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**-Dan-** · 07-20-2007, 01:35 PM

Well, I'm back, after my ban and I was wondering if anyone could tell me which of these PC's is the best?

Number 1?
Number 2?
Number 3?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DELL-Inspiron-...QQcmdZViewItem

I was thinking number 1 or number two, but I'd prefer the opinions of someone else. Cheers.

explosions · 07-20-2007, 01:39 PM

#1

**-Dan-** · 07-20-2007, 01:41 PM

Any particular reason for your choice? I know that Core 2 Duo performs better than Athlon 64 x2, but will the 4GB RAM on the second PC make much of a difference? I suppose what I'm trying to say is; Should I go for the better CPU or better RAM?

explosions · 07-20-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eBay

Delivering the best overall performance. Period.
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**-Dan-** · 07-20-2007, 01:45 PM

^^Read my edited post. The only thing I don't like about the first one is the graphics. It's the ONLY thing about that PC that bugs me. I'd be able to get a better card, but I don't know how to install one and I don't know anyone else who can and I wouldn't trust myself opening it up and using a guide to install it. I'd probably go for a 8500GT if I did upgrade.

explosions · 07-20-2007, 01:49 PM

Better CPU cause you can upgrade the RAM to 4GB (if you need it)

**twelve** · 07-20-2007, 01:54 PM

2nd one.

Better gfx card and amazing amount of memory. The CPU isn't quite as good but it's still awesome and still capable of keeping up with anything you throw at it.

I've got an early X2 (before the changeover to AM2 and DDR2) and it's fantastic.

Plus it's cheaper.

**-Dan-** · 07-20-2007, 02:04 PM

Thanks Phil. Does anyone know what games a nVidia 6100 is capable of running? (if any lol) or can someone recommend a store or something in the UK that could possible upgrade the graphics card for me? (If I bought the card and took the card and my PC to them)

**AndyMosh** · 07-20-2007, 02:16 PM

Not many of the latest ones, you really would want a 7800GT or better for awesome gaming.

**-Dan-** · 07-20-2007, 02:18 PM

I was planning on getting an 8500GT seperately, but as I said, I can't install it and I don't know anyone who can..I'm in a pickle =S

**twelve** · 07-20-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FoneJacker

Not many of the latest ones, you really would want a 7800GT or better for awesome gaming.

Don't talk rubbish. A 6100 will run pretty much all of the latest games. It wont run them at full spec but it'll run them.

To get the most out of games then yeah you'll want something better (no point taking it to a store it's easy enough to do yourself). But short term the 6100 will work fine. It wont run anything the requires Direct X10 but I'm not aware of anything that needs it, Halo 2 PC was going to but in the end it runs on DX9, I guess MS decided that forcing you to get Vista was enough and made it so you didnt have to buy a new gfx card too.

Kyle0wnsYou · 07-20-2007, 02:22 PM

You can't install it? uh, it's REALLY easy. I can walk you through it

**twelve** · 07-20-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by -Dan-

I was planning on getting an 8500GT seperately, but as I said, I can't install it and I don't know anyone who can..I'm in a pickle =S

Seriously swapping a gfx card is amazingly simple. You just open the case, pull the old one out (unless it's built into the motherboard) then you just need to slot the new one in.

**-Dan-** · 07-20-2007, 02:28 PM

Hmm..This PC won't be purchased until later in the year, but still planning early is always a good thing, right? Is there any precautions I'd need to take while working in the case? Could someone write up a little guide of what I'd need, the precautions etc. I'd be grateful. I also need a little something to persuade my father it's easy to do because he doesn't like the idea of opening my PC. I don't blame him, either; I've only seen the insides of a PC once, and it's a 9 year old PC.

**AndyMosh** · 07-20-2007, 02:28 PM

*Hides from Phil*

Yeh, look up the CNet guide, it's really cool.

Building a computer? Then look no further!

Safety first, aye?

1. Always decharge yourself, unless you wanna get electrocuted.

2. Use the right equipment.

And planning early is good, but when it comes to buying, you will be able to get better stuff.

**-Dan-** · 07-20-2007, 02:48 PM

Uh-huh. I won't be getting this until Christmas so there maybe better deals around then, but the advice helps so I know what to look for in future.

**twelve** · 07-20-2007, 02:50 PM

Round about xmas there'll be deals in places like PC World, Toys 'R' Us, Comet, Currys etc.

You'll be quite likely to get a really decent PC for similar prices to those on ebay then.

**PopeOfDope** · 07-20-2007, 02:54 PM

Never research PCs unless you are willing to spend the money the next day. Tech moves so fast that you are wasting your time doing research now.

**AndyMosh** · 07-20-2007, 02:56 PM

Yes. Listen to PoD.

**Vanden** · 07-20-2007, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil

Round about xmas there'll be deals in places like PC World, Toys 'R' Us, Comet, Currys etc.

You'll be quite likely to get a really decent PC for similar prices to those on ebay then.

Yea it called black friday'... Also Dont buy a PC from ebay...

