QJ.net needs your help! -Updated! Unbanned from Digg!

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Zitat von FLai

OK, I respect your argument. Its WRONG, but I respect it. As for blocking sites, your moderator team should be good enough to ban users who give links to ISO's, rather than just being lazy and blocking the sites URL's instead.

Next, PG-13?! Yeah right! Josey Wales starts spouting some random stuff about anal sex in the MD Party Room all the time. Thats PG-13 for sure.

Next, have you ever been in the DS Forums?! I'll give you a list of threads and posts pertaining to getting commercial ROMS to work if you want.

Next, do you seriously think that people on 1.5 pay for games?! You allowing DevHook to be downloaded from dl.qj.net is double standards, no matter what way you look at it. It is an ISO loader. It does other stuff too, but is has an ISO functionality. DOUBLE STANDARDS QJ!

Lastly, why don't you find out where most of my post count comes from. I talk in the Party Room often, BUT, I mainly talk to MaDSouL, c5cha7 and others like that. You know who they are don't you? PSP DEVS! Most of my post count comes from the PSP forums. So, to conclude on a brighter note; OWNZED!

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Flai his argument is right. QJ blocks links to sites that host, support and discuss obtaining iso's. We have a strict piracy policy as your probably aware. Its whether the mods for the specific forums enforce it. We all think differently and one mod may think something is bannable whereas another may think it only needs a warning.

PG-13 IS the rating for this site. Some people try to bend the rules and see what they can get away with. But usually it all gets picked up and actioned. Your forgetting that there is a backstage area for discussion of events on the forums between mods/admin. And if you see something that you don't think is right click the Notify Mod button its what its there for. It might not be picked up straight away but it will get picked up and then whichever mod is around will decide on the action to take with it.

ISO's in the PSP forums are a big no no as there is one specific program for running them. In DS the way to run them is the same as running homebrew. So we can't really discuss homebrew without discussing rom's. If you see something in the DS forum that you think directly breaks the Piracy Policy then again click the notify mod button.

I'm not so clued on DevHook but from what I understood you needed to have UMD emulator to run ISO's using it. And qj does not support UMD emu or host it. As I say im not so clued up on that but thats what I understood. Its a firmware emulator through and through if it happens to load iso's its irrelevant. I don't see the problem with hosting ISO loaders personally as it in no way tells you how to obtain ISO's.

You can chat to devs on AIM, MSN or any other Instant Messaging program for that matter. At the end of the day if you hate the forums that much then leave. It will be a big shame because you make a decent contribution to the forums.

A bit of maturity goes a long way.

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Zitat von chocomog

Flai his argument is right. QJ blocks links to sites that host, support and discuss obtaining iso's. We have a strict piracy policy as your probably aware. Its whether the mods for the specific forums enforce it. We all think differently and one mod may think something is bannable whereas another may think it only needs a warning.

PG-13 IS the rating for this site. Some people try to bend the rules and see what they can get away with. But usually it all gets picked up and actioned. Your forgetting that there is a backstage area for discussion of events on the forums between mods/admin. And if you see something that you don't think is right click the Notify Mod button its what its there for. It might not be picked up straight away but it will get picked up and then whichever mod is around will decide on the action to take with it.

ISO's in the PSP forums are a big no no as there is one specific program for running them. In DS the way to run them is the same as running homebrew. So we can't really discuss homebrew without discussing rom's. If you see something in the DS forum that you think directly breaks the Piracy Policy then again click the notify mod button.

I'm not so clued on DevHook but from what I understood you needed to have UMD emulator to run ISO's using it. And qj does not support UMD emu or host it. As I say im not so clued up on that but thats what I understood. Its a firmware emulator through and through if it happens to load iso's its irrelevant. I don't see the problem with hosting ISO loaders personally as it in no way tells you how to obtain ISO's.

You can chat to devs on AIM, MSN or any other Instant Messaging program for that matter. At the end of the day if you hate the forums that much then leave. It will be a big shame because you make a decent contribution to the forums.

A bit of maturity goes a long way.

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I agree with you for the most part, no, you don't need that. Thats for a different iso loading program (MPH ;)). I would also like to add that, with mods each having their own unique personality, their decisions will be different. And with only having 4 0r 5 mods/admins on at once usually its nearly impossible to find everything that "bends" or "breaks" the forum rules. So give them a break ;). Well thats my two cents

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Zitat von Bronx

I agree with you for the most part, no, you don't need that. Thats for a different iso loading program (MPH ;)). I would also like to add that, with mods each having their own unique personality, their decisions will be different. And with only having 4 0r 5 mods/admins on at once usually its nearly impossible to find everything that "bends" or "breaks" the forum rules. So give them a break ;). Well thats my two cents

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Thanks you. Well now i have a better understanding of devhook. I can see why flai thinks there is double standards hosting devhook and not iso loaders. But devhook is more than just a iso loader.

