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**aznballa1992** · 07-23-2006, 06:54 AM

im not sure which one is better, more relaible, or what?

**Vanden** · 07-23-2006, 07:01 AM

as far as i know dvd+r are newer but there almost the same thing

also some dvd burners only support dvd-r or dvd+r

and there is no cd+r

and you should know the diffrence between dvds and cds

Double Post Merge

also here somthing i found on google

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DVD-R and DVD-RW
DVD-R was the first DVD recording format released that was compatible with standalone DVD Players.
DVD-R is a non-rewriteable format and it is compatible with about 93% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD-RW is a rewriteable format and it is compatible with about 80% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD-R and DVD-RW supports single side 4.37 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-5) and double sided 8.75 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-10).
These formats are supported by DVDForum.

DVD+R and DVD+RW
DVD+R is a non-rewritable format and it is compatible with about 89% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD+RW is a rewritable format and is compatible with about 79% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD+R and DVD+RW supports single side 4.37 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-5) and double side 8.75 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-10).
These formats are supported by the DVD+RW Alliance.

**twelve** · 07-23-2006, 07:20 AM

There are basically 2 types of recordable DVD. + and -

The DVD- are supported by the DVD Forum which was founded by:
Hitachi
Matsushita
Mitsubishi Electric
Pioneer
Philips
Sony
Thomson
Time Warner Inc.
Toshiba
JVC

The formats supported and manufactured by the DVD Forum are as follows:
DVD-R: can record up to 4.5 GB in a similar fashion to a CD-R disc. Once recorded and finalized it can be played by most DVD-ROM players.
DVD-RW: can record up to 4.7 GB in a similar fashion to a CD-RW disc.
DVD-R DL: a derivate of DVD-R that uses double-layer recordable discs to store up to 8.5 GB of data.
DVD-RAM : requires a special unit to play 4.7GB or 9.4GB recorded discs (DVD-RAM disc are usually housed in a cartridge). 2.6GB discs can be removed from their caddy and used in DVD-ROM drives.

The other formats (+) are supported by the DVD+RW Alliance made up of:
Dell
Hewlett-Packard
Mitsubishi Chemical
Philips
Ricoh
Sony
Thomson SA
Yamaha Corp

The formats supported and manufactured/created by the DVD+RW Alliance are as follows:
DVD+R: can record up to 4.7 GB single-layered/single-sided DVD+R disc, at up to 16x speed. Like DVD-R you can record only once.
DVD+RW: can record up to 4.7 GB at up to 16x speed. Since it is rewritable it can be overwritten several times. It does not need special "pre-pits" or finalization to be played in a DVD player.
DVD+R DL: a derivate of DVD+R that uses dual-layer recordable discs to store up to 8.5 GB of data.

The compatibility can differ wildly depending on your burner, the discs you use and what you aim to play it in after burning. Generally though (from my experience) DVD+R are more compatible with DVD Players and Games consoles. Whereas if its for a PC then either will do.

Onto CD's. There is only one format of recordable CD and that is CD-R or CD-RW. There is no + as the CD was created by Sony and Philips and that is it. They then created the CD-WO (write once) which eventually evolved into the CD-R that we know today.

Anyway to summarise DVD+R's are probly best for whatever you need and CD-R's are the only recordable CD's you can get. Hope that answers your question.

**aznballa1992** · 07-23-2006, 07:33 AM

right lol

i just thought there WERE CD+/-

i'll edit my post

**Vanden** · 07-23-2006, 07:41 AM

dident know about that CD-WO (write once)

**twelve** · 07-23-2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cookie.

dident know about that CD-WO (write once)

If memory serves me correctly there was CD-WO which became CD-R. And CD-MO (magneto-optic) also called CD-E (Erasable) during its development which became CD-RW.

