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**tave** · 05-27-2008, 11:21 PM

Im building a computer for my friend, and he doesnt need it to be a hardcore gaming computer, but he wants it to be able to run counter strike source in max

we're building this comp by scratch and its our first time

our budget is around $500 canadian, and we're looking for the parts to be shipped to canada..

Here is our current parts list...please try to keep changes around the same price...if not cheaper, and are we missing anything? or any compatibility issues?

processor:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane 2.5GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103212

motherboard:
Foxconn A7GM-S AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186141

graphics card:
SAPPHIRE 100226L Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102715

case:
RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black SECC STEEL ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811156062

hard-drive:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST380815AS 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148231

ram
GeIL Ultra 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model GX22GB8500PDC - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144034

dvd/cd drive
SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model SH-S202J - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151161

im looking for a cheaper case with a powersupply

yes..i know newegg doesnt ship to canada, but i can send it to a mailing address in the states and pick it up

**Zx30** · 05-28-2008, 12:29 AM

I doubt anyone will actually find every single part for you and post it up on a forum..

If it's really your first time, maybe you should do some homework on it first. Like a book or something..
Building a PC for dumbings
http://www.amazon.com/Building-PC-Du.../dp/0764507826
Tom's Hardware Guide
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789716860/$%7B0%7D

Haven't tried them myself, but they seem useful.

PS: Your not really dumb just because the book says it...

**teeth_03** · 05-28-2008, 11:13 AM

which is currently $504.29 USD

does he need stuff like monitor/speakers/keyobard/mouse/disc drives?

or is the 500 just for the main components?

**tave** · 05-28-2008, 06:04 PM

updated parts list

**tave** · 05-29-2008, 08:39 PM

bump

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-29-2008, 09:06 PM

*yawn*...no offense or anything but there are so many of these threads popping up everywhere...why don't you just look at someone elses, and compare? If they have a good setup and you like it, then you're done. Not trying to sound like a hypocrite cause i did this a while back too.

**tave** · 05-29-2008, 10:37 PM

but my price ranges are differant..im trying to make this within a $500 budget

**BinoPanda** · 05-30-2008, 05:44 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814127328R
why not get a 8800

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103251
amd quad core (clocked .1 slower and has 2mb less memory) but it's a quad core.

if you do go amd you need a different motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...X2+%2f+Sempron

p.s. see if you can't find a discdrive and harddrive locally so you don't have pay shipping.

**tave** · 05-31-2008, 08:34 AM

new completely reworked parts list...its now an AMD computer

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 05-31-2008, 09:06 AM

Quote:

its now an AMD computer

Bad move. Especially with the one you chose. Stick with an Intel CPU and switch the mobo and that pc will be fine.

**AndyMosh** · 05-31-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Frenchb0ygenius

Bad move. Especially with the one you chose. Stick with an Intel CPU and switch the mobo and that pc will be fine.

Why are you so anti AMD, they are processors, if it processes things like it says it does, then you should be happy, I agree that Intel is better for OC'ing but I don't see anything wrong with AMD, you get what pay for.

**teeth_03** · 05-31-2008, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMosh

Why are you so anti AMD, they are processors, if it processes things like it says it does, then you should be happy, I agree that Intel is better for OC'ing but I don't see anything wrong with AMD, you get what pay for.

because most people are so on the Intel/Nvidia bandwagon these days that if anyone suggests AMD or ATI,they go elitist on you and think your an idiot for trying something else

**tave** · 05-31-2008, 02:43 PM

so should i stick with AMD or go intel?

Hardrive · 05-31-2008, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMosh

Why are you so anti AMD, they are processors, if it processes things like it says it does, then you should be happy, I agree that Intel is better for OC'ing but I don't see anything wrong with AMD, you get what pay for.

Currently, Intel has the faster processors. Why would you spend your money on an inferior product?

Quote:

Originally Posted by teeth_03

because most people are so on the Intel/Nvidia bandwagon these days that if anyone suggests AMD or ATI,they go elitist on you and think your an idiot for trying something else

Now, who would that be?

**teeth_03** · 05-31-2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardrive

Now, who would that be?

RAM,the other moderator named after a main PC component

Hardrive · 05-31-2008, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teeth_03

RAM,the other moderator named after a main PC component

Thanks. I'll take him out back and beat that fanboy with a stick.

**tave** · 05-31-2008, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardrive

Currently, Intel has the faster processors. Why would you spend your money on an inferior product?

Now, who would that be?

amds cheaper, and im on a strict budget

Hardrive · 05-31-2008, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tave

amds cheaper, and im on a strict budget

I guess, but you'll probably regret it later. I'd say wait a few weeks, mow a few lawns or flip a few burgers, and go for the better processor.

