Barack Obama or John McCain?

sorry couldnt add poll
had football pracitce

Woop.
Now for today in history class we are going to talk a full 90 minutes about the elections.
Oh shi-

Anyway,
I'm happy Obama won.

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Zitat von Savagefreak

Woop.
Now for today in history class we are going to talk a full 90 minutes about the elections.
Oh shi-

Anyway,
I'm happy Obama won.

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I'm havinmg the best solo party of my life because of it

We had a mock election at my school yesterday and Obama ended up winning by 93%. Then today when Obama won everyone was cheering and so greatful that he did. So I asked some people why they were so happy and they told me that Obama would change america. then when I asked how he planned to do that, not a single person could tell me what he planned to change. it seems to me like everyone got on this change bandwagon but really have no idea what they were talking about. but thats just me

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Zitat von NoEffex

He doesn't HAVE arguments. Everything is about saying how my sources are illegitimate.

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When all you quote is the most conservative media sources on the planet, yes, they're illegitimate.

Yes, MSNBC has a few extremely liberal talking heads. The difference between MSNBC and Fox News is that EVERYONE on Fox News is a conservative talking head, and they've even been told what to say by the Bush white house.

If you can't find a more moderate source (e.g. CNN) then your sources aren't legitimate.

It's funny that reality seems to have a liberal bias ;)

Anyways, shouldn't you be filling out a Canadian immigration form?

Lol my government teacher had us watch obama's entire victory speech today. The mccain people sure weren't too happy...

I watched Zeitgeist movie recently...
This whole election thing and the media brainwashing people..
makes me wonder...what's going to happen?

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...bamawinnar.png

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Quite honestly the people who have any conservative beliefs end up being driven away because of the fact arguing with FreePlay is like arguing with a donkey, so, the poll would end up being Obama.

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That's cause your arguments suck. Just like the crap the McCain campaign put out there. You barely talked about why you should vote for McCain, but rather focused on the topic of why Obama isn't fit to lead with examples such as, "he supports abortion, people who support abortion are disgusting murderers" and "The Koran says lying is okay", meaning that you somehow think Obama is a muslim and that somehow relates to him being a terrorist. All of that is garbage.

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Lol my government teacher had us watch obama's entire victory speech today. The mccain people sure weren't too happy...

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Your teacher even show McCain's speech? Because that was honestly a good one too..but watching Obama just makes you go wow....we can do something.

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I watched Zeitgeist movie recently...
This whole election thing and the media brainwashing people..
makes me wonder...what's going to happen?

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the only brainwashing is zeitgeist itself

its total crap

all 3 segments
with the only remotely factual one being the 9/11 one, and he only points out **** people before had said there

first segment is a rip off of a book thomas paine wrote in the 1790's called the age of reason most of it has been disproven, what hasn't been disproven captain zeitgeist made up, or misquoted.

last segment is extremely far reaching

yes all money is on loan to you
but were not enslaved by that loan
besides
the nature of government is slavery to begin with

read some orwell fiction, it contains more facts than zeitgeist does


back on topic we watched both speeches

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Zitat von shortboy

Your teacher even show McCain's speech? Because that was honestly a good one too..but watching Obama just makes you go wow....we can do something.

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McCain made a very classy speech. It was classy enough to the point where the people at the Obama rally cheered for it. What disturbed me was the fact that the crowd at the McCain rally started booing when McCain just mentioned Obama. I think people need to have more self control than that. I know losing an election is no fun, I've seen the democrats lose two elections in my lifetime, but don't be a sore loser. To boo the winning candidate during a speech on nation television just shows the lack of class for those that attended the McCain rally. McCain shouldn't of needed to quiet the crowd down 5 times, they should know better.