I was getting worried actually I've been the only person online with any power for 9 hours but now theres a good team on so I can relax a bit.

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Zitat von chocomog

Flai his argument is right. QJ blocks links to sites that host, support and discuss obtaining iso's. We have a strict piracy policy as your probably aware. Its whether the mods for the specific forums enforce it. We all think differently and one mod may think something is bannable whereas another may think it only needs a warning.

PG-13 IS the rating for this site. Some people try to bend the rules and see what they can get away with. But usually it all gets picked up and actioned. Your forgetting that there is a backstage area for discussion of events on the forums between mods/admin. And if you see something that you don't think is right click the Notify Mod button its what its there for. It might not be picked up straight away but it will get picked up and then whichever mod is around will decide on the action to take with it.

ISO's in the PSP forums are a big no no as there is one specific program for running them. In DS the way to run them is the same as running homebrew. So we can't really discuss homebrew without discussing rom's. If you see something in the DS forum that you think directly breaks the Piracy Policy then again click the notify mod button.

I'm not so clued on DevHook but from what I understood you needed to have UMD emulator to run ISO's using it. And qj does not support UMD emu or host it. As I say im not so clued up on that but thats what I understood. Its a firmware emulator through and through if it happens to load iso's its irrelevant. I don't see the problem with hosting ISO loaders personally as it in no way tells you how to obtain ISO's.

You can chat to devs on AIM, MSN or any other Instant Messaging program for that matter. At the end of the day if you hate the forums that much then leave. It will be a big shame because you make a decent contribution to the forums.

A bit of maturity goes a long way.

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Well, fine. If thats the rules then fine. I except them, I just don't agree. And btw, seen as your not too clued up on DevHook, it doesn't need UMD EMU. It uses UMD Emu's core for ISO mounting but that is irrelevant. And the DS stuff is bullsh|t. Just because you run them in the same way doesn't make it any less moral. And I would never report piracy because I think helping people is OK. If someone was just giving out links to ISO's then I would report them but otherwise if someone was just asking how to run ISO's or ROMS then I would just leave it. Its not my concern to stop pirates. Its yours as a mod to stop it on this site. And I'm not going to leave any time soon. I just think you should reavaluate your standards.

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Zitat von FLai

Well, fine. If thats the rules then fine. I except them, I just don't agree. And btw, seen as your not too clued up on DevHook, it doesn't need UMD EMU. It uses UMD Emu's core for ISO mounting but that is irrelevant. And the DS stuff is bullsh|t. Just because you run them in the same way doesn't make it any less moral. And I would never report piracy because I think helping people is OK. If someone was just giving out links to ISO's then I would report them but otherwise if someone was just asking how to run ISO's or ROMS then I would just leave it. Its not my concern to stop pirates. Its yours as a mod to stop it on this site. And I'm not going to leave any time soon. I just think you should reavaluate your standards.

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To be fair Flai its nothing that any of us mods/VIPs can do anything about. Not even the admin. Its the owners that set the no piracy rule and all the rest of the rules. They then hire admin to hire mods to keep things running as smoothly as possible.

I'm trying to be as symphathetic as possible to both the users and staff side of things. In the early days of PSPU if anyone mentioned ISO then the thread was locked and the user was told not to ask about or discuss iso's again. If they then did they got a ban. The mods have loosened a lot on the subject since then but its still not a 100% allowed topic. By all means help people out just dont break the policy by doing so, its what I used to do but i lost interest in the psp forums and hence im kinda n00b about psp. I used to say I can help you as far as naming the program to use, not wear to get it, wear to get iso, what you do with the iso's. Running the iso's is fairly straight forward. If you really see someone struggling and want to help them, the safest way to do so is via PM as its not made public and as long as your not distributing links i see no problem with that.

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Zitat von chocomog

To be fair Flai its nothing that any of us mods/VIPs can do anything about. Not even the admin. Its the owners that set the no piracy rule and all the rest of the rules. They then hire admin to hire mods to keep things running as smoothly as possible.

I'm trying to be as symphathetic as possible to both the users and staff side of things. In the early days of PSPU if anyone mentioned ISO then the thread was locked and the user was told not to ask about or discuss iso's again. If they then did they got a ban. The mods have loosened a lot on the subject since then but its still not a 100% allowed topic. By all means help people out just dont break the policy by doing so, its what I used to do but i lost interest in the psp forums and hence im kinda n00b about psp. I used to say I can help you as far as naming the program to use, not wear to get it, wear to get iso, what you do with the iso's. Running the iso's is fairly straight forward. If you really see someone struggling and want to help them, the safest way to do so is via PM as its not made public and as long as your not distributing links i see no problem with that.