**GW2** · 05-31-2008, 05:07 PM

well everything on there is fine for souce on max, you could dumb down the graphics card seeing as its overpowered for source and underpowered for anything new. everything else is fine, if its within the budget then thats a great computer for 500 bucks. you did remember to buy windows right? unless your "bought" windows already.

**tave** · 05-31-2008, 05:25 PM

updated processor

**BinoPanda** · 05-31-2008, 06:16 PM

I'm not a AMD fan but i feel that if the choice is a quad core or a dual core you should go quad. but if you are going back to dual get an intel, unless the price difference is significant.

Hardrive · 05-31-2008, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BinoPanda

I'm not a AMD fan but i feel that if the choice is a quad core or a dual core you should go quad. but if you are going back to dual get an intel, unless the price difference is significant.

Have you even read the thread? He doesn't have the money for a quad.

**Tommi** · 05-31-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BinoPanda

I'm not a AMD fan but i feel that if the choice is a quad core or a dual core you should go quad. but if you are going back to dual get an intel, unless the price difference is significant.

The Quad will make no difference on CS.

take it from someone who owns a quad core.... very little games use it.

**teeth_03** · 05-31-2008, 06:59 PM

which basically means higher clocked dual cores will probably perform better in games

**tave** · 05-31-2008, 07:06 PM

yeah..i plan to play css....but according to some sites and peoples reviews...i should be able to play bioshock and crysis with the stuff i have

**Tommi** · 05-31-2008, 07:13 PM

dude..... every PC is different, your airflow, mobo ram..... all comes into consideration.

**BinoPanda** · 06-01-2008, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardrive

Have you even read the thread? He doesn't have the money for a quad.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...E16819103251
amd quad core (clocked .1 slower and has 2mb less memory) but it's a quad core.

he does have the money for a quad core... it's just not that great of a quad core.
you guys are right he doesn't need it for CS:S or really any other games but i don't really see a reason not to get it unless the dual core chip will outperform it (which it may very well do) but no harm in future proofing.

*fixed link

**Vanden** · 06-01-2008, 05:46 PM

Broken link....

Also you might want to go the route of pre built I found you a great deal...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883107688

It has near the specs as yours but with a 500gb HDD... and just add 1 more gb of ram for 20 bucks

You also get a Card Reader plus a back up gfx card in case your over heats or something...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820141210 and a legit copy of vista + a a keyboard and mouse.

You may go 20 bucks over your limit but you are getting a way better deal...
I also havent really looked at it real well but I not sure if that card will fit well in there..

Also a little offtopic but 500 Canadian dollars = 503.88 U.S. dollars
where back on top...lol

**Kilo_Bravo** · 06-01-2008, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teeth_03

because most people are so on the Intel/Nvidia bandwagon these days that if anyone suggests AMD or ATI,they go elitist on you and think your an idiot for trying something else

I don't. To each, his own I say. I got lots of AMD and Intel machines. I can't say about performance because some of them are dedicated rigs.

Now what I'm really interested in are those CELL add-in cards. Hee hee!

05-27-2008, 11:21 PM	#1
tave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Next Door Posts: 1,401 Trader Feedback: 0	Check my parts list Im building a computer for my friend, and he doesnt need it to be a hardcore gaming computer, but he wants it to be able to run counter strike source in max we're building this comp by scratch and its our first time our budget is around $500 canadian, and we're looking for the parts to be shipped to canada.. Here is our current parts list...please try to keep changes around the same price...if not cheaper, and are we missing anything? or any compatibility issues? processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane 2.5GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103212 motherboard: Foxconn A7GM-S AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186141 graphics card: SAPPHIRE 100226L Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102715 case: RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WBP Black SECC STEEL ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811156062 hard-drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST380815AS 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148231 ram GeIL Ultra 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model GX22GB8500PDC - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144034 dvd/cd drive SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model SH-S202J - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151161 im looking for a cheaper case with a powersupply yes..i know newegg doesnt ship to canada, but i can send it to a mailing address in the states and pick it up __________________ [QUOTE=steve_acfc] [B]I've just emailed my bank to ask for my own address[/B][/QUOTE] Last edited by tave; 05-31-2008 at 05:25 PM..

