why and how come no species should ever metel with time

[thebeatmonkey]

oh dear.. where do i begin

first of all i did read you whole post (yes, in its unstuctured entirety), and im starting to wish i hadn't.

now then i said could

i know you said could.. and im arguing that it couldn't
i can't be assed to type out my reasoning again so i'll quote.

If you could freeze yourself in time and then move back (staying the same age), how could you change something that stopped your existance? If you stopped your existance you wouldn't exist to go back in time to stop your existance anyway!!

this leads me to believe that maybe you didn't read my post, or maybe you just can't understand.

you could also change your own fate when/if you meet yourself

and how do you propose you'll meet yourself, theres only one you time.
maybe then you could speculate with your obsurd logic that if time travel is possible then so is cloning.
Go back in time, meet yourself, say "hi, you wanna come back in time with yourself and meet yourself".
"yeah, sure i'll go back in time and meet myself"

tell yourself what well happen based on what well happen

i thought you said if you went back in time you could drastically change what would happen.. so wouldn't 'present you' telling the 'past you' whats going to happen affect whats going to happen.

also as for that last paragraph if you had actual read you may notice it's a good point which it's fairly evident you didn't

i really did ^.^ , the reason i "WTF'ed" it is because it complete drivel.
i understand what you mean now.. after reading it through again.. but the fact that you made some overly long complicated space adventure out of it makes it hard for anyone to understand.
You could have said:

Man A meets Man B
Man B introduces Man A to Man C
If Man B didn't exist
Man A may never have met Man C

[SG57]

true freeplay true but i've never been to good at creating long posts that are readable

Nor any other length of post with that grammar ;)

My idea of time travel to the past is that everyone BUT you age slowly. As in, you go in a worm hole for 50 years, come out and only 5 years have gone by. I can't really see how that'd happen however.

I can't believe in traveling to the past your method because your acting as if the past were a whole new universe, and matter can't be created, so matter would have to form in the other universe for you to be there, which doesn't happen.

[Tsubi]

Well to be quite frank, time travel will probably never happen. The implications of every action you partake in are crazy. For example, you went back in time and just by sheer chance you killed a rat. That rat may have been one of the select few that were immune to some sort of rat poison. Just by killing that rat, you may have eliminated a whole breed of naturally selected rats, who may have been living in a shop. By not killing the rat, he would have breaded and just by sheer luck sent a shop out of business. Things like that will happen, I guarantee you. Even though what I have just described required preposterous amount of luck, it may happen.

[slicer4ever]

@AdjutantReflex

that may hold true (matter can not be created nor destroyed) however how do you explain the expansion of the universe without new matter being created and if it is caring matter than it destroys the idea that matter can not move faster than light

[thebeatmonkey]

however how do you explain the expansion of the universe

lol I don't think theres anyone on this planet that knows the answer to that, let alone this message board. :ROFL:

Correct me if if wrong, but I thought the universe was mostly made up of space/void. So I assumed it was this void that was expanding, and as such, no matter created or destroyed.

[FreePlay]

Matter and energy most certainly can be created and destroyed. It's just the net *energy level* of a system that has to remain the same. Most matter contains positive-signed energy, while the traditional 'energy' that we talk about is negative-signed. Add a proper amount of each and the net energy level stays the same - approximately zero, apparently.

It happens all the time actually; look up 'virtual particles' on Wikipedia.

[slicer4ever]

@the beat monkey how do u explain new galaxies/stars/etc being created way out there so obviously it has to be creating matter/destroying it somehow

@freeplay so then how come many say that matter/energy can not be created nor destroyed thats where i got the idea from anyways if the net has to stay the same than is it basically, in larger terms star is destroyed and at the same time a star is born of the same mass to ensure the net diffrence stays the same

[FreePlay]

@freeplay so then how come many say that matter/energy can not be created nor destroyed thats where i got the idea from anyways if the net has to stay the same than is it basically, in larger terms star is destroyed and at the same time a star is born of the same mass to ensure the net diffrence stays the same

People say that because of a misinterpretation of the laws of thermodynamics. Check them out yourself; there's nothing about matter and energy being permanent.

As for the 'destruction' thing... you're talking about the wrong kind of destruction. When a star is 'destroyed,' its matter and energy still exist. You'd have to remove the star from the universe completely to be able to add another of the same mass and energy.

[slicer4ever]

well i was kinda going for that as the example when i was saying destroyed anyways thanks for the clarification