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**chux_chux** · 01-14-2008, 08:37 AM

I'm thinking about upgrading my processor, but i dont know which one is better.

1. Core 2 Duo 3.0 Ghz

2. Core 2 Quad 2.4 Ghz

**FrozenIpaq** · 01-14-2008, 08:40 AM

All Depends on the model of it, there are core 2 duo processors that beat the Quad's in benchmark tests - so if you have anymore info as to what processor it is that might help us.

**chux_chux** · 01-14-2008, 08:45 AM

ok here are the links to them

1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115028

2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115017

**FrozenIpaq** · 01-14-2008, 08:48 AM

I would go with the Core 2 Duo 3.0, it has better performance benchmarks than the Quad 2.4

**twelve** · 01-14-2008, 08:58 AM

I think Quad core's are completely unnecessary at this point in time. Most games/applications don't even take advantage of the Dual cores yet.

**FrozenIpaq** · 01-14-2008, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil

I think Quad core's are completely unnecessary at this point in time. Most games/applications don't even take advantage of the Dual cores yet.

I just purchased a Desktop with the Quad that chux_chux has linked to lol (it was a steal of a deal though) - The Duo core he has listed is better than it unless I choose to overclock my Quad (which I won't do - temp goes too high and I don't have proper cooling right now)

**twelve** · 01-14-2008, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrozenIpaq

I just purchased a Desktop with the Quad that chux_chux has linked to lol (it was a steal of a deal though) - The Duo core he has listed is better than it unless I choose to overclock my Quad (which I won't do - temp goes too high and I don't have proper cooling right now)

Zalman offer some awesome cooling solutions. I built a media PC so stuck in a Zalman and it's silent and 10 degrees cooler. On the slowest speed I can run CPU-Burn for approx 10 mins before I start to worry about the temp.

With that I could probably overclock to some extreme speeds but I'd rather have it silent. It boots quick anyway so no real need.

**NEvolution** · 01-14-2008, 05:15 PM

Try running P95v255a and see what temps you get...never heard of CPU-Burn before.

If you don't plan on upgrading your comp often, I would just go with the Q6600.

I'm using a Q6600 G0 in my sig rig right now and it's just soo much better than my old e6600.

**Vanden** · 01-14-2008, 05:19 PM

NEvolution it been to long....What new?

Also longterm I feel it better to go with the Quad..Once Vista and liunx start utilizing the muti core cpu the Quad will greatly have better benchmarks performance than the CD2...

I hate my P4...

Hardrive · 01-14-2008, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanden

NEvolution it been to long....What new?

Also longterm I feel it better to go with the Quad..Once Vista and liunx start utilizing the muti core cpu the Quad will greatly have better benchmarks performance than the CD2...

I hate my P4...

I know, I can't even move my P4 to another case without upgrading the cooling. My current Dell case has a plastic air duct... thing that goes around the heatsink to make all the air go across it. When I moved it to a new case, after about an hour of use, the CPU would overheat and Linux would move into using 10% efficiency to save the processor. Not cool.

**Vanden** · 01-14-2008, 05:48 PM

Well altest collage it coming.YOur dad cant send you to school with a p4...lol

Time for a major upgrade..
8 core mac pro

+ 8 core mac book pro...

Now all I got to do is get a dam 30 on my act and I be all set...

**Soulphalanx** · 01-14-2008, 06:02 PM

don't use the stock cooler for sure, i got temps around 65 idle and 85 under load in the summer

Changed coolers and it dropped to about 55 under load

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 01-14-2008, 06:57 PM

i just switched to a Zalman 9700NT from the stock cooler, and it makes a huuugggeee difference. At stock speeds i get 9C core 1 and 7C core 2. Overclocked from 2.66 to 3.6 i get 13C core 1 and 11C core 2. The Zalman cooler performs best when the cpu is overclocked and under load imo.

