'Moon Landing' Real or Hoax?

[Anon]

I doubt it would be hard to prove it. We have telescopes that can see galaxies away. I am sure the flag would be visable from the earths surface with a suitable telescope.

My question is, why do people want to beleive that we DIDN'T land on the moon. It was a great technological feat.

[JoeDaStudd]

Where are the stars in the sky?
If you can see them from Earth why can't you see them from the moon?

[Ciaran_]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_la...aphs_and_films
Read number 3


And everyone Google before asking any questions!!

[Freshmilk]

I think we made it. But that doesn't say that we did, and theres no way to prove it. But if we didn't, then what did we send to the skies...?
A rocket full of earth's garbage or something?
Thats a great message to aliens... (if they are out there)

[DrKickflip13]

"we did NOT land on the moon and will not for a very long time..." - me
"you're joking right" - someone else

Don't feed the trolls madsoul.

So I'm a "troll" now for having my own opinion?

1) Why are there no satalite images showing any kind of proof that we were there. They have the technology to find it if it was actually there...

2) http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm <- Scroll down to death of key people. At least 10 people were killed in a very short time frame after the moon landing. 10 of them were astronauts and 2 were civilians. Expain how 10 astronauts die in less than a 3 year period?

3) If armstrong was the first person on the moon, then who was standing on the moon's surface to record it happening?

4) The radiation layer before they got to the moon would have killed everyone on board the Apollo spacecraft. If you don't believe me, goto So to what lengths did NASA take to shield the astronauts against the radiation? Its accepted that a minimum of 10 cm width of aluminium would be needed at the very least to keep out radiation. However the walls of the Apollo craft and capsule were made as thin and as light as possible and as a result the craft initially could not carry enough air inside to withstand the equivalent to sea level air pressure. NASA had to reduce air pressure inside the cabin to cope. Here are the official stats from a NASA website: (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...lsj/frame.html) and scroll down to radiation

Well I don't feel like listing proof if you're too thickheaded to look at other people's point of view.
-= Double Post =-

I think we made it. But that doesn't say that we did, and theres no way to prove it. But if we didn't, then what did we send to the skies...?
A rocket full of earth's garbage or something?
Thats a great message to aliens... (if they are out there)

Actually a while ago they took a photograph of a nude man and woman and put it in a rocket and "blasted it into space" hoping that "an alien" would eventually find it
-= Double Post =-

Where are the stars in the sky?
If you can see them from Earth why can't you see them from the moon?

Why aren't there stars in ANY of the pictures from the Apollo mission? :Jump:

[madsoul]

Why aren't there stars in ANY of the pictures from the Apollo mission? :Jump:

Stars are not dramatically brighter in space (above the Earth's atmosphere). Professional astronomer and two-time space shuttle astronaut Ronald A. Parise stated that he could barely see stars at all from space. He had to turn out all of the lights in the shuttle to even glimpse the stars . Even with cameras several times more sensitive than the ones used on Apollo, it takes an exposure of several seconds to show up even the brighter stars. Exposure times of the Apollo photographs were a small fraction of a second, typically 1/250 of a second.

[Gutya]

I beleive we never landed on the moon.

However, the flag looks like its flapping because it has a pole in the top to keep it sticking out, and its creased from storage.

It was still staged though.

[Nero]

they did land on ther damn moon end of story!

[Gutya]

they did land on ther damn moon end of story!

You don't KNOW that.

[Nero]

oh yes i do......

[madsoul]

You don't KNOW that.

if you carefully read through this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_la...aphs_and_films

i will promisse you that you will belive we went to the moon.
-= Double Post =-
and this: http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/lin...moon_flag.html

[Nero]

it was ON THE GOD DAMN NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DrKickflip13]

oh yes i do......

would you like to refute the endless ammount of proof that we did NOT land on the moon with something more inteligent than 4 words :)?

[madsoul]

it was ON THE GOD DAMN NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!

how do you know there maybe wazent anything at all before you where born...? youl never know for sure... ;);)
-= Double Post =-

would you like to refute the endless ammount of proof that we did NOT land on the moon with something more inteligent than 4 words :)?

you do ignore my proof right? DrNuts

[Nero]

would you like to refute the endless ammount of proof that we did NOT land on the moon with something more inteligent than 4 words :)?

why yes i will do :)

see? 5 words :humped:

[DrKickflip13]

how do you know there maybe wazent anything at all before you where born...? youl never know for sure... ;);)
-= Double Post =-

you do ignore my proof right? DrNuts

I was talking to emo_hunter. You on the other hand are allowed to participate in this little debate/argument since you back it up with "facts." Anyway I came to this conclusion...
There is no way to prove it even though we have incredible telescopes than could find the US flag / blast craters if they REALLY WERE there..but anyway there is no way to prove if we did or didn't land so its just your own opionion and it doens't really matter if we did or didnt land :) except Russia would be really pissed at us for making it up just to say we won the space race...

[madsoul]

I was talking to emo_hunter. You on the other hand are allowed to participate in this little debate/argument since you back it up with "facts." Anyway I came to this conclusion...
There is no way to prove it even though we have incredible telescopes than could find the US flag / blast craters if they REALLY WERE there..but anyway there is no way to prove if we did or didn't land so its just your own opionion and it doens't really matter if we did or didnt land :) except Russia would be really pissed at us for making it up just to say we won the space race...

i cant see anything in what you just wrote that can hold against the links i just posted... you loose man ;)

[Rip The Jacker]

There is a TON of evidence/info/pictures explaining why the moon landing was faked... so I (me) believe... yes, it was fake. We never did land on the moon.

