'Moon Landing' Real or Hoax?

[JoeDaStudd]

Did man really land on the Moon on July 20, 1969. Or was it a hoax.
Personally Im not sure at all.

Ps. I hope this is in the right topic

[iball®]

Why don't you search and post in the thread that's already been created on this?

Can we get a mod merge?

EDIT: Nevermind, they locked that thread. And they will probably lock this thread as well.

[madsoul]

OFCOURSE they landed on the moon... jesus..

[Chathurga]

They did land, end of story.

[Realn0whereman]

well how can there be wind???

[Waterbottle]

well how can there be wind???

how can there not be wind ;)

I'm sure they landed.

[Ciaran_]

well how can there be wind???

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/lin...moon_flag.html

[Realn0whereman]

im not too educated about this tho.. does the moon have an atmostphere... if so then those particles could have been disturbed byu the craft or something and they were blown... and if it was faked i dont think that the US would have missed that small detail

[Ciaran_]

im not too educated about this tho.. does the moon have an atmostphere... if so then those particles could have been disturbed byu the craft or something and they were blown... and if it was faked i dont think that the US would have missed that small detail

Moon has no real atmosphere and anything from the space craft would of settled by the time they were setting up the flag.


These are the type of images they are basing the claims off.

[Chathurga]

Well the big thing is if it was faked, someone would have proved it was faked for sure by now.

[iball®]

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/lin...moon_flag.html

If you ladies would take the time to actually READ this...

[Abe_Froeman]

Take a peek in a telescope and look at the landing site. If you don't have one, go to your local observatory.

[Hedzx]

i wanna do that ^^^^^

[DrKickflip13]

Well we had to watch a conspiracy video saying that we never landed on the moon. It makes sense that U.S.A would fake it to beat Russia since Russia was making much more progess than we were ;). Anyway the Loose Change 9/11 conspiracy video was ALSO very convincing so I guess that its just a hoax. IMO, we did NOT land on the moon and will not for a very long time...

[madsoul]

Well we had to watch a conspiracy video saying that we never landed on the moon. It makes sense that U.S.A would fake it to beat Russia since Russia was making much more progess than we were ;). Anyway the Loose Change 9/11 conspiracy video was ALSO very convincing so I guess that its just a hoax. IMO, we did NOT land on the moon and will not for a very long time...

your jooking... right..?

[Abe_Froeman]

your jooking... right..?

Don't feed the trolls madsoul.

[madsoul]

Don't feed the trolls madsoul.

ok, sorry... i dont want to get banned.

[uber0ne]

Actually we did. Let me give you evidence for almost every reason given for it being fake.

1. "Apollo 14 astronaut Allen Shepard played golf on the Moon. In front of a worldwide TV audience, Mission Control teased him about slicing the ball to the right. Yet a slice is caused by uneven air flow over the ball. The Moon has no atmosphere and no air." The functional word here is "teased". Mission control was, as you said, merely teasing him. There is no way for anyone to be able to tell exactly which way the ball went. And even if you could, maybe he wasn't
holding the club straight, so the head hit the ball on an angle.

2. "A camera panned upwards to catch Apollo 16's Lunar Landerlifting off the Moon. Who did the filming?"
Mission Control. If you watched the miniseries "From the Earth to the Moon", you would know that there was a guy in mission control, controlling the pan/tilt functions on the tv camera tripod. If you want to bring up the 7 second radio delay due to distance, he actually sent the command to tilt up with the ascending lander 7 seconds before it happened, and it all worked out.

3. "One NASA picture from Apollo 11 is looking up at Neil Armstrong about to take his giant step for mankind. The photographer must have been lying on the planet surface. If Armstrong was the first man on the Moon, then who took the shot?" You really ought to learn more about the missions before you start attacking them like this. There was an arm attached to the lander that was deployed just before Neil Armstrong opened the hatch. This arm had a television and a still camera mounted to it.

4. "The pressure inside a space suit was greater than inside a football. The astronauts should have been puffed out like the Michelin Man, but were seen freely bending their joints." Did you really think that they just sent them up there in an airtight jumper? OK. I'm gonna make this real easy for you. Here is a quote from the NASA KIDS website. so you should be able to understand it. "The space suit is made of hard materials with jointed sections to allow movement. The upper and lower torso sections are put on separately. The two pieces are connected at the waist to allow the flow of water and gas
lines. Gloves and helmet create a sealed protection against meteoroids and radiation. On Earth, the space suit weighs about 100 pounds. In space, the suit weighs much less. Under normal conditions, a space suit should last about 8 years." So. assuming you can read. you have just learnt about an American space suit. There is a hard layer of plastic, among many other things, protecting the astronauts from the vacuum of space.

