ESP, sixth sense, telepathy, etc: is it real?

[GinoD]

I've always loved empirical data. I live by facts - always want things black and white. Probably explains why I'm such a Mythbusters fan... But anyways. A guilty pleasure of mine is the subject of ESP. Extra sensory perception, sixth sense, mind reading, telepathy, etc etc etc. Lots of things about ESP out there - and quite frankly, I find it fascinating.

People have already put it under a pseudo-science, but there's still that part of me that says that maybe there's really something more to ESP than "unfounded data" or "inconclusive evidences".

Just want to hear your thoughts on the matter.

I remember reading this book once. It talked about this tribe somewhere out in the plains. Y'know those kinds of tribes that supposedly have gotten very minimal contact with the outside world and all? Yeah, this tribe is something like that.

Researchers studying the tribe discovered that when the men of the tribe were to go away for weeks and weeks to hunt game, the women and children were left at home. Weird thing is, this tribe hardly ever uses words to communicate. Hardly used gestures even. But since their vocal skills for communication aren't developed, it's been presupposed that they've developed other forms of communication. Yes, ESP. (so they say)

Apparently, the wives of the hunters could tell when the group of hunters would come back home. Telepathy it seems. They could tell of the homecoming for days in advance, at which they will prepare a homecoming feast. They could even tell if someone in the hunters' group died during the hunts. That would prompt a funeral service when they got home. And the wives knew about it even before they came back. Cool eh?

Of course, it could be all mumbojumbo. And I'm sure this is something that fits under Mythbusters' "oogie-boogie myths" LOL. I just can't help but think, yknow. I don't fully believe ESP is real... but I just can't wholly deny that it exists either. *shrug*

[IsaacC]

I'm not against the idea of telepathy and stuff like that. But it's like the idea of god. I'd want to see the Red Sea part before I believe that s/he exists, and then I'd want to investigate whether the sea parted by some miracle or by some freak accident. Even then, I'd still be skeptical.

So this idea of a tribe getting ESP? Who knows. But communication doesn't have to go through words or gestures; it can be forces of habit. If the tribe's been in solitude for a long time, they've probably already mastered each other's habits enough that they don't need to express in words what they want. Like if I always feed my dog at 7pm, the dog will eventually catch on.

As for the homecoming thing, there could be a number of explanations as well. The wives could know the specific type of weather that would force their husbands to come home, or they could know whether the season is good for hunting so they could approximate a time when they'll be back. As for the death part well... expect the worst so you won't be disappointed? lol

[GinoD]

I'm not against the idea of telepathy and stuff like that. But it's like the idea of god. I'd want to see the Red Sea part before I believe that s/he exists, and then I'd want to investigate whether the sea parted by some miracle or by some freak accident. Even then, I'd still be skeptical.

Oh no you didn't! Maaaaaan. Bringing in the G-man into scientific discussion is like soooo 1980s.

Anyways. Fine. Here we go....

There's evidence to suggest that during Moses' time, his path through the Red Sea was via a sand bar. There was no parting of the red sea. The most likely thing that happened was that it was high tide when they got to the shore. And eventually, when it because lowtide, they saw the sand bar and crossed to the other side.

source: some NatGeo episode from before

Same thing when Jesus was "walking on water." It was a sandbar. And there's reason to suggest that things got lost in translation when it eventually became a biblical standard to have Jesus "walking on water." Originally, it was supposed to have been "walking beside water" (on a sand bar).

source: some bible's footnotes. not sure which bible.

[IsaacC]

well then there you go, god's just a sandbar ;)

[CFPSP]

A uk science magazine stated that TELEPATHY was real and part of evolution, the mythbusters team make mistakes ,that program is done for fun

[IsaacC]

A uk science magazine stated that TELEPATHY was real and part of evolution, the mythbusters team make mistakes ,that program is done for fun

Really? Interesting. I'd like to read this mag.

[slicer4ever]

the mythbusters team make mistakes ,that program is done for fun

i would not say that, they prove more than many people have even attempted, at least their doing the fundamental of science, and providing it in an easy to understand way than what many have done over the last several centuries

[CFPSP]

Really? Interesting. I'd like to read this mag.

i'll have a look for the article and post back when i've found it, also does anyone know why i get a 404 error not allowed to access this from this server,when searhing through the forum search bar

[GinoD]

i'll have a look for the article and post back when i've found it, also does anyone know why i get a 404 error not allowed to access this from this server,when searhing through the forum search bar

Not sure about that 404 error thing, but hey! Cool. I'd definitely want to read about that telepathy thing. They actually have sound evidence that it's real?

I mean, scientists can always give theories about evolution and all - and telepathy being part of it isn't all that farfetched. But question is... is there hard-backed evidence and actual genetic data that suggests this? DNA strings? Neuron and nerve structures in the brain?

Oh, and about the Mythbusters thing... I enjoy the show. They make mistakes and whatnot. That's fine with me. Everyone makes mistakes all the time. (and oh, as if actual scientists themselves have never made mistakes in the whole of history....) Mythbusters never really boasted that they're the end-all of all science and engineering shows anyways. Mistakes are part of the show, and sometimes they're what make the episodes fun.

[Fzero]

They probably just had mobile phones and text messaged each others.

[GlennM]

have you guys seen Fringe?

i'm not too sure about the research that went into the show, but i find it fascinating.. if this sort of thing interests you, you guys should try watching it..

[unik999]

ESP:_ Perception that involves awareness of information about something (such as a person or event) not gained through the senses and not deducible from previous experience. Classic forms of ESP include telepathy, clairvoyance, and precognition. No conclusive demonstrations of the existence of ESP in any individual have been given, but popular belief in the phenomenon remains widespread, and people who claim to possess ESP are sometimes employed by investigative teams searching for missing persons or things.



What is Telepathy ?

Telepathy is the direct transference of thought from one person (sender) to another person (receiver) without using normal sensory channels.
The ability to communicate on another level than verbal and written - you communicate using only your mind. It's sending and receiving thoughts.
transfer of physical, emotional or mental energy,and or a combination of these energies, from one living being to another without physical contact.
Telepathy is instinctual. Primitive species used it as a survival mechanism. It involves mind to mind contact

communication - beyond the use of the five physical senses - sight, hearing, touch, taste, smell.

Types of Telepathy:_

1)physical telepathy
2)emotional telepathy
3)mental telepathy

o learn telepathy one needs to indentify the type most suitable to ones own abilities

How to develop Telepathy:_

everybody has latent telepathic abilities and it is a matter of remembering and accessing those
to lean telepathy try and practice telepathic exercises
it is important to know how to clear your mind, how to center yourself and how to concentrate on being in the moment
meditation techniques can help to focus one's presence

[bla¢k]

on a purely human level, if you believe in it and it doesn't conflict with your other beliefs, it's real. to you atleast

[Valiant]

All very interesting.