**Soulphalanx** · 01-14-2008, 07:00 PM

you do realize that 7 C is about refrigerator temperatures
HOW COLD IS YOUR HOUSE!?!?!

either that or get a more accurate heat measurement

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 01-14-2008, 07:23 PM

i've been using coretemp, intel's tat...its accurate, its not really cold in my house, about 69C. I have a lot of fans blowing into my case and a few blowing out...and i leave my case open so that keeps it cool too. I could probably get better temps if i used better thermal paste (im using the stock zalman one) and got a zalman 9700 LED...the copper would probably make a difference.

**NEvolution** · 01-14-2008, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanden

NEvolution it been to long....What new?

Also longterm I feel it better to go with the Quad..Once Vista and liunx start utilizing the muti core cpu the Quad will greatly have better benchmarks performance than the CD2...

I hate my P4...

Been going nuts with computers. :P I haven't touched any consoles for a very loong time LOL.

But yea, that's exactly what I mean when one should get a quad now rather than a dual core especially when the price for a Q6600 is so low.

Btw, this is what I've been up to.

http://forums.qj.net/showpost.php?p=...postcount=2223

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frenchb0ygenius

i've been using coretemp, intel's tat...its accurate, its not really cold in my house, about 69C. I have a lot of fans blowing into my case and a few blowing out...and i leave my case open so that keeps it cool too. I could probably get better temps if i used better thermal paste (im using the stock zalman one) and got a zalman 9700 LED...the copper would probably make a difference.

umm yea...there's no way you can get below ambient temps with air cooling nor water cooling.

You either have to do chilled water, tec, phase, etc...but most definitely not air or water.

I suspect the temperature probes on your motherboard may be malfunctioning.

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 01-14-2008, 08:00 PM

those are the temps at startup, they definately get hotter after a while. And those are the temps of the cores separately, the total temp of the cpu is about 25C i believe at idle.

oh and nice ****ing pC!!!!! what's in there?

**FrozenIpaq** · 01-14-2008, 08:01 PM

How much did that main rig cost you NEv

**NEvolution** · 01-14-2008, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frenchb0ygenius

those are the temps at startup, they definately get hotter after a while. And those are the temps of the cores separately, the total temp of the cpu is about 25C i believe at idle.

The temps of the cores have to be higher than that of the CPU.
Either you have your numbers mixed up or the temp probes are broken.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrozenIpaq

How much did that main rig cost you NEv

Umm, I've upgraded a few times now so...I'm guessing around 2k+, not including my w/c stuff [I think]

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 01-14-2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

The temps of the cores have to be higher than that of the CPU.
Either you have your numbers mixed up or the temp probes are broken.

maybe, but i'll check again. right now im out of a video card cause im "stepping up" but i'll check soon.

**BinoPanda** · 01-15-2008, 05:25 AM

yeah get the quad, better longterm investment

**chux_chux** · 01-15-2008, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrozenIpaq

I just purchased a Desktop with the Quad that chux_chux has linked to lol (it was a steal of a deal though) - The Duo core he has listed is better than it unless I choose to overclock my Quad (which I won't do - temp goes too high and I don't have proper cooling right now)

Hahahaha NIce
-= Double Post =-
what is "overclocking" i never got that. how do u make your computer overclock

**Vanden** · 01-15-2008, 10:10 AM

Run at a higher clock rate than it was designed for...

**Soulphalanx** · 01-15-2008, 10:25 AM

Quad's better if you intend on using your computer for multitasking and video work

**NEvolution** · 01-15-2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chux_chux

what is "overclocking" i never got that. how do u make your computer overclock

Here's a good read regarding overclocking in regards to Intel.

A Beginners Guide to Intel Overclocking. Features and Problems Explained.

**chux_chux** · 01-22-2008, 10:01 AM

k thanks

**GmDude66** · 01-22-2008, 02:22 PM

Get the e6750, it has 1333mhz FSB

**chux_chux** · 01-23-2008, 09:05 AM

but which one will do the best on Crysis?

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 01-23-2008, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GmDude66

Get the e6750, it has 1333mhz FSB

1. The E6750 is dual core

2. If you overclock the Q6600 you will get much higher fsb's than 1333

3. The Q6600 has a higher multiplier, so better overclocking

please think about what you're going to say before you say it.