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Not anymore, considering there is about 4 different types of isos... runumd, ciso, dax and regular iso. And then there is all the diferent loaders... devhook, umd emu, runumd, mph gameloader, fastloader,daxiso loader, ect...

edit- this really has no bearing on this arguement though.

Double Post Merge

also maybe we should read this. http://forums.qj.net/policies-news-help/4394-piracy-policy-updated-dec-28-2006-a.html
It does state no iso loader will be hosted here (devhook [even though it has other purposes]) and how to us them will no be tolerated. btw, look at the consequences *gulp*

Flai, we all have our things.. the point is, if a site focuses openly on piracy tools... they will not be posted here. Legal reasons is one factor of that, We are dedicated to trying to run a clean site. Even devs etc all want to run in a moderated community.

Not everyone agrees, Dev Hook was a topic backstage with site owners for awhile too, we allowed it to be talked about, but not the iso aspect of it.

We try our best to please everyone, and make our name known.. and truth be told, you dont make it known on major news networks or communities if your known to be a site for piracy.. do you think digg would have the other sites who are all about iso and loaders? Not really... So by keeping it clean, we allow QJ.net to be posted on other networks vs be known for yet another hack site promoting piracy..

What you do personally.. is your own thing, even mods/admins we have our own thing, but when it comes to the network qj in a global form.. we must maintain standards.. ok?

I understand that you can't distribute ISO loaders. I understand that you cannot distribute ISO's. Do not think that I do not sympathize with you. I would be doing the same if I was the owner of this site. But, my issue is the fact that helping people with NDS piracy is fine, but even so much as talking about ISO's in the PSP forums is a ban worthy offence. And I also have an issue with the fact you host DevHook, and are allowed to help people with it, except you are never allowed to talk about the ISO part of it. I still say double standards.

@flai: does your opinion matter? think long and hard...and btw, werent you the idiot who used to flame zx-81 for his old-school emus?

lemme tell you something *****. whining will get you nowhere. and if you wanna stay in someone's house, you stay by his rules. doesnt matter if theyre ethical or not. if you cant live within the boundaries by the rules set here, please leave. frankly, nobody cares about a whiny POS like you. make your own **** forums, and do whatever the **** you want to do...oh wait! i forgot...the only person registering on your forum will be you...

like i said, either stop the whining or leave. you have no business criticising anyone.

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Zitat von The Pope!

@flai: does your opinion matter? think long and hard...and btw, werent you the idiot who used to flame zx-81 for his old-school emus?

lemme tell you something *****. whining will get you nowhere. and if you wanna stay in someone's house, you stay by his rules. doesnt matter if theyre ethical or not. if you cant live within the boundaries by the rules set here, please leave. frankly, nobody cares about a whiny POS like you. make your own **** forums, and do whatever the **** you want to do...oh wait! i forgot...the only person registering on your forum will be you...

like i said, either stop the whining or leave. you have no business criticising anyone.

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nice to see the bloggers setting a good example.

Blogger != Forum Staff

Oh, and the customary.....**** YOU!.....

Pope... that was really out of line the way you just hit flai... I swear...

Also NDS Piracy.. is worked to be kept under control. Trying to promote homebrew but not how to load the roms.. But NDS you have to admit, is more low key then PSP where all you need is a datacable.. NDS costs alot more.

and his whining is right?

just trying to even out the equation...

Omg Flai... i think your making a big deal over nothing (no offense). I love isos and i dont think its that bad to use them. Your stealing money from sony right? Well Who doesnt download music in here? Exactly! thats illegal and your stealing money from artist and music industries and people ALL AROUND THE WORLD download music so QUIT making such a big deal about it!!! OMG it gets me so pissed when people ***** about that. That being said dont think i dont respect the policy rule. I just hate when people complaine about isos!

No Pope, he is allowed to express himself.. but doesnt mean anyone is allowed to hit each other either, doing that only gets action taken on by the person who chooses to do things like that..

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Blogger != Forum Staff

Oh, and the customary.....**** YOU!.....

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exactly staff are supposed to set a good example.

especially paid staff like you.

I manage the frontpage, not the forums...I still get banned, so I'm still a common member here...

And myst, please stop being so politically correct..

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Zitat von The Pope!