But in the end... who gives a crap?

[Abe_Froeman]

Has there been any evidence presented by an accredited and respected scientist that says there was no landing?

[dracule]

Has there been any evidence presented by an accredited and respected scientist that says there was no landing?

why cant we see the flag with high powered teloscopes and stuff?

[madsoul]

Has there been any evidence presented by an accredited and respected scientist that says there was no landing?

thanks for saving me abe

if people just could read through the links i posted they would belive the thruth!

[geoffmillward]

Where are the stars in the sky?
If you can see them from Earth why can't you see them from the moon?

because the sun is brighter on the moon than the earth, so that is why it glows at night :) and since its soo bright, you cant see much of anything cept earth and the sun

[Rip The Jacker]

Has there been any evidence presented by an accredited and respected scientist that says there was no landing?

What part of "who gives a crap?" did you not understand? :P

You want an accredited and respected scientist to tell you it's fake? No one will do that, and even then, whatever. So because an accredited and respected scientist says that the moon landing IS real, he is 100% right and telling the truth, with 0% chance of being paid to lie.

... why do I suddenly care so much? =/

[Joey]

It's threads like this that steadily make me hate the Internet more and more...

All I'm gonna say is... Who the hell cares? It never did matter. The space race was just a d*ck size contest...

The Moon Landing, weather you believe it happened or not (it did retards, get a hobby), it has absolutly no baring on life now.

Just give it up.

[Abe_Froeman]

What part of "who gives a crap?" did you not understand? :P

You want an accredited and respected scientist to tell you it's fake? No one will do that, and even then, whatever. So because an accredited and respected scientist says that the moon landing IS real, he is 100% right and telling the truth, with 0% chance of being paid to lie.

... why do I suddenly care so much? =/

Slow down there man. I was just asking a question since you detracters apparently have studied this topic more than I have. If there had been one, my next question would have been who and where was it published so I can read it, etc.

Take a step back and relax. I didn't directly quote you, so I wasn't speaking directly at you.

DFS - I couldn't agree more.

Edit - If there was a conspiracy theory that stated something relating to common medical practices I would have asked if any accredited and respected doctors published anything on the topic, etc.

[Rip The Jacker]

Slow down there man. I was just asking a question since you detracters apparently have studied this topic more than I have. If there had been one, my next question would have been who and where was it published so I can read it, etc.

Take a step back and relax. I didn't directly quote you, so I wasn't speaking directly at you.

DFS - I couldn't agree more.

Edit - If there was a conspiracy theory that stated something relating to common medical practices I would have asked if any accredited and respected doctors published anything on the topic, etc.

Sorry I was in the moment. :P

Didn't mean to be harsh or anything...

All I'm gonna say is... Who the hell cares? It never did matter. The space race was just a d*ck size contest...

Yeah that just about sums it up. Whatever... I'm hungry.

[Ciaran_]

1) Why are there no satalite images showing any kind of proof that we were there. They have the technology to find it if it was actually there...

What do you want? There was scientific instruments left there by them that are still in use today.

2) http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm <- Scroll down to death of key people. At least 10 people were killed in a very short time frame after the moon landing. 10 of them were astronauts and 2 were civilians. Expain how 10 astronauts die in less than a 3 year period?

1 of them had heart problems and 2 of them were not part civilian manned space program. Suspicious but not proof.

3) If armstrong was the first person on the moon, then who was standing on the moon's surface to record it happening?

There are cameras on the lunar lander.

4) The radiation layer before they got to the moon would have killed everyone on board the Apollo spacecraft. If you don't believe me, goto So to what lengths did NASA take to shield the astronauts against the radiation? Its accepted that a minimum of 10 cm width of aluminium would be needed at the very least to keep out radiation. However the walls of the Apollo craft and capsule were made as thin and as light as possible and as a result the craft initially could not carry enough air inside to withstand the equivalent to sea level air pressure. NASA had to reduce air pressure inside the cabin to cope. Here are the official stats from a NASA website: (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...lsj/frame.html)

Moon is ten times higher than the Van Allen radiation belts. The spacecraft moved through the belts in just 30 minutes, and the astronauts were protected from the ionizing radiation by the metal hulls of the spacecraft. In addition, the orbital transfer trajectory from the Earth to the Moon through the belts was selected to minimize radiation exposure. Even Dr. James Van Allen, the discoverer of the Van Allen radiation belts, rebutted the claims that radiation levels were too dangerous for the Apollo missions. Dosimeters carried by the crews showed they received about the same cumulative dosage as a chest X-ray or about 1 milligray. [52] Plait cited an average dose of less than 1 rem, which is equivalent to the ambient radiation received by living at sea level for three years.

Well I don't feel like listing proof if you're too thickheaded to look at other people's point of view.

Convenient

[DrKickflip13]

why cant we see the flag with high powered teloscopes and stuff?

Exactly what I was wondering. There would be blast craters + the flag clearly visible if it was actaully there (but its not ;) )

[Abe_Froeman]

Exactly what I was wondering. There would be blast craters + the flag clearly visible if it was actaully there (but its not ;) )

There are some detailed explanations as to why the Hubble and other satellites cannot view the landing site on this website. Along with other portions debunking sorts of other evidence that is used to come to the conclusion that we never landed there.

http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/

[Ciaran_]

Exactly what I was wondering. There would be blast craters + the flag clearly visible if it was actaully there (but its not ;) )

The moon is alot further away than is normally represented by scale models. We don't have telescopes powerfull enough to see something like a 1.5m high flag at those distances.

EDIT: Also nice of you to just ignore my post ¬_¬