 4.5. Maybe 5.

Sonic Battle Adventure 2 or something for the Gamecube was a great 3D sonic. Then I played Sonic Heroes..

Hopefully this Sonic RPG will be good. Only problem is, it's not Sonic. If you can't run fast in this game, it's just a Bioware RPG with a blue Hedgehog. I'd rather play the new Olympic game and pit Sonic and Mario against each other.

Sonic Rivals was a "decent" game, it was suffering from glitches and bugs yes, but aside from that it was "decent"

And I agree Sonic Adventure 2 Battle for GCN was amazing.
-= Double Post =-
oh, and I forgot to mention one more thing, If your going to insult someone based upon their opinion(and they are free to make one, you are not god), than please refrain from posting as you do not know the meaning of opinion.

Sinfulfate

06-22-2007, 11:18 AM

iball®

06-22-2007, 11:51 AM

I agree way to many S-E and japanese rpg fanboys and think western developers cant make rpgs. Its a shame mos them havent even played any good Western rpgs.
Yeah, they forget that "the West" invented the RPG video game genre.
Colossal Cave was first in the all-text category followed up by the original Adventure on the 2600 for a full color graphics console RPG.

Making a Sonic rpg is risky but I trust Bioware to make it great.
I don't know, most of the latest incarnations of Sonic have been lackluster at best with only one or two really standing out from the muck.
Usually when I want my Sonic fix, I boot up the Sega CD emulator and play Sonic CD.

Basil-Culex

06-22-2007, 12:10 PM

I agree way to many S-E and japanese rpg fanboys and think western developers cant make rpgs. Its a shame mos them havent even played any good Western rpgs.

Making a Sonic rpg is risky but I trust Bioware to make it great.

Well how can I not be, when there are far more better JRpgs than there are good western rpgs.

and plus most of the rpgs from the west are usually on the Pc which I do not play pc games.
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Yeah, they forget that "the West" invented the RPG video game genre.
Colossal Cave was first in the all-text category followed up by the original Adventure on the 2600 for a full color graphics console RPG.

I don't know, most of the latest incarnations of Sonic have been lackluster at best with only one or two really standing out from the muck.
Usually when I want my Sonic fix, I boot up the Sega CD emulator and play Sonic CD.

For one thing, I did not say Jrpgs were the 1st kind of RPG, and two I was not born before 1988, so I'm not fond of the games that came out that long ago. all text category doesnt make it a turn based rpg either.

anyways, hopefully bio ware doesnt kill the game their making.

Sinfulfate

06-22-2007, 10:19 PM

Well how can I not be, when there are far more better JRpgs than there are good western rpgs.

and plus most of the rpgs from the west are usually on the Pc which I do not play pc games.
If thats the case then how can you judge western rpgs if you dont play them? You need to start playing some western rpgs to see for yourself.

Trigun

06-22-2007, 10:21 PM

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Urza

06-22-2007, 10:30 PM

western rpgs 90% don't have a good story
The little value your opinion had in my eyes is now gone.

Trigun

06-22-2007, 10:32 PM

well they don't while american rpg devlopers have no concept of creating a good story. no japanese developer besides capcom has a good sense of mindless blood filled violoence
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The little value your opinion had in my eyes is now gone.
that's nice and if any wrpgs have any good stories feel free to let me know because i haven't encountered one yet.

Sinfulfate

06-22-2007, 10:36 PM

i've played every bioware rpg and they aren't that great,western rpgs 90% don't have a good story and that's one of the main selling points of a jrpg.
Jrpgs are better in our opinions. there is no point in arguing about it .
The sotryline was actually really good in Star Wars KoToR, Jade Empire, and Oblivion. lol at your last statement you pretty much confirmed the fact your a JRpg fanboy right there.

They may have invented it but no way did they make it good imo. Rpgs sucked until japanese developers refined them imo. If a western developer trys to develop an rpg we get games like fable which was crap imo. If a japanese developer trys to make a shooter we get Dirge of cerberus. It evens out. Western developers can't make decent rpgs imo and eastern developers can't make shooters. Enough said.
Fixed so it makes sense.

lol If you dont think Oblivion is a decent rpg but think FF X-2 was you have issues. Anyways look out for Mass Effect even a S-E fanboy cant deny how awesome that game will be.

