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smartkid005 · 12-10-2008, 03:22 PM

**teeth_03** · 12-10-2008, 04:33 PM

not too bad, but you should try to look at an Intel build for the same price.

**JoeDaStudd** · 12-12-2008, 08:54 AM

Replace the CPU with this
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PSU with this
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Ram with this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227269
Mobo with this
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GPU with this
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It comes to $45 more after rebates, but its a lot more expandable, stable (much better PSU brand) and will perform better.

Aftamath · 12-12-2008, 03:39 PM

Thats not a bad machine that you have picked out there, but I would have to agree with teeth and Joe. An intel machine would be better right now, although I would recommend getting the E6320 instead of the E7300. The 6320 runs at 1.86GHz stock, but you can overclock it with an aftermarket board, and it comes with 4MB of L2 cache. Really, chips with more cache have more potential than chips in a similar class that have less cache. Frequency isn't all that important in modern computing, especially with all these beastie GPU's that are coming out.

Oh, and I would look for a 700-800W psu also. Those 9800's are suppose to be the equivalent of two lesser cards sli'd, so it will draw more power and could put a nasty strain on a 500 or 600W psu.

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 12-13-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Aftamath

Thats not a bad machine that you have picked out there, but I would have to agree with teeth and Joe. An intel machine would be better right now, although I would recommend getting the E6320 instead of the E7300. The 6320 runs at 1.86GHz stock, but you can overclock it with an aftermarket board, and it comes with 4MB of L2 cache. Really, chips with more cache have more potential than chips in a similar class that have less cache. Frequency isn't all that important in modern computing, especially with all these beastie GPU's that are coming out.

Oh, and I would look for a 700-800W psu also. Those 9800's are suppose to be the equivalent of two lesser cards sli'd, so it will draw more power and could put a nasty strain on a 500 or 600W psu.

No. No. No. A 500w will do him fine, believe me. I ran a G92 8800GTS 512 on a crappy 500w that probably put out 300w at most, so no. Unless he is going to upgrade a lot in the future, then an 500-600w will do fine.

smartkid005 · 12-13-2008, 09:07 AM

Ok thanks you every one. I think im just going to be changing the motherboard so i can get a 2.0 slot. For the future.

Aftamath · 12-13-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Frenchb0ygenius

No. No. No. A 500w will do him fine, believe me. I ran a G92 8800GTS 512 on a crappy 500w that probably put out 300w at most, so no. Unless he is going to upgrade a lot in the future, then an 500-600w will do fine.

It may very well run it, but I would rather be safe than sorry myself. Why not buy something a little bit more powerful to be sure that there is no strain on the unit itself? I know people who have ran dual 8800's on a 500W PSU that have fried their supply's.

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 12-13-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aftamath

It may very well run it, but I would rather be safe than sorry myself. Why not buy something a little bit more powerful to be sure that there is no strain on the unit itself? I know people who have ran dual 8800's on a 500W PSU that have fried their supply's.

This is obviously not a dual 8800 setup lol. Trust me, a 9800GT will run fine, with the specs he has listed, he will only be using up at most 350-400w total.

Aftamath · 12-13-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frenchb0ygenius

This is obviously not a dual 8800 setup lol. Trust me, a 9800GT will run fine, with the specs he has listed, he will only be using up at most 350-400w total.

Sigh, that's not what I am saying. I am saying that these newer nvidia cards are meant to replace a dual gpu setup meaning that they are going to draw more power. Perhaps reading my entire post next time?

**Frenchb0ygenius** · 12-13-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aftamath

Sigh, that's not what I am saying. I am saying that these newer nvidia cards are meant to replace a dual gpu setup meaning that they are going to draw more power. Perhaps reading my entire post next time?

Perhaps I did, and perhaps I believed that your post was wrong? LAWL the 9800GT is pretty much the same as the 8800GT, which does not need a damn 700-800w psu. A friggin 500w will do, and if it can put out as much as it says it can, it will handle the system fine.

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Minimum of a 400 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 26 Amp Amps.)
Minimum 450 Watt for SLI mode system.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 28 Amp Amps.)

