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What was there before the universe?

This is a discussion on What was there before the universe? within the General Science Discussion forums, part of the Science Forums category; I was watching this documentary on the big bang and they said: That all matter that we see today was ...

  
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    I was watching this documentary on the big bang and they said:

    That all matter that we see today was condensed into an atomic size of a H atom. And that all force were also binded together, keeping the matter together.

    These foces included: nuclear (weak/strong), heat, gravity, electrostatics, magnetism. And gravity split off from the rest and caused the big bang...



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    Zitat Zitat von PopeOfDope
    Another universe.

    The universe is currently expanding, but at some point it won't have enough energy to keep on expanding. When the (mass x energy) levels reach a certain threshold, the universe will start to contract. When it reaches the origin of the Big Bang, the collision of everything will create a new big bang and the universe is recreated.

    Exactly, there was a different universe before this one which contracted into a little dot and then exploded.

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    Dont we have some type of multiverse theory/hypotheses and in that dont each of these universes over lap each other.


    Also once read that contracting universe theory/hypotheses that we have a similar spacetime with our expanding universe as the one before the big bang... Then universe collapsed and then "bounced" as the Big Bang.


    In the end untill some better Race comes and explains it to us we may never have anything more than theory/hypotheses...


    But one thing that has always bothered me is that how do we get these data than a star burns out in 20 billion years but we havent even been around for less than a 8,000 years....Also I really dont trust carbon dating...I think that is just some bull and there is no teacher or book that can prove to me other wise...
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    We've been around about 200,000 years.
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    Zitat Zitat von Knifey-Spoony
    Also I really dont trust carbon dating...I think that is just some bull and there is no teacher or book that can prove to me other wise...
    So there's no such thing as a half-life or a radioisotope?

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    Zitat Zitat von illegal machine Beitrag anzeigen
    the real answer.


    The universe is constantly in motion, accelerating outwards seemingly infinitly. when alll the kinetic energy in the universe has been spent, then all the mass and matter in the now non moving universe will hang motionless for a moment, then gradualy make it's way back into itself. when this happens the enourmous pressure will cause a breakdown of all matter to a subatomic level. which will then result in an enourmous mass of incredible density which radiates NO light, BUT contains alll the gravitational force and potential energy in what was the universe.

    thats what happens in the end. so the beginning would consist of that same enormous non defineable mass of matter containing ALL of the atoms in the universe which is constantly compacting itself and creating more pressure, and collecting more and more potential energy. when it builds up enough it "might" explode in a BIG... ummmmm whats that word...... Boom, no.... BUST! hmmmm no

    Big Bang?


    I think that might be it
    which, my friend IS a cycle. further expands my PC theory. ones and zeroes.
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    Zitat Zitat von TheRaiderNation Beitrag anzeigen
    wait, so if the universe is constantly expanding does that mean that(in theory) we could reach the end of the universe?

    Forgot the expanding ><
    no, we would end up where we started.
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    The god of the Bible and the God of the Qu'ran are two different gods.
    our Creators. are GOD to US. they gained enough intelligence to create LIFE. which is where we came from. Over time they PERFECTED their SKILL. starting with single-celled organisms., then multi-celled organisms. then finally, US. we were supposedly created in THEIR likeness. they wanted to create THEMSELVES. and they DID, but they feared it would be too dangerous to co-exist in their planet, and so they found Earth, and planted the seed of life and created EVERY living thing.
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    For a boundary to exist, there has to be something on each side. You guys are completely getting the whole bigbang mixed up.

    The known universe, aka matter, energy, theoretical (dark matter and energy) are expanding, pushing our universe outwards in boundaries, yes that's right. But they are speaking of it in a sense of what contains matter. A void is a void, no matter how you cut it, and the void of space exists in infinite dimensions outwardly, and goes forever into nothingness. and an easy assumption is, you can't create infinite nothingness, since it would create an infinite amount of time to create, no matter how fast the creator works (if there were one).

    Knowing this, the universe more likely than not has no beginning nor end, just is and has been and will be.
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    When we read science topics then there was water and thick matter in the word before universe.

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    Well I found this link that give you a little explanation about it:

    This goes on and on till we reach the multidimensional infinity. Those who are religious may at that stage interpret God as that invisible “multi-dimensional infinity” that really created everything and controls everything.

    So what was there before the big-bang theory? For understanding that concept, you may need to understand how stars and solar systems are created and they do die over time. For example four billion years from today, our Sun will “die” through a process called Super Nova. The whole solar system including our earth will be destroyed as the expanding sun will absorb it and then become a “dead Star”. But then all the matter around it will again collect into another area of the Universe and the new solar system will be created.

    Similarly, before our current Universe, the previous generation Universe died. There is something called “dark energy”. As dark energy increases, the acceleration may happen so quickly that galaxies, stars, and eventually atoms will be torn apart, in the so-called Big Rip. About six Billion years before our Universe started accelerating towards this Big Rip process.

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    humans will evolve again one day and figure all this out. until then..

    Zitat Zitat von madsoul Beitrag anzeigen
    lets face it. we will never know what happened for sure. end of story.we are too dumb


 
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