What was there before the universe?

[Chathurga]

The Universe always existed, all we could know it could be 9,999,999,999,999,999,999 ,999,999,999,999 Katrillion years old.

There was never NOT a universe.

Wrong. If it had always existed the night sky wouldn't be black.

[hawk2012]

how did it always exist... i thought the big bang created it....

"According to the big bang, the universe was created sometime between 10 billion and 20 billion years ago from a cosmic explosion that hurled matter and in..."

The Big Bang is a theory hint Big Bang Theory , It's not proven fact.

[Ciaran_]

The Big Bang is a theory hint Big Bang Theory , It's not proven fact.

If you want to be like that then everything is a theory and there is no proven facts.

[DtotheK]

well as far as i'm concerned it's has more evidence of being true than any other "how the universe was created" theory...

but i will change if proven less true within reason...

[hawk2012]

The Bible is all you need.

[Nero]

The Bible is all you need.

lol

oh yeah there was a programme on channel 4 to say that scientists proved that the bible was all rubbish

[Ciaran_]

The Bible is all you need.

Remember its all just a theory written 2000 years ago by a bunch of guys interpreting what god said.

[Nero]

Remember its all just a theory written 2000 years ago by a bunch of guys interpreting what god said.

true, people would of said different things to other people therfore the story kinda changes (if you know what i mean )

[Chathurga]

The Bible is all you need.

Oh really?
The Qu'ran presents a different view on the creation of the universe. Now both are suppose to be what god did but both have different versions, completley different. Some parts of Genisis are supposed to describe the actions of god took to create the universe and all the Qu'ran is supposed to be the word of god so how can both have different versions of the creation? God wouldn't have done it two ways.
Don't believe the bible word for word, think for yourself.

Note: I think the Bible and Qu'ran are equally ful of crap.

[hawk2012]

The god of the Bible and the God of the Qu'ran are two different gods.

[Ciaran_]

Ehh no they're not. The Jewish, Muslim and Christian (and I'm sure many others) gods are all the same god.

[LampShade]

but if its constantly accelarating like some scientists say, wouldnt that mean it has a limit because most of these scientists also agree thiers nothing faster than speed of light, so how could it be constantly accelarating, and how could it have not gained at least upto this speed if it was here for so long. Thus questioning the accelaration of the universes expansion theory

Nothing can move faster than the speed of light. That is the answer to your problem. What is space? Space IS nothing. The universe can expand faster than the speed of light because it is just existence that is growing not anything else. Not matter, not energy, just space.

[_twopoint]

Ehh no they're not. The Jewish, Muslim and Christian (and I'm sure many others) gods are all the same god.

no there not. we ( Christians ) believe God ( Jehovah ) while Muslim believe Mahammad or sumthiin

[nights]

no there not. we ( Christians ) believe God ( Jehovah ) while Muslim believe Mahammad or sumthiin

Glitch and you know why you believe ? Its called Faith. I myself being a Christian have sometimes questioned my beliefs. Seriously, the people who wrote the Bible could have convinced people to believe them. Kinda like Halo : It just keeps getting bigger and bigger. The Bible = http://www.evilbible.com/Ritual_Human_Sacrifice.htm

[_twopoint]

i odnt really see it like that. somethings in the bible are kind of odd. but i still think of it as Gods word. its like my tutorial to life. how to have a life like Jesus.

[nights]

Yeah...I have had this discussion with many people at my school. In my opinion I believe the Bible is the greatest story ever told. I believe it has truth intertwined with fairy tale.

[Ciaran_]

no there not. we ( Christians ) believe God ( Jehovah ) while Muslim believe Mahammad or sumthiin

Muhammad is a prophet not a god.

[illegal machine]

MY personal favorite is peoples lack of ability to notice that Judaism is a religion, Hebrew is a language. A lot of people think Jews are a race...

[_twopoint]

MY personal favorite is peoples lack of ability to notice that Judaism is a religion, Hebrew is a language. A lot of people think Jews are a race...

ll....that doesnt make sense. i call the people who believe that a Jew. so......yea

[hollandmaster]

My big reason is a other galaxy behind the black hole where was A big bang that created the black hole THE END OF THAT GALAXY. After the creation of this black hole there was slipping energy away trough the black hole from the other galaxy to our galaxy that created the big energy field in the black hole.
The rest of the slipped energy got A minor bang becouse of the -+ energie that was too big and all the energy was spread over our universe. The energy worked as a big magnet called gravity and that worked as a vacuum cleaner for the black hole to take all the rocks and dust out of it and made all kind of balls out of it in the upcomming several years of that time. Some of the rocks had bacteria on them that created livable plannets...

