very well put Freeplay...
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This is a discussion on Barack Obama or John McCain? within the General Off Topic+ forums, part of the QJ.net Forum Miscellaneous category; hahaha lol very well put Freeplay......
very well put Freeplay...
Last edited by Adiuvo; 08-05-2008 at 08:56 PM. Reason: Edited for readability...
Bob Barr ftmfw.
Whoever's a friend of the man who turned our country into a ****hole is never. Ever. Winning.
Barack Obama -> Take the troops out and get our asses bombed because people actually believe other people will leave everyone alone if we don't do anything, because the common misconception is that people don't get power hungry. Increase taxes, a big no-no. Try to divert from natural gas, our cheapest least harmful source of energy besides nuclear(**** the media). Biomass creates more CO2, among creating acid rain. Hydroelectric ruins water ecosystems and often completely screws over land that depends on the river/lake. Windmills cost relatively 8 million(or billion I can't remember) dollars to replace, and need to be replaced once every 10ish years. Natural Gas is still the cheapest
John McCain -> Keep the gas, stay in the places that hate us, overall, a better candidate.
We wont be getting bombed.
Afghanistan is the country that has a link to terrorism and that's where he supports the war happening.
Iraq as far as I know just had Saddam living there, there were no weapons of mass destruction that Bush said there were.
Plus McCain most likely wont live to fulfill his presidency.
We need to increase taxes or else we wont be getting out of national debt.
We're in the national debt(no offense to anyone) because of the problem in the southwestern states. Iraq is a very good vantage point against afghanistan and iran, which are the real threats.
What problems in the southwest states are you talking about?
What? So you're saying we stay in a country that is not a threat to us, and stay out of the places that ARE threatening us? We're spending billions staying in a place between the places that are the threats. We're the ones who have to pay for it. The gas prices went straight up because a stupid little man made one of the biggest mistakes for the US. I'm not interested in spending money because people are walking around with weapons in a country no threat to us.
This is basically the what went on: We get a terrorist attack from Afghanistan. We then find out a dictator from Iraq isn't giving us gas. So we invade Country B. And we execute the guy ruling Iraq. And then we stay there. And stay there. And stay there. And our money is being burned by billions every day. See what's going on?
And what problem in the southwest? I live here, nothing's wrong.
I'm getting way overworked on this, but, honestly, we as a country, need to recognize the fact that problem is not coming from bush(at least not the latter of it). I liked huckabee's plan to make ONE flat national sales tax, so everyone pays their taxes. That right there would solve the problem, because everyone would be paying taxes, thus more national income. Unfortunately due to politics he couldn't say it like that, but meh.
@xploren I was referring to less people paying taxes than not.
The Middle East is full of terrorists. But that doesn't mean we need to stay in just ONE country in that region. If we see a need to "protect our country", we should be in the countries that we know might hurt us. Imagine what we could've done with all the money that went into Iraq.
In my opinion, Bush is giving a big middle-finger to the people who perished in the 9/11 attacks. We could've invaded the country that attacked us and get the person responsible, but no, we decided to go to a different country, execute a dictator, and then stay there for the hell of it.
One day I'm going to move somewhere else, if there is ever a draft, or another cold war, I expect to do so. I'm too conservative for america .
If anything I'm moving to Canada for health care.
Their healthcare(from what I've heard from people who live there) is **** quality. I could very well be wrong. If there is another cold war..canada would not be my target..probably somewhere like germany or ireland. If there was a draft, canada for sure.
IDK, I just saw SiCKO and it seemed like Canada was a good choice.
Even France was alright, oh Cuba was good too, don't forget Guantanamo bay.
I'd probably vote Obama, but I'm from the UK. Just because of the press I've seen of him is more positive.
The man finished 894th out of his college class of 899. He constantly shows ignorance in significant ways... for example, thinking Iraq and Pakistan bordered each other, not knowing the Sunnis and Shiites have ever been violent with each other, acting as if he thinks the USA should attack Russia to defend Georgia (because, you know, diplomacy never works)...
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I'd vote for Obama.
I'm not saying i have a good reason...I'd just vote for him.
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i think majority of this forums would say obama, with legit or non legit reasons just because he is they type of person we would want up there. Not for political reasons just because of physical and superficial ideas.
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Yea I agree with Deturbanator...
Has anyone seen the "Make John McCain interesting" contest on the Colbert report. I think that about sums my views on John McCain. I'm just going with the lesser of 2 evils.