MD Party Room - Chat

[KKlicK]

Stealing WiFi is against the law.

Please stop with your illicit actions.

[kibbles]

Stealing WiFi is against the law.

Please stop with your illicit actions.

actually its not against the law. supposible its only against the law if u hack into there system or over use there bandwidth or sumthing like that

[KKlicK]

actually its not against the law. it was on the news a while ago. ill find a article on it.

No.

It breaks several forms of international law. Fact.

[Moose]

actually its not against the law. it was on the news a while ago. ill find a article on it.

It is, T.V. says so :)

[kibbles]

its not unless u do aumthing illegal on it. there was a big thing on the news about it. im not gona agrue about it.

[Moose]

its not unless u do aumthing illegal on it. there was a big thing on the news about it. im not gona agrue about it.

I'm pretty sure it is. You're using someone else's paid connection, for free. I don;'t need to tell you that it already sounds illegal.

[kibbles]

The legality of stealing your neighbor's connection is murky at best.

"All of this stuff is so new, it's hard to say what the liability issues are," said Robert Hale, a San Francisco-based attorney who recently published an academic paper on the subject.

Hale points out that there is a federal law on the books that ostensibly prohibits using someone's access point with out their permission. But "without permission" is vaguely defined and the law seems more geared towards computer hacking.

It seems pretty clear that if you hack your neighbor's password then it could be reasonably argued you didn't have authorization.

But securing many older wireless systems with a password is difficult and even newer ones can be a challenge if you're running multiple computers or multiple operating systems. And, while it may be a violation of the user agreements with Internet service providers, some community-minded users deliberately leave their connections open for others to borrow.

"It's a gray area," said Paul Stamp, an analyst at the technology consultants Forester Research. "By not restricting access it could be argued that you're implicitly making that available."

"A broad statement concerning the access of unprotected wireless networks as being always legal or illegal simply can't be made," said Jackie Lesch, a spokeswoman for the Department of Justice. "It's just kind of dicey."

On a federal level, according to Lesch, prosecuting decisions are made on a case to case basis, mostly depending on the type of system accessed and what it was accessed for.

On the state level it could be more clear. "It's unlawful access", said John Geraty, an officer with the Internet crimes against children unit of the San Francisco Police Department.

According to Geraty, using your neighbor's wireless is specifically prohibited in the California penal code. "It's not yours and you're taking it," he says.

But Geraty said his department doesn't deal with that type of crime specifically and an officer at the department's fraud desk -- whose jurisdiction it would fall under -- said she couldn't recall anyone ever being arrested for it.

Experts do agree that the likelihood of getting caught and prosecuted for stealing a wireless connection probably depends on how often you do it and how you're using it.

"The damages are really the big issue," said Hale. "Are you just poking around, checking your e-mail, or are you doing it on a regular basis and affecting this person's bandwidth?"

Location also seems to play a part.

"If you're in a Manhattan building with 30 apartments that's one thing," said Julie Ask, research director at the technology consultants Jupiter Research. "But if you're the guy who parks your car in front of a suburban house in the middle of the night and you've got the screen from your laptop glowing, well..." speaking of a man who was arrested earlier this month in Florida for just that.

idk

[SpiderJames]

o cmon, I used to use my laptop from my neighbors wireless internet alot, it may be ilegel, it jsut depends on who you do it with (my neighbors moved in from africa, didnt kno any english, and I still dont know if they do)

[kibbles]

it really depends on how u look at it. it using starbucks wifi illegel?

[KKlicK]

o cmon, I used to use my laptop from my neighbors wireless internet alot, it may be ilegel, it jsut depends on who you do it with (my neighbors moved in from africa, didnt kno any english, and I still dont know if they do)

You have the stupidest avatar I've seen in a long time.

[SpiderJames]

You have the stupidest avatar I've seen in a long time.

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[Eranmane]

SET UP A APACHE SERVERT!1!!!
Pl0x.

lol...


tried
failed
retried
also fail
retried
once again, failed.

Think I know how to get it working. But I'm in a state where my internet is somewhat slower than it used to be, I'll have to check that up before I set it up.

[EriCKY]

Who here has a drug problem and is talking to me on irc?

[kibbles]

Who here has a drug problem and is talking to me on irc?

LOL thats hilarious!

[-chw42-]

Ya, AOL sucks.
But im talking about wireless...;)

Hey That's what I do too .

[gmansixfo]

Fill the quota.

[Sonoe]

Lairynessssssssssssssssss sssss

[gmansixfo]

STR DAE000ES ftw.

[KKlicK]

STR DAE000ES ftw.

What are them?

[gmansixfo]

What are them?

I'll never tell.

[KKlicK]

I'll never tell.

[Nero]

they see me rollin.....

[KKlicK]

they see me rollin.....

And?

[At∀RaҖiA]

And?

They're jizzing in your soda.

[KKlicK]

They're jizzing in your soda.

Hey there superstar. Haven't seen you around these parts in a long time.

[Nero]

im boreddddd

[At∀RaҖiA]

Hey there superstar. Haven't seen you around these parts in a long time.

I kinda left qj, but then the crunchy c*nt club. stopped working, so now I'm back.

[Chathurga]

Got a 360 :D

[BBundy]

I kinda left qj, but then the crunchy c*nt club. stopped working, so now I'm back.

It works, just not active.

[Synyster gates]

You have about 2 minutes to tell me where the **** you put the ps3 controller.