Our galaxy is growing larger this caused the black hole to close down with a big magnetic energie field.

conclusion:

The old galaxy is destroyed by it`s own nature and our galaxy will do the same when there is too much energy, now there is a new galaxy created.

[Chappo]

Why does they have to be a before.

Maybe this universe is the first. Maybe we aare a beta test before the major project. The question i have is when does it end.

But who cares i'll be dead.

[Chathurga]

My big reason is a other galaxy behind the black hole where was A big bang that created the black hole THE END OF THAT GALAXY. After the creation of this black hole there was slipping energy away trough the black hole from the other galaxy to our galaxy that created the big energy field in the black hole.
The rest of the slipped energy got A minor bang becouse of the -+ energie that was too big and all the energy was spread over our universe. The energy worked as a big magnet called gravity and that worked as a vacuum cleaner for the black hole to take all the rocks and dust out of it and made all kind of balls out of it in the upcomming several years of that time. Some of the rocks had bacteria on them that created livable plannets...

Our galaxy is growing larger this caused the black hole to close down with a big magnetic energie field.

conclusion:

The old galaxy is destroyed by it`s own nature and our galaxy will do the same when there is too much energy, now there is a new galaxy created.

What the hell was that? Too much pseudoscience for me.

[madsoul]

oftopic: hehe, your sig chaturga matches mine ^_^

[BreakDecks]

My big reason is a other galaxy behind the black hole where was A big bang that created the black hole THE END OF THAT GALAXY. After the creation of this black hole there was slipping energy away trough the black hole from the other galaxy to our galaxy that created the big energy field in the black hole.
The rest of the slipped energy got A minor bang becouse of the -+ energie that was too big and all the energy was spread over our universe. The energy worked as a big magnet called gravity and that worked as a vacuum cleaner for the black hole to take all the rocks and dust out of it and made all kind of balls out of it in the upcomming several years of that time. Some of the rocks had bacteria on them that created livable plannets...

Our galaxy is growing larger this caused the black hole to close down with a big magnetic energie field.

conclusion:

The old galaxy is destroyed by it`s own nature and our galaxy will do the same when there is too much energy, now there is a new galaxy created.

No...

It seems you don't know the difference between a Universe and a Galaxy. The Universe is everything, a Galaxy is a huge ball of stars. They are really quite different.

Even when I try to decipher that, it's obvious you don't know squat about what you are talking about.

And was it really necessary to bump such an old thread?

[hollandmaster]

im from holland and my english is bad so I use other words to expres myself. Your such A negative person... Just relax man.

[k0ud]

I've always asked this question and nobody can ever give me some type of answer. So what do you guys think? I know most of you are going to say, "Nothing". But what is nothing exactly? It can't be empty space, because that is something. So what exactly was there before the universe. I want to hear your thoughts.

GOD exist before the universe

[st.jimmy]

I've always asked this question and nobody can ever give me some type of answer. So what do you guys think? I know most of you are going to say, "Nothing". But what is nothing exactly? It can't be empty space, because that is something. So what exactly was there before the universe. I want to hear your thoughts.

The question that confuses scientists.
How could nothing generate something like the universe?
They theorize how the planets came to be, but what about the universe?
It's just one big headache.

no there not. we ( Christians ) believe God ( Jehovah ) while Muslim believe Mahammad or sumthiin

jehova...
That cleared up one of the names in ff7. (mother = jenova)

My big reason is a other galaxy behind the black hole where was A big bang that created the black hole THE END OF THAT GALAXY. After the creation of this black hole there was slipping energy away trough the black hole from the other galaxy to our galaxy that created the big energy field in the black hole.
The rest of the slipped energy got A minor bang becouse of the -+ energie that was too big and all the energy was spread over our universe. The energy worked as a big magnet called gravity and that worked as a vacuum cleaner for the black hole to take all the rocks and dust out of it and made all kind of balls out of it in the upcomming several years of that time. Some of the rocks had bacteria on them that created livable plannets...

Our galaxy is growing larger this caused the black hole to close down with a big magnetic energie field.

conclusion:

The old galaxy is destroyed by it`s own nature and our galaxy will do the same when there is too much energy, now there is a new galaxy created.

I think you mean 'universe'.
Tell me, where did the first universe come from?

[C-Money]

The world was full of hippies before us.

[Chathurga]

The question that confuses scientists.

I am yet to meet a scientist who is confused by this question.
The answer is simple and has been stated many times throughout this thread.

[Darth Budd]

we donno, we do know that all matter that exists now existed before now, but we have no idea what form it took.