**twelve** · 07-20-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Canadian_Idiot

Yea it called black friday'... Also Dont buy a PC from ebay...

Black friday is a US custom not UK.

**-Dan-** · 07-20-2007, 03:42 PM

@Vanden - Why not buy from eBay if the seller is a trusted seller? I still think even at Christmas, eBay will have better deals than PC World and the like.

**twelve** · 07-20-2007, 03:55 PM

tbh I kinda agree with vanden. Returning items on ebay can be a pain.

I'd only use ebay for buying parts and building the PC yourself.

Probably 95% of the time ebay is fine and you wont have any problems, but there's still that percentage that doesn't have it hassle free.

**-Dan-** · 07-20-2007, 04:14 PM

But the PC's on PC World and stuff are junk and building is not an option.

**twelve** · 07-20-2007, 04:17 PM

PC World do some really decent PC's now. You pay slightly more but you get better support and customer care.

And why is building not an option? It's cheaper, easier and has more felxibility. It really isn't difficult at all. If you can build a car out of Mechano, you can build a PC.

explosions · 07-20-2007, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil

PC World do some really decent PC's now. You pay slightly more but you get better support and customer care.

And why is building not an option? It's cheaper, easier and has more felxibility. It really isn't difficult at all. If you can build a car out of Mechano, you can build a PC.

His dad won't let him

**twelve** · 07-20-2007, 04:19 PM

Is it a PC for you or your dad? If it's for you then do it anyway.

**-Dan-** · 07-20-2007, 04:30 PM

It's my PC, but my dad is paying.

explosions · 07-20-2007, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil

Is it a PC for you or your dad? If it's for you then do it anyway.

But then his dad would probably be like "YOU DIDN'T TELL ME THE COMPUTER WASN'T ASSEMBLED!!!!!!!! YOU DISRESPECTED MY AUTHORITY!!!!!!!!! AND YOU WASTED MY MONEY!!!!!!!" maybe

**twelve** · 07-20-2007, 05:10 PM

lol

That's stupid. You're 14 (according to your profile), I was drinking with my dad at 14, parents bought me a screwdriver set when I was 12 cos I had a love of taking things apart and I was less likely to break them if I undid screws instead of going at it with a hammer. I first electrocuted myself at 8.

Sounds to me like your dad's a little bit old fashioned.

07-20-2007, 02:16 PM	#9
AndyMosh chaccaron. Join Date: Sep 2006 Real First Name: Andrew Location: England Posts: 2,615 Trader Feedback: 0	Not many of the latest ones, you really would want a 7800GT or better for awesome gaming. __________________ whyHELLOder.

07-20-2007, 02:22 PM	#12
Kyle0wnsYou uoysnw0elyK Kyle0wnsyou Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 955 Trader Feedback: 0	You can't install it? uh, it's REALLY easy. I can walk you through it __________________

07-20-2007, 02:28 PM	#15
AndyMosh chaccaron. Join Date: Sep 2006 Real First Name: Andrew Location: England Posts: 2,615 Trader Feedback: 0	Hides from Phil Yeh, look up the CNet guide, it's really cool. Building a computer? Then look no further! Safety first, aye? 1. Always decharge yourself, unless you wanna get electrocuted. 2. Use the right equipment. And planning early is good, but when it comes to buying, you will be able to get better stuff. __________________ whyHELLOder.

07-20-2007, 02:56 PM	#19
AndyMosh chaccaron. Join Date: Sep 2006 Real First Name: Andrew Location: England Posts: 2,615 Trader Feedback: 0	Yes. Listen to PoD. __________________ whyHELLOder.

07-20-2007, 01:35 PM	#1
-Dan- LEEEROOOOY JEEENNKINSSS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Real First Name: Dan Location: UK Just Played: FIFA 10 Posts: 1,254 Trader Feedback: 0	Which PC? Well, I'm back, after my ban and I was wondering if anyone could tell me which of these PC's is the best? Number 1? Number 2? Number 3? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DELL-Inspiron-...QQcmdZViewItem I was thinking number 1 or number two, but I'd prefer the opinions of someone else. Cheers.

07-20-2007, 01:39 PM	#2
explosions banned 4 LIFE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jupiter Posts: 3 Trader Feedback: 0	#1

07-20-2007, 01:41 PM	#3
-Dan- LEEEROOOOY JEEENNKINSSS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Real First Name: Dan Location: UK Just Played: FIFA 10 Posts: 1,254 Trader Feedback: 0	Any particular reason for your choice? I know that Core 2 Duo performs better than Athlon 64 x2, but will the 4GB RAM on the second PC make much of a difference? I suppose what I'm trying to say is; Should I go for the better CPU or better RAM?

07-20-2007, 01:45 PM	#5
-Dan- LEEEROOOOY JEEENNKINSSS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Real First Name: Dan Location: UK Just Played: FIFA 10 Posts: 1,254 Trader Feedback: 0	^^Read my edited post. The only thing I don't like about the first one is the graphics. It's the ONLY thing about that PC that bugs me. I'd be able to get a better card, but I don't know how to install one and I don't know anyone else who can and I wouldn't trust myself opening it up and using a guide to install it. I'd probably go for a 8500GT if I did upgrade.