@flai: does your opinion matter? think long and hard...and btw, werent you the idiot who used to flame zx-81 for his old-school emus?

lemme tell you something *****. whining will get you nowhere. and if you wanna stay in someone's house, you stay by his rules. doesnt matter if theyre ethical or not. if you cant live within the boundaries by the rules set here, please leave. frankly, nobody cares about a whiny POS like you. make your own **** forums, and do whatever the **** you want to do...oh wait! i forgot...the only person registering on your forum will be you...

like i said, either stop the whining or leave. you have no business criticising anyone.

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BTW, I will ignore the fact you just completely flamed me for no reason. I respect the hell out of zx-81 and if you actually look at the guy pretending to be me on that comment section (cause I know exactly which one your talking about) I jumped in and said the guy was pretending to be me. I said I don't use the emu's but I don't agree with what that guy said. And, just to completely shut you up, I ALWAYS log in to make comments. And also, a forum/site is useless without user input and opinions. I hope you'll think about that the next time you try to quash someones freedom of speech. A forum is not a house. Its a webpage. Useless analogy.

@Kevin101 - I never said I was for or against ISO's. I merely stated that the rules here have double standards at times.

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Zitat von The Pope!

And myst, please stop being so politically correct..

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As you wish...
*/Deactivates politically correct and polite mode*

Pope, stop being a god damn whiner, your whinning about flai is getting on everyones nerves and just shows what kinda person you are. Your just asking to be mod hit by someone. Seems you just come in here, whine and complain about flai expressing his opinion without bashing anyone else, but noooo not good enough for Mr.Pope who has to whine about it.

Swear... people who whine about something in the negative fashion.. trying to draw attention to themselves.. I swear..

*/reactivates mode*

There.. guess that wasnt so bad.. now then.. anymore issues I should know about?

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Zitat von Mysticales

As you wish...
*/Deactivates politically correct and polite mode*

Pope, stop being a god damn whiner, your whinning about flai is getting on everyones nerves and just shows what kinda person you are. Your just asking to be mod hit by someone. Seems you just come in here, whine and complain about flai expressing his opinion without bashing anyone else, but noooo not good enough for Mr.Pope who has to whine about it.

Swear... people who whine about something in the negative fashion.. trying to draw attention to themselves.. I swear..

*/reactivates mode*

There.. guess that wasnt so bad.. now then.. anymore issues I should know about?

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Well, thats what I like to see. Myst going badass on The Pope.

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Well, thats what I like to see. Myst going badass on The Pope.

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count yourself lucky *****...

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Zitat von The Pope!

count yourself lucky *****...

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Think you need a day to cool off.. you seem to just wanna entice something... see you in a day.

Well he is gone now. Was he formerly cyanide?

Ah well. Proved him wrong and couldn't do anything but spout expletives. Nice.

Ok guys.. back to the topic. Move on now.

I'm a little late on the reply, but... Maybe stories should only be added to digg after gaining a certain number of jumps? Then you wouldnt spam it with each individual story

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I'm a little late on the reply, but... Maybe stories should only be added to digg after gaining a certain number of jumps? Then you wouldnt spam it with each individual story

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thats true there are so many rubbish news articles posted. it shows that (some) of the bloggers are just posting anything to earn the money they recieve for each article.

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Zitat von chocomog

thats true there are so many rubbish news articles posted. it shows that (some) of the bloggers are just posting anything to earn the money they recieve for each article.

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Not going to go into details, but that is not how the system works.

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Zitat von Jake

Not going to go into details, but that is not how the system works.

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http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

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Not going to go into details, but that is not how the system works.

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oh apologies then but thats what i was led to believe.

We only add important articles to Digg, but what our readers submit to digg we cannot control, so submitting them to Digg only after a certain amount of jumps just doesn't work in practice.

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Not going to go into details, but that is not how the system works.

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No, go into details. It seems you like to tell everyone that they are wrong, yet you never explain why.

Flai drop it you've caused enough trouble in this thread already.

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No, go into details. It seems you like to tell everyone that they are wrong, yet you never explain why.

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cause he's secret agent man

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cause he's secret agent man

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:ROFL:

OK Back on topic, thats last word, anyone who strays next, gets banned. End of subject!

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No, go into details. It seems you like to tell everyone that they are wrong, yet you never explain why.

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He's just saying that that is not how the blogging/news system works on this site (making posts just for the money). He can not go into specifics, that is a trade secret, muhahaha.

I'm rather happy we are unbanned, no more complaining for us to do :p

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Zitat von Mysticales

OK Back on topic, thats last word, anyone who strays next, gets banned. End of subject!

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hi im dan!

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OK Back on topic, thats last word, anyone who strays next, gets banned. End of subject!

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so u guys got unbanned...off to hack some ones my space

i just tryed to Submit a New Story and it told me qj is still banned (but it was from the forums