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**Deturbanator** · 05-18-2008, 04:32 PM

E6850 vs Q6700
I dont plan on overclocking...

and this is my mother board cpu support and neither show up on the list, should i be worried about buying either?
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...-SLI%20Premium

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-18-2008, 04:59 PM

If you've got decent cooling, quad. And right now i think at microcenter they have Q9450s for reaaallly cheap, like as much as the Q6700. At Fry's they also have Q6600s for like $180 or $170

**GmDude66** · 05-18-2008, 05:10 PM

Dual; runs cooler, uses less power, and has greater overclocking abilities.

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-18-2008, 05:16 PM

He said he's not gonna overclock...but even so Q6600 and Q6700 can oc just as well as dual cores, if not better.

**GmDude66** · 05-18-2008, 06:15 PM

Ok?

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**FrozenIpaq** · 05-18-2008, 06:23 PM

Go with the Quad core if you do not plan on overclocking. Without overclocking (on dual and/or Quad) the Quad out preforms that dual core. Just be sure you have adequate cooling. I have the Q6600 and since I got it from dell (shock

), they have a massive heatsink and fan for the CPU alone - although it keeps it extremely cool

Hardrive · 05-18-2008, 07:18 PM

I just got the Q6600, and I am very pleased with it.

It doesn't run that hot, just make sure that you get one with G0 stepping. Mine runs at about 38 C idle, 55 C under load. That's with the stock cooler too.

**teeth_03** · 05-18-2008, 07:24 PM

Im going dual core because I was told that the higher frequency is better,and that games might not use the other 2 cores.

Weather thats a right assumption tho,im not sure about

EDIT-

I want this one-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037

The 45nm thing has an advantage in heat,but does it outperform the Conroe?

EDIT2-

The Wolfdale also has 6 megs of L2 cache vs 4 megs on the Conroe,and for the 3.0ghz,the Wolfdale is only 10 dollars more. So if you do dual core,I'd suggest Wolfdale instead of conroe,but I'm not much of an expert

**Deturbanator** · 05-18-2008, 08:31 PM

my mobo doesnt support 45nm cpus

hmm i was planning on the artic 7 for cooling

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-18-2008, 08:34 PM

Eh, I'd get something better...like the Tuniq Tower or Thermalright 120.

**Deturbanator** · 05-18-2008, 09:41 PM

hmm i like the tuniq tower :]
i hear the artic 7 was reallly good though

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-19-2008, 07:27 AM

I guess it could be, but when I hear about the best air coolers I hear tuniq tower or thermalright ultra 120.

**PhonicUK** · 05-19-2008, 07:54 AM

<3 My Phenom ^_^

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-19-2008, 02:23 PM

AMD quads are a joke.

Hardrive · 05-19-2008, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhonicUK

<3 My Phenom ^_^

What are your load temps?

**Deturbanator** · 05-19-2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhonicUK

<3 My Phenom ^_^

2 8800 gtx :[
wow **** you!

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-19-2008, 03:04 PM

2 8800GTX, 4GB ram, and a ****ing AMD Quad?...no wonder your 3dmark score is only 1k higher than mine...

**GmDude66** · 05-19-2008, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teeth_03

Im going dual core because I was told that the higher frequency is better,and that games might not use the other 2 cores.

Weather thats a right assumption tho,im not sure about

EDIT-

I want this one-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037

The 45nm thing has an advantage in heat,but does it outperform the Conroe?

EDIT2-

The Wolfdale also has 6 megs of L2 cache vs 4 megs on the Conroe,and for the 3.0ghz,the Wolfdale is only 10 dollars more. So if you do dual core,I'd suggest Wolfdale instead of conroe,but I'm not much of an expert

Yea, the 45nm duals are fuggin amazing.
I'm getting the e8400 for my next build

**Deturbanator** · 05-19-2008, 06:46 PM

:[
im really disappointed about my mobos inability to work with 45 nm chips, i really wanted the 84/8500 for my upgrade but obviously that didnt work out...
i think im gonna go witht he q6700 because i read about g0 stepping and how easy it would be to overclock to 3-3.3 ghz

Hardrive · 05-19-2008, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deturbanator

:[
im really disappointed about my mobos inability to work with 45 nm chips, i really wanted the 84/8500 for my upgrade but obviously that didnt work out...
i think im gonna go witht he q6700 because i read about g0 stepping and how easy it would be to overclock to 3-3.3 ghz

You can do that on the q6600 as well. I just ordered one from newegg last week, and I received the G0 stepping model.

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-19-2008, 07:37 PM

G0 will do 4.0ghz with decent cooling.