An available 6 pin PCI-E power connector (hard drive power dongle to PCI-E 6 pin adapter included with card)

Ok? Not to mention the 9800gt is 55nm, so it should run on less power.

I totally agree with what your saying: better safe than sorry, but imo if the psu he's getting is a quality one that can put out as much as it advertises, then he will be absolutely fine.

smartkid005 · 12-13-2008, 05:31 PM

Thanks Everyone In the end I went with a different power supply and mobo. I still put in the 9800gt but im using PCI 2.0 now and i realized the current power suply didnt have a good enough volts to amps.

Aftamath · 12-13-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Frenchb0ygenius

Perhaps I did, and perhaps I believed that your post was wrong? LAWL the 9800GT is pretty much the same as the 8800GT, which does not need a damn 700-800w psu. A friggin 500w will do, and if it can put out as much as it says it can, it will handle the system fine.

Ok? Not to mention the 9800gt is 55nm, so it should run on less power.

I totally agree with what your saying: better safe than sorry, but imo if the psu he's getting is a quality one that can put out as much as it advertises, then he will be absolutely fine.

That was all I was saying dude, you are the one that had to be a smart ass about it. I am aware that a 9800 can run on a 500W powersupply, but most pc guru's would tell you to go with a slightly more powerful power supply. I build systems all the time, and I am a computer networking specialist, so its not like I don't know what I'm talking about.

**GW2** · 12-14-2008, 09:14 PM

Dont bother changing for a 2.0 slot. its uselss. the most modern card doesnt even utlise 1.1. and yeah thats a pretty good build for a great price. id get a different case but thats all preference really. check out the antec 900 and 1200. and dont turn on the sli function on the sli RAM, it doesnt work very well.

**Evab3vA** · 12-27-2008, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Aftamath

Sigh, that's not what I am saying. I am saying that these newer nvidia cards are meant to replace a dual gpu setup meaning that they are going to draw more power. Perhaps reading my entire post next time?

Woah! No way, no how is a 9800GT gonna use anything near 500W in a standard system. He'd be fine with a 400W corsair tbh.

12-10-2008, 03:22 PM	#1
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12-12-2008, 08:54 AM	#3
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12-14-2008, 09:14 PM	#13
GW2 The warrior is in! GW2 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In your mind Posts: 1,876 Trader Feedback: 0	Dont bother changing for a 2.0 slot. its uselss. the most modern card doesnt even utlise 1.1. and yeah thats a pretty good build for a great price. id get a different case but thats all preference really. check out the antec 900 and 1200. and dont turn on the sli function on the sli RAM, it doesnt work very well. __________________ http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v76/gundamwarrior2/Forza%20Cars/

12-10-2008, 04:33 PM	#2
teeth_03 300k Hot Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Big Blue Ball of Bor Posts: 1,335 Trader Feedback: 0	not too bad, but you should try to look at an Intel build for the same price.

12-12-2008, 03:39 PM	#4
Aftamath Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 27 Trader Feedback: 0	Thats not a bad machine that you have picked out there, but I would have to agree with teeth and Joe. An intel machine would be better right now, although I would recommend getting the E6320 instead of the E7300. The 6320 runs at 1.86GHz stock, but you can overclock it with an aftermarket board, and it comes with 4MB of L2 cache. Really, chips with more cache have more potential than chips in a similar class that have less cache. Frequency isn't all that important in modern computing, especially with all these beastie GPU's that are coming out. Oh, and I would look for a 700-800W psu also. Those 9800's are suppose to be the equivalent of two lesser cards sli'd, so it will draw more power and could put a nasty strain on a 500 or 600W psu.

12-13-2008, 09:07 AM	#6
smartkid005 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 24 Trader Feedback: 0	Ok thanks you every one. I think im just going to be changing the motherboard so i can get a 2.0 slot. For the future.

12-13-2008, 05:31 PM	#11
smartkid005 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 24 Trader Feedback: 0	Thanks Everyone In the end I went with a different power supply and mobo. I still put in the 9800gt but im using PCI 2.0 now and i realized the current power suply didnt have a good enough volts to amps.

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