05-28-2008, 12:29 AM	#2
Zx30 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Work/Xbox360/here Posts: 3,926 Trader Feedback: 0	I doubt anyone will actually find every single part for you and post it up on a forum.. If it's really your first time, maybe you should do some homework on it first. Like a book or something.. Building a PC for dumbings http://www.amazon.com/Building-PC-Du.../dp/0764507826 Tom's Hardware Guide http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789716860/$%7B0%7D Haven't tried them myself, but they seem useful. PS: Your not really dumb just because the book says it... __________________ Under Construction

05-28-2008, 06:04 PM	#4
tave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Next Door Posts: 1,401 Trader Feedback: 0	updated parts list __________________ [QUOTE=steve_acfc] [B]I've just emailed my bank to ask for my own address[/B][/QUOTE] Last edited by tave; 05-28-2008 at 10:47 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

05-29-2008, 08:39 PM	#5
tave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Next Door Posts: 1,401 Trader Feedback: 0	bump __________________ [QUOTE=steve_acfc] [B]I've just emailed my bank to ask for my own address[/B][/QUOTE]

05-29-2008, 10:37 PM	#7
tave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Next Door Posts: 1,401 Trader Feedback: 0	but my price ranges are differant..im trying to make this within a $500 budget __________________ [QUOTE=steve_acfc] [B]I've just emailed my bank to ask for my own address[/B][/QUOTE]

05-28-2008, 11:13 AM	#3
teeth_03 300k Hot Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Big Blue Ball of Bor Posts: 1,335 Trader Feedback: 0	which is currently $504.29 USD does he need stuff like monitor/speakers/keyobard/mouse/disc drives? or is the 500 just for the main components?

05-29-2008, 09:06 PM	#6
Frenchb0ygenius Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	yawn...no offense or anything but there are so many of these threads popping up everywhere...why don't you just look at someone elses, and compare? If they have a good setup and you like it, then you're done. Not trying to sound like a hypocrite cause i did this a while back too.

05-30-2008, 05:44 AM	#8
BinoPanda Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: cardboard box Posts: 484 Trader Feedback: 0	http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814127328R why not get a 8800 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103251 amd quad core (clocked .1 slower and has 2mb less memory) but it's a quad core. if you do go amd you need a different motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...X2+%2f+Sempron p.s. see if you can't find a discdrive and harddrive locally so you don't have pay shipping.

05-31-2008, 08:34 AM	#9
tave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Next Door Posts: 1,401 Trader Feedback: 0	new completely reworked parts list...its now an AMD computer __________________ [QUOTE=steve_acfc] [B]I've just emailed my bank to ask for my own address[/B][/QUOTE]

05-31-2008, 02:43 PM	#13
tave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Next Door Posts: 1,401 Trader Feedback: 0	so should i stick with AMD or go intel? __________________ [QUOTE=steve_acfc] [B]I've just emailed my bank to ask for my own address[/B][/QUOTE]

05-31-2008, 05:07 PM	#19
GW2 The warrior is in! GW2 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In your mind Posts: 1,876 Trader Feedback: 0	well everything on there is fine for souce on max, you could dumb down the graphics card seeing as its overpowered for source and underpowered for anything new. everything else is fine, if its within the budget then thats a great computer for 500 bucks. you did remember to buy windows right? unless your "bought" windows already. __________________ http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v76/gundamwarrior2/Forza%20Cars/

05-31-2008, 05:25 PM	#20
tave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Next Door Posts: 1,401 Trader Feedback: 0	updated processor __________________ [QUOTE=steve_acfc] [B]I've just emailed my bank to ask for my own address[/B][/QUOTE]

05-31-2008, 06:16 PM	#21
BinoPanda Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: cardboard box Posts: 484 Trader Feedback: 0	I'm not a AMD fan but i feel that if the choice is a quad core or a dual core you should go quad. but if you are going back to dual get an intel, unless the price difference is significant.

05-31-2008, 06:59 PM	#24
teeth_03 300k Hot Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Big Blue Ball of Bor Posts: 1,335 Trader Feedback: 0	which basically means higher clocked dual cores will probably perform better in games

05-31-2008, 07:06 PM	#25
tave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Next Door Posts: 1,401 Trader Feedback: 0	yeah..i plan to play css....but according to some sites and peoples reviews...i should be able to play bioshock and crysis with the stuff i have __________________ [QUOTE=steve_acfc] [B]I've just emailed my bank to ask for my own address[/B][/QUOTE]

05-31-2008, 07:13 PM	#26
Tommi Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Broxburn, Scotland Posts: 967 Trader Feedback: 0	dude..... every PC is different, your airflow, mobo ram..... all comes into consideration.

06-01-2008, 05:46 PM	#28
Vanden Join Date: Aug 2005 Real First Name: Vanden Location: Vandenland Just Played: Marval 1 Posts: 11,489 Trader Feedback: 0	Broken link.... Also you might want to go the route of pre built I found you a great deal... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883107688 It has near the specs as yours but with a 500gb HDD... and just add 1 more gb of ram for 20 bucks You also get a Card Reader plus a back up gfx card in case your over heats or something... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820141210 and a legit copy of vista + a a keyboard and mouse. You may go 20 bucks over your limit but you are getting a way better deal... I also havent really looked at it real well but I not sure if that card will fit well in there.. Also a little offtopic but 500 Canadian dollars = 503.88 U.S. dollars where back on top...lol __________________ You know where to find me.

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