**Vanden** · 07-23-2006, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by chocomog

If memory serves me correctly there was CD-WO which became CD-R. And CD-MO (magneto-optic) also called CD-E (Erasable) during its development which became CD-RW.

wonder if anyone still has a cd-mo

*looks on ebay*

**aznballa1992** · 07-26-2006, 10:18 AM

whats the point of a CD-MO?

**twelve** · 07-26-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by aznballa1992

whats the point of a CD-MO?

It's the same as a CD-RW. Its reuseable.

**aznballa1992** · 08-01-2006, 11:56 AM

they dont sell CD-MOs

actually ive never seen advertisements on the weekly catalogs about CD-MOs...

**twelve** · 08-01-2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aznballa1992

they dont sell CD-MOs

actually ive never seen advertisements on the weekly catalogs about CD-MOs...

I know they don't if you actually read what I posted you would know that too.

CD-MO and CD-E were development prototypes leading up to the CD-RW.

Kinda like you can't buy a Nintendo Dolphin but you can buy a Nintendo Gamecube instead. (Dolphin was the name for gamecube while it was in development)

**iball®** · 08-01-2006, 12:07 PM

DVD-R is more reliable and compatible with DVD-ROM drives from all over.

**twelve** · 08-01-2006, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iball®

DVD-R is more reliable and compatible with DVD-ROM drives from all over.

Seriously? I'm not doubting your knowledge.

But my DVD's have been much more successful with +R's. Maybe its the discs or the burner being funny. I dunno.

**iball®** · 08-01-2006, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocomog

Seriously? I'm not doubting your knowledge.

But my DVD's have been much more successful with +R's. Maybe its the discs or the burner being funny. I dunno.

I burn a LOT of 'all-in-one' auto-install DVDs that contain Windows XP Pro, Office 2003, and a slew of government apps that are all used in literally hundreds of different computers with different DVD-ROM drives and the DVD-R format hasn't failed me yet.
If you're burning DVD+Rs and just using them in the same drive that burned them then of course you'll have no problems reading them.
Problem is, I have to worry about those machines out there that do NOT have DVD+R reading capability, especially on older machines.
That's why I go with DVD-R for maximum compatability across a wide range of platforms.

**twelve** · 08-01-2006, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iball®

I burn a LOT of 'all-in-one' auto-install DVDs that contain Windows XP Pro, Office 2003, and a slew of government apps that are all used in literally hundreds of different computers with different DVD-ROM drives and the DVD-R format hasn't failed me yet.
If you're burning DVD+Rs and just using them in the same drive that burned them then of course you'll have no problems reading them.
Problem is, I have to worry about those machines out there that do NOT have DVD+R reading capability, especially on older machines.
That's why I go with DVD-R for maximum compatability across a wide range of platforms.

I see. Disc images for users PCs I take it?

The +R's I burn are for my pc, my dads pc (same model drive) my ps2 and my dvd player. To be fair I've only made one coaster ever and that was a -R hence why I stick with +R.

**aznballa1992** · 08-02-2006, 07:23 AM

all i have are DVD-RWs, i never used DVD-Rs or DVD+Rs before

**wseyller** · 08-02-2006, 07:29 AM

It mainly comes down to what a particular DVD player is more compatible with. Some players like only - or some only like +, and some like both.

You can search through a database to see media compatibilty on this site: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers

This is good to use to figure out what type of disc would work better and it is good if you are purchasing a dvd player so you can see compatibilty before you buy.

**twelve** · 08-02-2006, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wseyller

It mainly comes down to what a particular DVD player is more compatible with. Some players like only - or some only like +, and some like both.

You can search through a database to see media compatibilty on this site: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers

This is good to use to figure out what type of disc would work better and it is good if you are purchasing a dvd player so you can see compatibilty before you buy.

<3 videohelp.com

one of my favourite sites.

**willolner** · 08-09-2006, 10:19 AM

just get a dvd +/- rw, not that much more expensive in my experience, and...you cant go wrong!

