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**Vanden** · 11-02-2006, 07:53 PM

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A Microsoft spokesperson has confirmed that the planned release dates for Vista and Office are indeed November 30 after all, fulfilling Microsoft’s promise of delivering Vista in 2006.

That said, the general consumer versions of Vista are still planned for a January 2007 release, with the rumoured date of January 30 said to be on the verge of confirmation over the next few days.

The November 30 date will be a worldwide release, meaning Australians, New Zealanders and other countries in the same time zone will be able to get access to the software several hours before our North American brethren.

Exchange Server 2007 is also scheduled to be released on the same day, giving businesses access to Microsoft’s latest email server and email client (Outlook 2007). The US press invitation made special note of the fact that it will be the first time in 10 years that new versions of Vista, Exchange and Office will be launched together.

Corporate customers wanting access to the software will be able to get it on November 30, as will system builders, technology journalists and other selected parties, although some technology journalists may get access to the ‘Gold RTM code’ slightly sooner for review purposes. If we are able to access it any earlier we’ll be bringing you a review as soon as we possibly can.

In the US, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer will be at the launch event, to be held at the Nasdaq Stock Market in midtown Manhattan and the Marriott Marquis in Times Square.

No details of the location of the Australian launch are yet available, but this will no doubt be detailed to the media soon and a flurry of activity will surround the launch.

Interestingly, an IDG News Service Report was quoted at a PC World article as saying that Canadians will be having a launch event on November 23, where the software may well be launched early.

An Australian Microsoft spokesperson said this was unlikely as the internal information indicated November 30 was THE launch date, so we’ll have to see on November 24 (which will still be November 23 in Canada) what happens.

So... the end of Vista’s beginning is nearly here. Now the fun will really start!

Source http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/6820/52/

**pavey** · 11-02-2006, 10:50 PM

lol I wouldn't buy that for at least a good 6 months

**iball®** · 11-02-2006, 10:59 PM

And the world yawned and went back to sleep.
Seriously though, don't expect wide-adoption of Vista, Exchange 2007, or Office 2007 anytime soon after release.
Hell, I'm beta-testing Exchange 2007 and Microsoft already told us that there won't be a PKI plug-in for it until SP1 is release sometime next year.
They also told us that IE 7 won't support the PKI plug-in in Exchange OWA 2003 until SP1 also released next year.
We pretty much told Microsoft: what the **** makes you think we'll buy ANY of this garbage then?
We got no reply.
That's literally a 1+ million licensing loss for Microsoft until they get off their asses and fix what's broken in Vista, Exchange 2007, and IE 7.

Josey Wales · 11-02-2006, 11:54 PM

November 30 - Windows Vista Release
December 7 - Windows Vista SP1 Release

Mark my words.

**iball®** · 11-02-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Josey Wales

November 30 - Windows Vista Release
December 7 - Windows Vista SP1 Release

Mark my words.

Nah, they will call it a "roll-up" first.

**Realn0whereman** · 11-03-2006, 05:04 AM

MS is going to try and force the update to vista upon ppl. this is why apple and linux users will rocket

Tommie · 11-03-2006, 05:31 AM

And DX10?

**twelve** · 11-03-2006, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BAWLS

MS is going to try and force the update to vista upon ppl. this is why apple and linux users will rocket

No they wont. People that are happy with XP will stay with XP. Much like sony try to force people to update, it just doesn't happen. MS are smarter than that, they wont try to force people to update. Take the wga notifications thing as an example. People with illegitimate copies of windows got the update and then complained so MS gave out instructions to remove it.

**Realn0whereman** · 11-03-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Maleficent

No they wont. People that are happy with XP will stay with XP. Much like sony try to force people to update, it just doesn't happen. MS are smarter than that, they wont try to force people to update. Take the wga notifications thing as an example. People with illegitimate copies of windows got the update and then complained so MS gave out instructions to remove it.

ok soon all the new games and apps will start requiring vista like ppl w. 98 started upgrading to xp cz of increased compatibilty

**Joey** · 11-03-2006, 08:44 AM

Microsoft isn't going to force you to upgrade? Dude, get off the crack pipe.