Definitely go with the Q6600. It will do better on Crysis.

**FrozenIpaq** · 01-23-2008, 12:43 PM

I've got the Q6600 and am very happy with it, it's overclocking capabilities are great and ran the crysis demo perfectly

01-14-2008, 08:37 AM	#1
chux_chux Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 92 Trader Feedback: 0	New Processor? I'm thinking about upgrading my processor, but i dont know which one is better. 1. Core 2 Duo 3.0 Ghz 2. Core 2 Quad 2.4 Ghz

01-14-2008, 05:15 PM	#8
NEvolution Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Where am I? Firmware Posts: 3,505 Trader Feedback: 0	Try running P95v255a and see what temps you get...never heard of CPU-Burn before. If you don't plan on upgrading your comp often, I would just go with the Q6600. I'm using a Q6600 G0 in my sig rig right now and it's just soo much better than my old e6600. __________________ [img]http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9792/1qj7.png[/img] [SIZE="1"][B]\|Main Rig\|[/B] Asus P5K Deluxe [0404] Q6600 L738A999 G0 SLACR @ 3.6Ghz [400x9] 2x1GB Firestix DDR2-1000 ATI HD2900XT [MCW60] Seagate 7200.11 500 GB / 7200.10 320GB Creative X-FI Platinum Antec P182 [B]\|Cooling\|[/B] D-Tek FuZion [Quad - Nozzle] [B]\|[/B] MCW60 [B]\|[/B] MCR320 [B]\|[/B] EKRes150 [B]\|[/B] DDC-1T /w AlphaCool Top[/SIZE]

01-14-2008, 05:19 PM	#9
Vanden Join Date: Aug 2005 Real First Name: Vanden Location: Vandenland Just Played: Marval 1 Posts: 11,489 Trader Feedback: 0	NEvolution it been to long....What new? Also longterm I feel it better to go with the Quad..Once Vista and liunx start utilizing the muti core cpu the Quad will greatly have better benchmarks performance than the CD2... I hate my P4... __________________ You know where to find me.

01-14-2008, 05:48 PM	#11
Vanden Join Date: Aug 2005 Real First Name: Vanden Location: Vandenland Just Played: Marval 1 Posts: 11,489 Trader Feedback: 0	Well altest collage it coming.YOur dad cant send you to school with a p4...lol Time for a major upgrade.. 8 core mac pro + 8 core mac book pro... Now all I got to do is get a dam 30 on my act and I be all set... __________________ You know where to find me.

01-14-2008, 06:02 PM	#12
Soulphalanx Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TROY Posts: 2,989 Trader Feedback: 0	don't use the stock cooler for sure, i got temps around 65 idle and 85 under load in the summer Changed coolers and it dropped to about 55 under load __________________ [IMG]http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3852/untitled1copy7rf.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9711/newavatarjb9.gif[/IMG] [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=9733][COLOR=DarkRed]Operation Positive Posting[/COLOR][/URL] [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=49762][COLOR=Red]Guide to All Guides[/COLOR][/URL] [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=13798][COLOR=Blue]Posting Guidelines[/COLOR][/URL] [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=4394][COLOR=Green]Piracy Policy[/COLOR][/URL] [SIZE="3"][URL=http://forums.qj.net/f-general-psp-help-22/t-guide-opening-psp-disassembly-assembly-video-104303.html][COLOR=Red][B][U]PSP Disassembly Assembly Video Tutorial[/U][/B][/COLOR][/URL][/SIZE]

01-14-2008, 08:40 AM	#2
FrozenIpaq Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,986 Trader Feedback: 0	All Depends on the model of it, there are core 2 duo processors that beat the Quad's in benchmark tests - so if you have anymore info as to what processor it is that might help us.

01-14-2008, 08:45 AM	#3
chux_chux Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 92 Trader Feedback: 0	ok here are the links to them 1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115028 2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115017

01-14-2008, 08:48 AM	#4
FrozenIpaq Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,986 Trader Feedback: 0	I would go with the Core 2 Duo 3.0, it has better performance benchmarks than the Quad 2.4

01-14-2008, 08:58 AM	#5
twelve Muffin Love n Lemon Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Phil Location: Surrey, UK Just Played: Why is this mandatory? Posts: 11,734 Trader Feedback: 0	I think Quad core's are completely unnecessary at this point in time. Most games/applications don't even take advantage of the Dual cores yet.