07-23-2006, 06:54 AM	#1
aznballa1992 Red Underwear Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 1,914 Trader Feedback: 0	what is the difference between DVD-R/DVD+R im not sure which one is better, more relaible, or what? __________________ 360 GT: aznWUsta Last edited by aznballa1992; 07-23-2006 at 07:33 AM..

07-23-2006, 07:33 AM	#4
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07-23-2006, 07:41 AM	#5
Vanden Join Date: Aug 2005 Real First Name: Vanden Location: Vandenland Just Played: Marval 1 Posts: 11,489 Trader Feedback: 0	dident know about that CD-WO (write once) __________________ You know where to find me.

07-26-2006, 10:18 AM	#8
aznballa1992 Red Underwear Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 1,914 Trader Feedback: 0	whats the point of a CD-MO? __________________ 360 GT: aznWUsta

08-01-2006, 11:56 AM	#10
aznballa1992 Red Underwear Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 1,914 Trader Feedback: 0	they dont sell CD-MOs actually ive never seen advertisements on the weekly catalogs about CD-MOs... __________________ 360 GT: aznWUsta

07-23-2006, 07:20 AM	#3
twelve Muffin Love n Lemon Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Phil Location: Surrey, UK Just Played: Why is this mandatory? Posts: 11,734 Trader Feedback: 0	There are basically 2 types of recordable DVD. + and - The DVD- are supported by the DVD Forum which was founded by: Hitachi Matsushita Mitsubishi Electric Pioneer Philips Sony Thomson Time Warner Inc. Toshiba JVC The formats supported and manufactured by the DVD Forum are as follows: DVD-R: can record up to 4.5 GB in a similar fashion to a CD-R disc. Once recorded and finalized it can be played by most DVD-ROM players. DVD-RW: can record up to 4.7 GB in a similar fashion to a CD-RW disc. DVD-R DL: a derivate of DVD-R that uses double-layer recordable discs to store up to 8.5 GB of data. DVD-RAM : requires a special unit to play 4.7GB or 9.4GB recorded discs (DVD-RAM disc are usually housed in a cartridge). 2.6GB discs can be removed from their caddy and used in DVD-ROM drives. The other formats (+) are supported by the DVD+RW Alliance made up of: Dell Hewlett-Packard Mitsubishi Chemical Philips Ricoh Sony Thomson SA Yamaha Corp The formats supported and manufactured/created by the DVD+RW Alliance are as follows: DVD+R: can record up to 4.7 GB single-layered/single-sided DVD+R disc, at up to 16x speed. Like DVD-R you can record only once. DVD+RW: can record up to 4.7 GB at up to 16x speed. Since it is rewritable it can be overwritten several times. It does not need special "pre-pits" or finalization to be played in a DVD player. DVD+R DL: a derivate of DVD+R that uses dual-layer recordable discs to store up to 8.5 GB of data. The compatibility can differ wildly depending on your burner, the discs you use and what you aim to play it in after burning. Generally though (from my experience) DVD+R are more compatible with DVD Players and Games consoles. Whereas if its for a PC then either will do. Onto CD's. There is only one format of recordable CD and that is CD-R or CD-RW. There is no + as the CD was created by Sony and Philips and that is it. They then created the CD-WO (write once) which eventually evolved into the CD-R that we know today. Anyway to summarise DVD+R's are probly best for whatever you need and CD-R's are the only recordable CD's you can get. Hope that answers your question.

08-01-2006, 12:07 PM	#12
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08-02-2006, 07:23 AM	#16
aznballa1992 Red Underwear Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 1,914 Trader Feedback: 0	all i have are DVD-RWs, i never used DVD-Rs or DVD+Rs before __________________ 360 GT: aznWUsta

08-02-2006, 07:29 AM	#17
wseyller Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 441 Trader Feedback: 0	It mainly comes down to what a particular DVD player is more compatible with. Some players like only - or some only like +, and some like both. You can search through a database to see media compatibilty on this site: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers This is good to use to figure out what type of disc would work better and it is good if you are purchasing a dvd player so you can see compatibilty before you buy.

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