**teeth_03** · 05-19-2008, 07:45 PM

watch the price on the wolfdales (dual core 45nm)

the 3.00ghz (E8400) is $194.99
the 3.16ghz (E8500) is $269.99

do the math and the 166 mhz more of processor just isnt worth it

EDIT- on new egg

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-19-2008, 09:14 PM

Why are you still talking about 45nm? Deturb already ruled them out. And of course those prices are there, it's NewEgg.

**teeth_03** · 05-20-2008, 11:43 AM

mainly to Harddrives reply about 'getting one for his new rig'

shoulda quoted it,but meh...

Hardrive · 05-20-2008, 07:39 PM

I'm confused as well. I don't think that I said anything about 45nm OR dual core...

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-20-2008, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teeth_03

mainly to Harddrives reply about 'getting one for his new rig'

shoulda quoted it,but meh...

That was gmdude...

**teeth_03** · 05-21-2008, 07:24 AM

another reason why I shoulda quoted it

**GmDude66** · 05-22-2008, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frenchb0ygenius

That was gmdude...

LOL that wasn't me saying ANYTHING to Hardrive, I was talking to teeth

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-22-2008, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GmDude66

LOL that wasn't me saying ANYTHING to Hardrive, I was talking to teeth

That's not what I said...

**Kilo_Bravo** · 05-23-2008, 02:41 AM

This is famous? How come I haven't heard of it?

05-18-2008, 04:32 PM	#1
Deturbanator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: On the border of Los Gatos and San Jose CA Posts: 6,340 Trader Feedback: 0	The famous Quad vs Dual core fight E6850 vs Q6700 I dont plan on overclocking... and this is my mother board cpu support and neither show up on the list, should i be worried about buying either? http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...-SLI%20Premium __________________ [CENTER][size=1][URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=65979]The Ultimate QJ FAQ / Guide[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=13798]Posting Guidelines[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=16857]What NOT To Post[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=37144]How to search[/URL] [COLOR="Silver"] [URL="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/deturbanator/"]My Photoshop Stuff[/URL] [/SIZE][/COLOR][/CENTER]

05-18-2008, 05:10 PM	#3
GmDude66 Give It All Join Date: Jan 2006 Real First Name: Derek Location: United States Just Played: Burnout Paradise Posts: 3,899 Blog Entries: 1 Trader Feedback: 0	Dual; runs cooler, uses less power, and has greater overclocking abilities. __________________ Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6ghz (Multiplier: 9x; Bus: 400mhz; FSB: 1600mhz;) GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512 MB (Core: 850mhz; Memory: 1200mhz; Shader: 2100mhz;) ASUS P5K Pro Motherboard Patriot Extreme (2x2GB) / OCZ HPC (2x1GB) 6GB Total Dual Channel RAM (DDR2 1066mhz) OCZ GameXstream 700w 2x Seagate 250GB HD (RAID0)

05-18-2008, 06:15 PM	#5
GmDude66 Give It All Join Date: Jan 2006 Real First Name: Derek Location: United States Just Played: Burnout Paradise Posts: 3,899 Blog Entries: 1 Trader Feedback: 0	Ok? [action=GmDude66]claps for Frenchb0ygenius[/action] __________________ Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6ghz (Multiplier: 9x; Bus: 400mhz; FSB: 1600mhz;) GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512 MB (Core: 850mhz; Memory: 1200mhz; Shader: 2100mhz;) ASUS P5K Pro Motherboard Patriot Extreme (2x2GB) / OCZ HPC (2x1GB) 6GB Total Dual Channel RAM (DDR2 1066mhz) OCZ GameXstream 700w 2x Seagate 250GB HD (RAID0)

05-18-2008, 08:31 PM	#9
Deturbanator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: On the border of Los Gatos and San Jose CA Posts: 6,340 Trader Feedback: 0	my mobo doesnt support 45nm cpus hmm i was planning on the artic 7 for cooling __________________ [CENTER][size=1][URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=65979]The Ultimate QJ FAQ / Guide[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=13798]Posting Guidelines[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=16857]What NOT To Post[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=37144]How to search[/URL] [COLOR="Silver"] [URL="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/deturbanator/"]My Photoshop Stuff[/URL] [/SIZE][/COLOR][/CENTER]

05-18-2008, 09:41 PM	#11
Deturbanator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: On the border of Los Gatos and San Jose CA Posts: 6,340 Trader Feedback: 0	hmm i like the tuniq tower :] i hear the artic 7 was reallly good though __________________ [CENTER][size=1][URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=65979]The Ultimate QJ FAQ / Guide[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=13798]Posting Guidelines[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=16857]What NOT To Post[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=37144]How to search[/URL] [COLOR="Silver"] [URL="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/deturbanator/"]My Photoshop Stuff[/URL] [/SIZE][/COLOR][/CENTER]

05-18-2008, 04:59 PM	#2
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	If you've got decent cooling, quad. And right now i think at microcenter they have Q9450s for reaaallly cheap, like as much as the Q6700. At Fry's they also have Q6600s for like $180 or $170

05-18-2008, 05:16 PM	#4
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	He said he's not gonna overclock...but even so Q6600 and Q6700 can oc just as well as dual cores, if not better.