Urza

06-22-2007, 10:36 PM

well they don't while american rpg devlopers have no concept of creating a good story. no japanese developer besides capcom has a good sense of mindless blood filled violoence

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Trigun

06-22-2007, 10:40 PM

The sotryline was actually really good in Star Wars KoToR, Jade Empire, and Oblivion. lol at your last statement you pretty much confirmed the fact your a JRpg fanboy right there.

Fixed so it makes sense.

lol If you dont think Oblivion is a decent rpg but think FF X-2 was you have issues. Anyways look out for Mass Effect even a S-E fanboy cant deny how awesome that game will be.
KOTR sucked and so did every other game on that list.
FFX-2 had good gameplay,music and replay value that's why i played it so much.
mass effect isn't out yet so it doesn't count. but i'll be sure to buy it and play it to see if western devlopers have finally gotten something right in an rpg.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/urzathetyrant/1182576088615.png

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Urza

06-22-2007, 10:42 PM

FFX-2 had good gameplay,music and replay value that's why i played it so much.
Oh lawd, are you serious? Its almost unanimously agreed that FFX-2 had the WORST storyline out of the last six. This kid doesn't even know his Japanese RPGs.

KOTR sucked and so did every other game on that list.
And thats why people like and play those games? Your logic is baffling.

Trigun

06-22-2007, 10:44 PM

Oh lawd, are you serious? Its almost unanimously agreed that FFX-2 had the WORST storyline out of the last six. This kid doesn't even know his Japanese RPGs.
did i SAY STORY YOU DUMB *******? no i didn't so why don't you read the whole thing next time.i bet i've been playing rpgs longer than you have been alive

Urza

06-22-2007, 10:47 PM

did i SAY STORY YOU DUMB *******? no i didn't so why don't you read the whole thing next time.
Last I checked dear, storyline was somewhat of a key element in how good an RPG is.

Sinfulfate

06-22-2007, 10:50 PM

did i SAY STORY YOU DUMB *******? no i didn't so why don't you read the whole thing next time.i bet i've been playing rpgs longer than you have been alive
But you said this:

i've played every bioware rpg and they aren't that great,western rpgs 90% don't have a good story and that's one of the main selling points of a jrpg.
Jrpgs are better in our opinions. there is no point in arguing about it .

Trigun

06-22-2007, 10:54 PM

Last I checked dear, storyline was somewhat of a key element in how good an RPG is.
yes but it isn't the reason i said i played it so much. i like the story but in no way is it the entire reason i play ffx-2
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But you said this:
i did say that but did i say it was the WHOLE reason i played ffx-2? no i didn't ffx-2 is one of the few rpgs that is fun enough to play over and over again
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Oh lawd, are you serious? Its almost unanimously agreed that FFX-2 had the WORST storyline out of the last six. This kid doesn't even know his Japanese RPGs.

And thats why people like and play those games? Your logic is baffling.
only in the United states and in europe contrary to what you say ffx-2 was on famitsu's top 100 games of all time list. and guess what FFX-2 got higher than FF2,FF1,Super mario world, and resident evil 4.
and my favorite qoute of all
Japanese have a different taste in games than us in the US. They prefer story/love stories over pointless killing. I tend to agree more with that then with "Wahoo lets blow **** up!!! OH LOOK AT ALL THAT BLOOD!!!!"

Sinfulfate

06-22-2007, 11:02 PM

yes but it isn't the reason i said i played it so much. i like the story but in no way is it the entire reason i play ffx-2
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i did say that but did i say it was the WHOLE reason i played ffx-2? no i didn't ffx-2 is one of the few rpgs that is fun enough to play over and over again
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only in the United states and in europe contrary to what you say ffx-2 was on famitsu's top 100 games of all time list. and guess what FFX-2 got higher than FF2,FF1,Super mario world, and resident evil 4.
and my favorite qoute of all
Oh so the score a game gets tells us how great it is? Cool. Pokemon Silver got a 10/10 so its better than 99.99% of all games sweet. Im trading in Gears of War for it NOW!!!!

lol Urza backed you in the corner and thats all you can think of, priceless. Might as well just admit your a S-E fanboy now before iball comes and owns you.

Urza

06-22-2007, 11:06 PM

only in the United states and in europe contrary to what you say ffx-2 was on famitsu's top 100 games of all time list. and guess what FFX-2 got higher than FF2,FF1,Super mario world, and resident evil 4.
and my favorite qoute of all
Lets see which Final Fantasy games ranked higher than FFX-2 on that list hmm?

Final Fantasy V

Final Fantasy VI

Final Fantasy VII

Final Fantasy VIII

Final Fantasy IX

Final Fantasy X

Now lets actually read what I said.