Looking at the differences between the two speeches, McCain's speech felt redundant at times, I felt it should of ended 5 minutes earlier. Regardless, the content was very good. It showed great sportsmanship. As for the presentation of the speech, it's not as good as Obama's. Obama emphasizes his important words and alters the speed of his speech depending on how important that part of the speech is. It seems like McCain just has one tone and goes with it. Also, what really captured me was the 106 year old lady from Georgia part of the speech. It really showed me that things can change no matter how absurd it may seem. People 50 years ago, let alone 100 years ago would of never dreamed of the day where there would be a black president. But that 106 year old woman saw it all (even the Cubs' last World Series championship xD) and she was able to witness that change. It just goes to show that any change is possible as long as we try. And Obama hit it right on the head when he said that change might take a long time to come forth, and it will. There won't be drastic changes right away, he's not going to be FDR. However, what he can do is lay the foundations of change. Like he said, it might take a year, two years, or even a whole term, but what matters is that we need to start to change. And yesterday's election is evidence that change is possible and that we can all accept it.

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with the only remotely factual one being the 9/11 one, and he only points out **** people before had said there

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No, actually that's the least factual section of all...

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No, actually that's the least factual section of all...

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they said the photos of the pentagon didn't have plane parts

only went for in the whole thing.

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He doesn't HAVE arguments. Everything is about saying how my sources are illegitimate.

I don't even give a **** anymore, I'm tired of arguing with idiots, you'll see that Obama is a dirtbag (and NO, that's not a racist remark, I was referring to lair and a HUGE hypocrite.) and will bring no good to this country. It is then I will bump this thread from the middle of ****ing nowhere and will say "HAHA! I WAS RIGHT!".

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Now calling butthurt to the HIGHEST degree. Go fill out your papers for Canada, because Obama is here to stay.

Like I said, please dear god don't come here. You aren't welcome.
Go to Iceland or something.

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McCain made a very classy speech. It was classy enough to the point where the people at the Obama rally cheered for it. What disturbed me was the fact that the crowd at the McCain rally started booing when McCain just mentioned Obama. I think people need to have more self control than that. I know losing an election is no fun, I've seen the democrats lose two elections in my lifetime, but don't be a sore loser. To boo the winning candidate during a speech on nation television just shows the lack of class for those that attended the McCain rally. McCain shouldn't of needed to quiet the crowd down 5 times, they should know better.

Looking at the differences between the two speeches, McCain's speech felt redundant at times, I felt it should of ended 5 minutes earlier. Regardless, the content was very good. It showed great sportsmanship. As for the presentation of the speech, it's not as good as Obama's. Obama emphasizes his important words and alters the speed of his speech depending on how important that part of the speech is. It seems like McCain just has one tone and goes with it. Also, what really captured me was the 106 year old lady from Georgia part of the speech. It really showed me that things can change no matter how absurd it may seem. People 50 years ago, let alone 100 years ago would of never dreamed of the day where there would be a black president. But that 106 year old woman saw it all (even the Cubs' last World Series championship xD) and she was able to witness that change. It just goes to show that any change is possible as long as we try. And Obama hit it right on the head when he said that change might take a long time to come forth, and it will. There won't be drastic changes right away, he's not going to be FDR. However, what he can do is lay the foundations of change. Like he said, it might take a year, two years, or even a whole term, but what matters is that we need to start to change. And yesterday's election is evidence that change is possible and that we can all accept it.

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Alot of McCain supporters are sore losers.
Its stupid that they were booing at the mention of Obama.

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Alot of McCain supporters are sore losers.
Its stupid that they were booing at the mention of Obama.

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I'm pretty sure the losing supporters always do that...

Now I'm in a Facebook argument with some stupid freshman who keeps claiming that her family will be heavily taxed when they clearly do not have a high enough income for Obama's plan to take effect.

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Your teacher even show McCain's speech? Because that was honestly a good one too..but watching Obama just makes you go wow....we can do something.

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YES WE CAN! Sorry I'm not american but had to write that after Obama's speech :P.

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Now I'm in a Facebook argument with some stupid freshman who keeps claiming that her family will be heavily taxed when they clearly do not have a high enough income for Obama's plan to take effect.

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See what Obama has to put up with. I feel sorry for stupid people.

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Now I'm in a Facebook argument with some stupid freshman who keeps claiming that her family will be heavily taxed when they clearly do not have a high enough income for Obama's plan to take effect.

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That's exactly what my cousin who lives in Indiana thinks...Ignorance.. *shakes head*

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Now I'm in a Facebook argument.