05-18-2008, 06:23 PM	#6
FrozenIpaq Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,986 Trader Feedback: 0	Go with the Quad core if you do not plan on overclocking. Without overclocking (on dual and/or Quad) the Quad out preforms that dual core. Just be sure you have adequate cooling. I have the Q6600 and since I got it from dell (shock ), they have a massive heatsink and fan for the CPU alone - although it keeps it extremely cool

05-18-2008, 07:18 PM	#7
Hardrive No longer a community member. Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 22 Trader Feedback: 0	I just got the Q6600, and I am very pleased with it. It doesn't run that hot, just make sure that you get one with G0 stepping. Mine runs at about 38 C idle, 55 C under load. That's with the stock cooler too.

05-18-2008, 07:24 PM	#8
teeth_03 300k Hot Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Big Blue Ball of Bor Posts: 1,335 Trader Feedback: 0	Im going dual core because I was told that the higher frequency is better,and that games might not use the other 2 cores. Weather thats a right assumption tho,im not sure about EDIT- I want this one- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037 The 45nm thing has an advantage in heat,but does it outperform the Conroe? EDIT2- The Wolfdale also has 6 megs of L2 cache vs 4 megs on the Conroe,and for the 3.0ghz,the Wolfdale is only 10 dollars more. So if you do dual core,I'd suggest Wolfdale instead of conroe,but I'm not much of an expert

05-18-2008, 08:34 PM	#10
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	Eh, I'd get something better...like the Tuniq Tower or Thermalright 120.

05-19-2008, 07:27 AM	#12
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	I guess it could be, but when I hear about the best air coolers I hear tuniq tower or thermalright ultra 120.

05-19-2008, 07:54 AM	#13
PhonicUK Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 261 Trader Feedback: 0	<3 My Phenom ^_^

05-19-2008, 02:23 PM	#14
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	AMD quads are a joke.

05-19-2008, 03:04 PM	#17
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	2 8800GTX, 4GB ram, and a ****ing AMD Quad?...no wonder your 3dmark score is only 1k higher than mine...

05-19-2008, 06:46 PM	#19
Deturbanator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: On the border of Los Gatos and San Jose CA Posts: 6,340 Trader Feedback: 0	:[ im really disappointed about my mobos inability to work with 45 nm chips, i really wanted the 84/8500 for my upgrade but obviously that didnt work out... i think im gonna go witht he q6700 because i read about g0 stepping and how easy it would be to overclock to 3-3.3 ghz __________________ [CENTER][size=1][URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=65979]The Ultimate QJ FAQ / Guide[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=13798]Posting Guidelines[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=16857]What NOT To Post[/URL] \| [URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=37144]How to search[/URL] [COLOR="Silver"] [URL="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/deturbanator/"]My Photoshop Stuff[/URL] [/SIZE][/COLOR][/CENTER]

05-19-2008, 07:37 PM	#21
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	G0 will do 4.0ghz with decent cooling.

05-19-2008, 07:45 PM	#22
teeth_03 300k Hot Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Big Blue Ball of Bor Posts: 1,335 Trader Feedback: 0	watch the price on the wolfdales (dual core 45nm) the 3.00ghz (E8400) is $194.99 the 3.16ghz (E8500) is $269.99 do the math and the 166 mhz more of processor just isnt worth it EDIT- on new egg

05-19-2008, 09:14 PM	#23
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	Why are you still talking about 45nm? Deturb already ruled them out. And of course those prices are there, it's NewEgg.

05-20-2008, 11:43 AM	#24
teeth_03 300k Hot Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Big Blue Ball of Bor Posts: 1,335 Trader Feedback: 0	mainly to Harddrives reply about 'getting one for his new rig' shoulda quoted it,but meh...

05-20-2008, 07:39 PM	#25
Hardrive No longer a community member. Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 22 Trader Feedback: 0	I'm confused as well. I don't think that I said anything about 45nm OR dual core...

05-21-2008, 07:24 AM	#27
teeth_03 300k Hot Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Big Blue Ball of Bor Posts: 1,335 Trader Feedback: 0	another reason why I shoulda quoted it

05-23-2008, 02:41 AM	#30
Kilo_Bravo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 65 Trader Feedback: 0	This is famous? How come I haven't heard of it?

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