Oh lawd, are you serious? Its almost unanimously agreed that FFX-2 had the WORST storyline out of the last six. This kid doesn't even know his Japanese RPGs.

Trigun

06-22-2007, 11:06 PM

Oh so the score a game gets tells us how great it is? Cool. Pokemon Silver got a 10/10 so its better than 99.99% of all games sweet. Im trading in Gears of War for it NOW!!!!
well according to you yes because games with high scores sell the most and acording to you "if it sold better then it's better" and ffx-2 sold well so that must make it better than 99.9 % of games. pokemon sells better than gears of war so that must make it better
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Lets see which Final Fantasy games ranked higher than FFX-2 on that list hmm?

Final Fantasy V

Final Fantasy VI

Final Fantasy VII

Final Fantasy VIII

Final Fantasy IX

Final Fantasy X

Now lets actually read what I said.

wow you really don't pay attention do you . is final fantasy V and VI in the last six games? last time i checked FFXII is out. so no.

Urza

06-22-2007, 11:08 PM

wow you really don't pay attention do you . is final fantasy V and VI in the last six games? last time i checked FFXII is out. so no.
That list you're referring to came out Spring '06 dear.

Sinfulfate

06-22-2007, 11:12 PM

well according to you yes because games with high scores sell the most and acording to you "if it sold better then it's better" and ffx-2 sold well so that must make it better than 99.9 % of games. pokemon sells better than gears of war so that must make it better

I dont rememebr myself saying that but more sales mean it was more popular. Its all really about opinion but saying stuff like Oblivion sucks is just plain foolishness. If you dont like a game thats fine but it doesnt mean(not all the time) it sucks.

Basil-Culex

06-23-2007, 09:35 AM

If thats the case then how can you judge western rpgs if you dont play them? You need to start playing some western rpgs to see for yourself.

since you guys been saying that all the old ones were good, I've played all the old ones, Dungeons and Dragons, Ultima, Might and magic, never did like the gameplay system nor the storylines, they were too simplistic the storylines i mean.
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And I still say Mass Effect looks like a FPS from the trailer i've seen, I dont see any RPG elements in it unless you can show me a trailer where it does

Sinfulfate

06-23-2007, 09:55 AM

since you guys been saying that all the old ones were good, I've played all the old ones, Dungeons and Dragons, Ultima, Might and magic, never did like the gameplay system nor the storylines, they were too simplistic the storylines i mean.
-= Double Post =-
And I still say Mass Effect looks like a FPS from the trailer i've seen, I dont see any RPG elements in it unless you can show me a trailer where it doesThe game is like Star Wars KoToR and just uses guns. It isnt even first person so how can it be a FPS?

Adiuvo

06-23-2007, 10:44 AM

Person Shooter, entirely new genre...

Anyway, Bioware can't screw this up, they're too good. Don't see how they could use the touch screen effectively though.

Basil-Culex

06-23-2007, 10:56 AM

The game is like Star Wars KoToR and just uses guns. It isnt even first person so how can it be a FPS?

Oh i see...hmmm dont like anything thats first person than :(
-= Double Post =-
Person Shooter, entirely new genre...

Anyway, Bioware can't screw this up, they're too good. Don't see how they could use the touch screen effectively though.

I hope they dont use the touch screen that much, I like the games that use less of the touch screen.

Joseph Stalin 2

06-27-2007, 02:06 PM

In my opinion it wasn't fun.

Yeah it really wasnt that great after all , tomorrow I´ll be getting my ds lite - cant wait to try sonic rush ^__^ *R4Cough*

Basil-Culex

07-06-2007, 06:26 AM

speaking of sonic, i cant wait for Sonic Rush Adventure, btw, i live SOnic Rush :)

Joey

07-06-2007, 12:46 PM

They are taking my favorite video game character/franchise (Sonic), and making it into my second most hated video game genre (RPG... It's second behind RTS). I don't really know how to feel about this. They're either going to make me really hate Sonic, or really like RPG's...

Oh, and I played Sonic Adventure 2 on my DC last night, and it freaking sucked. It suffered from the same things Heroes did. It forced us to use characters other than Sonic (the Knuckles and Tail stages are among the most pointless in video game history), and the camera just flat out sucked.

Sonic Adventure on the other hand, was awesome.

So that trims the list of great sonic games down to three. Sonic 2, Sonic Adventure, and Sonic Rush.

I don't think I can continue to watch Sonic get raped any longer...