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I would post the Special Olympics picture, but I think it would actually be redundant.

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Now I'm in a Facebook argument with some stupid freshman who keeps claiming that her family will be heavily taxed when they clearly do not have a high enough income for Obama's plan to take effect.

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Have you specifically told this person that you have to make a certain amount to have that tax effect?

If you already spoon fed it to her, then she is beyond help.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_141653.html

One final "Palin is a ****ing idiot" proof:

she didn't know Africa was a continent, not country.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_141653.html

also, to quote that article "not only did she not understand that Africa was a continent rather than a single country but also that during debate prep Palin was unable to name all the nations in North America."


Edit: whoops. missed slasher's post above me.

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I'm pretty sure the losing supporters always do that...

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When McCain is congratulating Obama, his supporters were booing and shouting out stuff. Honestly that's just rude.

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When McCain is congratulating Obama, his supporters were booing and shouting out stuff. Honestly that's just rude.

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Don't you just love America?

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When McCain is congratulating Obama, his supporters were booing and shouting out stuff. Honestly that's just rude.

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And I'm saying it's not just McCain supporters that do that...

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And I'm saying it's not just McCain supporters that do that...

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Yeah, I really think that either way the same would've happened, it's just that some people are like that and can't show honor.

A White Sox fan in the White House. That puts the cherry on the sundae for me.

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Have you specifically told this person that you have to make a certain amount to have that tax effect?

If you already spoon fed it to her, then she is beyond help.

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I have told her that, like 10 times, but she then switches to subject to why she thinks it is wrong to give money to the poor. I've just given up and resorted to posting Obama's victory speech all over her wall.

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I have told her that, like 10 times, but she then switches to subject to why she thinks it is wrong to give money to the poor. I've just given up and resorted to posting Obama's victory speech all over her wall.

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Yeah. Let's all be ferocious human beings and forget that poor people are indeed people. Meanwhile, we'll go buy big yachts and jets so we can enjoy our life to the fullest extent while poor people (who supposedly aren't even people) can't find a home or get their sickness taken care of. Aren't we all great humanitarians?

Yes we can.
Yes we did.
Yes we will.

And yes, I thought McCain's concession speech was incredibly ingratiating and statesmanlike. I hope he keeps his promise of doing his best to help President Obama (:)) lead wisely.

First and foremost... what's your super-secret plan for catching Osama?

Same for Palin, she was just as honorable as McCain. But anyway, I can't wait until January..Gonna go to the inauguration with my sister and some friends!

Palin was not as honorable as McCain, are you joking? She kept on making references to Obama and terrorism after they lost the election.

And the RNC had to send lawyers to Alaska to take back the clothes she was "donating to charity" under threat of a lawsuit because she had no intention of parting with them.

Well, I just saw a clip on the news about her talking about him getting elected..She was positive about it at that moment in time. And yeah, I've seen all the bs she said about him "palling around with terrorists" and such, and it makes me happy they lost the election being the liars that they were.

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Palin was not as honorable as McCain, are you joking? She kept on making references to Obama and terrorism after they lost the election.
And the RNC had to send lawyers to Alaska to take back the clothes she was "donating to charity" under threat of a lawsuit because she had no intention of parting with them.

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Is there by any chance a video of this somewhere?
I'd love to see it :tup:

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Palin was not as honorable as McCain, are you joking? She kept on making references to Obama and terrorism after they lost the election.

And the RNC had to send lawyers to Alaska to take back the clothes she was "donating to charity" under threat of a lawsuit because she had no intention of parting with them.

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Yeah I wanna see this video to!!!

I am glad obama won... and if Mccain won I would only fear having a stupid VP.

Oh, and please post that video of Palin.

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I am glad obama won... and if Mccain won I would only fear having a stupid VP.

Oh, and please post that video of Palin.

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Agreed.
mccains pretty old so she defenately would have become the prez.

I wouldve killed my self.

And obviously she doesnt care if you say racist comments at her rallies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9T0FI2axbU

She didnt even know africa was a continent and can see russia from her house.

I thought in cpo of the election finally over that ide post a funny youtube vid for memory purposes
sooooo

and one more

they say thats actually obama but idk.