**Realn0whereman** · 11-03-2006, 08:48 AM

not directly.... like how sony pushes out demos that require the update

**PopeOfDope** · 11-03-2006, 09:34 AM

Microsoft = Sony.

Sony: Must upgrade to higher firmware to run new games
Microsoft: Must upgrade to Vista to play Halo 2.

But the key difference is that Windows XP has the functionality most people need. Only gamers would see a benefit from upgrading to Vista. With
a PSP, you get a larger increase in functionality (If you ignore homebrew) if you upgrade. In that respect they are different.

You are right in saying more people will start making Vista only apps, especially in regards to games since DX10 is not availible on XP. Supposedly it is impossible to get it to work on XP. However Sonys firmware upgrades offer no added functionality for game developers.

I don't understand why people are moaning. When XP is supposedly crap, people complain. When Microsoft releases a new OS to combat those problems, people complain about the lack of old OS support. Judging by the transition between windows XP and windows 98, it shouldn't be too bad, especially with the discounted upgrade options for those with a legit copy of XP. The only thing I would want is Microsoft to sell the OS in a family pack like OSX, where you get 5 lisences for a discount price. Also a student discount would be awesome too.

**Soulphalanx** · 11-03-2006, 10:01 AM

an xbox probably costs less than vista
so might as well play halo 2 on that

psp games, however, most arent that popular and are only available on the PSP

**Mast3r_Shak3** · 11-03-2006, 04:33 PM

Hell, an Xbox, Halo 2, and a year of Xbox live costs less than Vista.

**Access_Denied** · 11-03-2006, 04:54 PM

*cough* Vista Sucks *cough*

**PSPduh** · 11-03-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MaSt3r_ShAk3

Hell, an Xbox, Halo 2, and a year of Xbox live costs less than Vista.

Torrents FTW!

**El Diablo** · 11-03-2006, 05:01 PM

no it doesnt. i have the beta and i love vista. only thing is it takes up 30% of my RAM on idle...and i have 2 gigs of ram. thats ridiculous.

vista is great though. although the price...=\

**Access_Denied** · 11-03-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by neopspmaster 3

no it doesnt. i have the beta and i love vista. only thing is it takes up 30% of my RAM on idle...and i have 2 gigs of ram. thats ridiculous.

vista is great though. although the price...=\

Who would actually pay for Vista?

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11-03-2006, 08:48 AM	#11
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11-02-2006, 10:50 PM	#2
pavey Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 154 Trader Feedback: 0	lol I wouldn't buy that for at least a good 6 months

11-02-2006, 11:54 PM	#4
Josey Wales No longer a community member. Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Waianae Posts: 1,487 Trader Feedback: 0	November 30 - Windows Vista Release December 7 - Windows Vista SP1 Release Mark my words.

11-03-2006, 05:31 AM	#7
Tommie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 42 Trader Feedback: 0	And DX10?

11-03-2006, 09:34 AM	#12
PopeOfDope DopaMean Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 3,739 Trader Feedback: 0	Microsoft = Sony. Sony: Must upgrade to higher firmware to run new games Microsoft: Must upgrade to Vista to play Halo 2. But the key difference is that Windows XP has the functionality most people need. Only gamers would see a benefit from upgrading to Vista. With a PSP, you get a larger increase in functionality (If you ignore homebrew) if you upgrade. In that respect they are different. You are right in saying more people will start making Vista only apps, especially in regards to games since DX10 is not availible on XP. Supposedly it is impossible to get it to work on XP. However Sonys firmware upgrades offer no added functionality for game developers. I don't understand why people are moaning. When XP is supposedly crap, people complain. When Microsoft releases a new OS to combat those problems, people complain about the lack of old OS support. Judging by the transition between windows XP and windows 98, it shouldn't be too bad, especially with the discounted upgrade options for those with a legit copy of XP. The only thing I would want is Microsoft to sell the OS in a family pack like OSX, where you get 5 lisences for a discount price. Also a student discount would be awesome too.

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It’s official: Vista and Office 2007 to launch November 30