01-14-2008, 06:57 PM	#13
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	i just switched to a Zalman 9700NT from the stock cooler, and it makes a huuugggeee difference. At stock speeds i get 9C core 1 and 7C core 2. Overclocked from 2.66 to 3.6 i get 13C core 1 and 11C core 2. The Zalman cooler performs best when the cpu is overclocked and under load imo.

01-14-2008, 07:00 PM	#14
Soulphalanx Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TROY Posts: 2,989 Trader Feedback: 0	you do realize that 7 C is about refrigerator temperatures HOW COLD IS YOUR HOUSE!?!?! either that or get a more accurate heat measurement __________________ [IMG]http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3852/untitled1copy7rf.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9711/newavatarjb9.gif[/IMG] [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=9733][COLOR=DarkRed]Operation Positive Posting[/COLOR][/URL] [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=49762][COLOR=Red]Guide to All Guides[/COLOR][/URL] [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=13798][COLOR=Blue]Posting Guidelines[/COLOR][/URL] [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=4394][COLOR=Green]Piracy Policy[/COLOR][/URL] [SIZE="3"][URL=http://forums.qj.net/f-general-psp-help-22/t-guide-opening-psp-disassembly-assembly-video-104303.html][COLOR=Red][B][U]PSP Disassembly Assembly Video Tutorial[/U][/B][/COLOR][/URL][/SIZE]

01-14-2008, 07:23 PM	#15
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	i've been using coretemp, intel's tat...its accurate, its not really cold in my house, about 69C. I have a lot of fans blowing into my case and a few blowing out...and i leave my case open so that keeps it cool too. I could probably get better temps if i used better thermal paste (im using the stock zalman one) and got a zalman 9700 LED...the copper would probably make a difference.

01-14-2008, 08:00 PM	#17
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	those are the temps at startup, they definately get hotter after a while. And those are the temps of the cores separately, the total temp of the cpu is about 25C i believe at idle. oh and nice ****ing pC!!!!! what's in there?

01-14-2008, 08:01 PM	#18
FrozenIpaq Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,986 Trader Feedback: 0	How much did that main rig cost you NEv

01-15-2008, 05:25 AM	#21
BinoPanda Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: cardboard box Posts: 484 Trader Feedback: 0	yeah get the quad, better longterm investment

01-15-2008, 10:10 AM	#23
Vanden Join Date: Aug 2005 Real First Name: Vanden Location: Vandenland Just Played: Marval 1 Posts: 11,489 Trader Feedback: 0	Run at a higher clock rate than it was designed for... __________________ You know where to find me.

01-15-2008, 10:25 AM	#24
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01-22-2008, 10:01 AM	#26
chux_chux Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 92 Trader Feedback: 0	k thanks

01-22-2008, 02:22 PM	#27
GmDude66 Give It All Join Date: Jan 2006 Real First Name: Derek Location: United States Just Played: Burnout Paradise Posts: 3,899 Blog Entries: 1 Trader Feedback: 0	Get the e6750, it has 1333mhz FSB __________________ Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6ghz (Multiplier: 9x; Bus: 400mhz; FSB: 1600mhz;) GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512 MB (Core: 850mhz; Memory: 1200mhz; Shader: 2100mhz;) ASUS P5K Pro Motherboard Patriot Extreme (2x2GB) / OCZ HPC (2x1GB) 6GB Total Dual Channel RAM (DDR2 1066mhz) OCZ GameXstream 700w 2x Seagate 250GB HD (RAID0)

01-23-2008, 09:05 AM	#28
chux_chux Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 92 Trader Feedback: 0	but which one will do the best on Crysis?

01-23-2008, 12:43 PM	#30
FrozenIpaq Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,986 Trader Feedback: 0	I've got the Q6600 and am very happy with it, it's overclocking capabilities are great and ran the crysis demo perfectly

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