5. "The Moon landings took place during the Cold War. Why didn't America make a signal on the moon that could be seen from earth? The PR would have been phenomenal and it could have been easily done with magnesium flares." That's like saying 'Why don't the ISS astronauts light up the sky with millions and millions of flares?' CAUSE THERE'S NO POINT!!! What you're saying is. because they didn't put a massive flare on the moon. they never actually went. (Oh.. and by the way. have fun igniting a magnesium flare without oxygen).

6. "Text from pictures in the article said that only two men walked on the Moon during the Apollo 12 mission. Yet the astronaut reflected in the visor has no camera. Who took the shot?:

As you can see from this photo of Pete Conrad on Apollo 12, astronauts didn't hold cameras like you do when you're taking a picture of your grandmother, the camera was attached to their suit at the chest. Most small tools used by astronauts were attached to their suits, so they would not be lost.

7&8. "The flags shadow goes behind the rock so doesn't match the dark line in the foreground, which looks like a line cord. So the shadow to the lower right of the spaceman must be the flag. Where is his shadow? And why is the flag fluttering if there is no air or wind on the moon? & How can the flag be brightly lit when its side is to the light? And where, in all of these shots, are the stars?"


Do you honestly mean to tell me that you believe that this photo hasn't been played with? Somebody (no.. NOT NASA) has doctored this photo really badly to make people like YOU think that you have a stronger case against NASA. That astronaut was copied and pasted into that photo. And as for the flag.. that shadow goes to the side with the face clearly lit because it's not exactly parallel to the sun's rays! It's on a bit of an angle, which anybody will tell you, is enough to clearly light the flag. And as for the fluttering.. less drugs for you, man. it's not moving at all. Do you know what happens when a flag is stowed for several weeks, all folded up? You guessed it.. It gets wrinkled! Look at getting some better glasses. As for the stars. in photography, to prevent an over-exposure (phonetically: Ovur-ekspojur) you must close the iris a bit, or in this case, a lot. The sun is much brighter here than the brightest day on earth. With the iris down far enough to prevent over-exposure, there is no way you would ever, EVER see ANYTHING in the sky other than the sun and the earth.

9. "The Lander weighed 17 tons yet the astronauts feet seem to have made a bigger dent in the dust. The powerful booster rocket at the base of the Lunar Lander was fired to slow descent to the moons service. Yet it has left no traces of blasting on the dust underneath. It should have created a small crater, yet the booster looks like it's never been fired." A few things you're forgetting.. It's mass was 17 tons, yes, however since weight is relative to gravity, and the moon has 1/6th the earth's gravity, the WEIGHT of the lunar lander was only 17/6 tons (2.833 tonnes). Now I'm not saying that this is light, there was dust stirred up when it landed, but no more that when a chopper lands here on earth.

[madsoul]

just found something strange in the pic on the site:



it just looked strange on the ground. like double images. by posting this i dont mean that i belive it was a fake (it was real, we have been on the moon!) i just thought it looked strange

[Ninjax1]

It is fake as hell.

[Sollen]

We did land, they who claims the opposite but without proof are dip****s. Perhaps you who think its fake should read the page that was posted in this thread before.

[Chathurga]

Strange that no one EVER came out about it.
Oh yeh that is because they DID land on the moon.

[Hemperor]

Question, when was the last time America landed on the moon?

I do however belive we already have landed.

[Bad Intentions]

I believe the moon landing was real.

[Ciaran_]

Question, when was the last time America landed on the moon?

I do however belive we already have landed.

1972 for the last manned mission although plans for more are underway now and the last unmanned mission was in 1998.

[Zeemon]

Moon has no real atmosphere and anything from the space craft would of settled by the time they were setting up the flag.


These are the type of images they are basing the claims off.

Well.. There's also little gravity. They probably set the flag up so it looks good in a piture that whole world would see. That's one explanation... But who knows.

[thunder_balls]

Read the link Claran500 posted. There you have it.

[Cpt. Chuck]

Well.. There's also little gravity. They probably set the flag up so it looks good in a piture that whole world would see. That's one explanation... But who knows.

tHAT picture is fake, definetly. but that wasn't actaully on the moon ryt? they did that on a set, ryt? But i do velieve we landed on the moon, thtas so true its ot even funny.

[PSPHax0r9]

Well we had to watch a conspiracy video saying that we never landed on the moon. It makes sense that U.S.A would fake it to beat Russia since Russia was making much more progess than we were ;). Anyway the Loose Change 9/11 conspiracy video was ALSO very convincing so I guess that its just a hoax. IMO, we did NOT land on the moon and will not for a very long time...

Most ignorant person ever. Ever. You sir, win the all-time ignorance award. Congratulations.

[mannymix03]

We are suppsed to land on the moon again by 2008-2009, and the space shuttle is being phased out, and they say mars in like 2029