ok so this will be the 6th Zen Vision M 30 gig, ive RMAed. 2 or so of those RMA's were my own careless mistake and i broke the device. but what the ****... the other 4 were totally random. like yesterday i formatted the player and was transferring music, left, came back, the computer said it has been disconnected. i look and it has a black screen and the power button is gloweing blue like it usually does when its on. its a good product and has great features but it breaks too damn much on me. so im RMAing it again and i might be lookin for an alternative. i might get an ipod. zune is out of the question. any other devicecs like the ipod video and zune.
also im swaying away from the ipod because its inferior to the zvm. (except ipods are probably more stable.)