07-20-2007, 01:49 PM	#6
explosions banned 4 LIFE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jupiter Posts: 3 Trader Feedback: 0	Better CPU cause you can upgrade the RAM to 4GB (if you need it)

07-20-2007, 01:54 PM	#7
twelve Muffin Love n Lemon Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Phil Location: Surrey, UK Just Played: Why is this mandatory? Posts: 11,734 Trader Feedback: 0	2nd one. Better gfx card and amazing amount of memory. The CPU isn't quite as good but it's still awesome and still capable of keeping up with anything you throw at it. I've got an early X2 (before the changeover to AM2 and DDR2) and it's fantastic. Plus it's cheaper.

07-20-2007, 02:04 PM	#8
-Dan- LEEEROOOOY JEEENNKINSSS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Real First Name: Dan Location: UK Just Played: FIFA 10 Posts: 1,254 Trader Feedback: 0	Thanks Phil. Does anyone know what games a nVidia 6100 is capable of running? (if any lol) or can someone recommend a store or something in the UK that could possible upgrade the graphics card for me? (If I bought the card and took the card and my PC to them)

07-20-2007, 02:18 PM	#10
-Dan- LEEEROOOOY JEEENNKINSSS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Real First Name: Dan Location: UK Just Played: FIFA 10 Posts: 1,254 Trader Feedback: 0	I was planning on getting an 8500GT seperately, but as I said, I can't install it and I don't know anyone who can..I'm in a pickle =S

07-20-2007, 02:48 PM	#16
-Dan- LEEEROOOOY JEEENNKINSSS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Real First Name: Dan Location: UK Just Played: FIFA 10 Posts: 1,254 Trader Feedback: 0	Uh-huh. I won't be getting this until Christmas so there maybe better deals around then, but the advice helps so I know what to look for in future.

07-20-2007, 02:50 PM	#17
twelve Muffin Love n Lemon Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Phil Location: Surrey, UK Just Played: Why is this mandatory? Posts: 11,734 Trader Feedback: 0	Round about xmas there'll be deals in places like PC World, Toys 'R' Us, Comet, Currys etc. You'll be quite likely to get a really decent PC for similar prices to those on ebay then.

07-20-2007, 02:54 PM	#18
PopeOfDope DopaMean Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 3,739 Trader Feedback: 0	Never research PCs unless you are willing to spend the money the next day. Tech moves so fast that you are wasting your time doing research now.

07-20-2007, 03:42 PM	#22
-Dan- LEEEROOOOY JEEENNKINSSS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Real First Name: Dan Location: UK Just Played: FIFA 10 Posts: 1,254 Trader Feedback: 0	@Vanden - Why not buy from eBay if the seller is a trusted seller? I still think even at Christmas, eBay will have better deals than PC World and the like.

07-20-2007, 03:55 PM	#23
twelve Muffin Love n Lemon Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Phil Location: Surrey, UK Just Played: Why is this mandatory? Posts: 11,734 Trader Feedback: 0	tbh I kinda agree with vanden. Returning items on ebay can be a pain. I'd only use ebay for buying parts and building the PC yourself. Probably 95% of the time ebay is fine and you wont have any problems, but there's still that percentage that doesn't have it hassle free.

07-20-2007, 04:14 PM	#24
-Dan- LEEEROOOOY JEEENNKINSSS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Real First Name: Dan Location: UK Just Played: FIFA 10 Posts: 1,254 Trader Feedback: 0	But the PC's on PC World and stuff are junk and building is not an option.

07-20-2007, 04:17 PM	#25
twelve Muffin Love n Lemon Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Phil Location: Surrey, UK Just Played: Why is this mandatory? Posts: 11,734 Trader Feedback: 0	PC World do some really decent PC's now. You pay slightly more but you get better support and customer care. And why is building not an option? It's cheaper, easier and has more felxibility. It really isn't difficult at all. If you can build a car out of Mechano, you can build a PC.

07-20-2007, 04:19 PM	#27
twelve Muffin Love n Lemon Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Phil Location: Surrey, UK Just Played: Why is this mandatory? Posts: 11,734 Trader Feedback: 0	Is it a PC for you or your dad? If it's for you then do it anyway.

07-20-2007, 04:30 PM	#28
-Dan- LEEEROOOOY JEEENNKINSSS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Real First Name: Dan Location: UK Just Played: FIFA 10 Posts: 1,254 Trader Feedback: 0	It's my PC, but my dad is paying.

07-20-2007, 05:10 PM	#30
twelve Muffin Love n Lemon Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Phil Location: Surrey, UK Just Played: Why is this mandatory? Posts: 11,734 Trader Feedback: 0	lol That's stupid. You're 14 (according to your profile), I was drinking with my dad at 14, parents bought me a screwdriver set when I was 12 cos I had a love of taking things apart and I was less likely to break them if I undid screws instead of going at it with a hammer. I first electrocuted myself at 8. Sounds to me like your dad's a little bit old fashioned.

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