TheMilkman has been unbanned and security resolutions.

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another worthless spam message by jordan...

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No need for your "worthless" spam either, so just leave me alone kkthxbye

If I were to do something physical, say send Mysticales anthrax in a letter, would I get free premium?

Wow Someone has a Vendetta against Jordan and is posting just as much useless Threads. From a Forum VIP Id expect more. But not to contribute to the useless spam ur contributing to. I Personally want to know if its gonna even be safe to log on this site now with "hackers" getting needless protection.

Who cares if TMM is unbanned? Some of you guys need to calm down. As Deturb said, We were living in hell wondering what TMM was going to do. Now, that Myst gave him a chance, he should stop it. If he does it again, not only he will hurt other people, He will hurt HIMSELF.

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jordan stop trying to be a victim, you were banned for 2 weeks because it wasn't your first offense... you all shouldn't worry, if anyone the staff has more of a job now...

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You're so ignorant.

Any ban prior to this one is subject to question. If a "hacker" can get away with hacking these forums, then saying "idiot" doesn't matter. First offence, second offence. It does not matter.

You've really set a nice precedent for further bans and past bans.

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Who cares if TMM is unbanned? Some of you guys need to calm down. As Deturb said, We were living in hell wondering what TMM was going to do. Now, that Myst gave him a chance, he should stop it. If he does it again, not only he will hurt other people, He will hurt HIMSELF.

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BS. Would you like to live in fear to see what I am capable of? Sadly, I'm not a lamer.

Hell? That wasn't hell. I've seen and I can create a far worser (not a word, I know) Hell than what you've witnessed thus far. See? This decision was based on fear. I rest my case.

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He will hurt HIMSELF.

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He's gonna turn emo?

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jordan stop trying to be a victim, you were banned for 2 weeks because it wasn't your first offense... you all shouldn't worry, if anyone the staff has more of a job now...

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Yes, because TheMilkman certainly isn't a repeat offender. Jordan IS a victim of double-standards. You can't deny that.

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another worthless spam message by jordan...

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Another worthless reply to spam.
if you don't like the spam, don't reply to it.....eventually it will stop!

And, just for the record, I believe that granting "The MilkMan" a stay of execution is just obsurd, he hacked the site, caused untold amounts of grief for many user's and is now allowed to freely roam the forum as if he is untouchable! that's just wrong and unfair to all the user's who obey the rule's, if I were a regular poster here I would feel betrayed, as it is I'm not so the resent events were no big thing to me, but I can see the point of many others who now have an axe to grind with The MilkMan.

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You're so ignorant.

Any ban prior to this one is subject to question. If a "hacker" can get away with hacking these forums, then saying "idiot" doesn't matter. First offence, second offence. It does not matter.

You've really set a nice precedent for further bans and past bans.



BS. Would you like to live in fear to see what I am capable of? Sadly, I'm not a lamer.

Hell? That wasn't hell. I've seen and I can create a far worser (not a word, I know) Hell than what you've witnessed thus far. See? This decision was based on fear. I rest my case.

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Not that I care if MM is unbanned or not. This is true, so the next time I get banned and I decide to launch a full-scale hack attack on qj.net, wil I get unbanned? Because thats the example thats seems to have been set.

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You're so ignorant.

Any ban prior to this one is subject to question. If a "hacker" can get away with hacking these forums, then saying "idiot" doesn't matter. First offence, second offence. It does not matter.

You've really set a nice precedent for further bans and past bans.



BS. Would you like to live in fear to see what I am capable of? Sadly, I'm not a lamer.

Hell? That wasn't hell. I've seen and I can create a far worser (not a word, I know) Hell than what you've witnessed thus far. See? This decision was based on fear. I rest my case.

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I agree i believe the judgement of his unbanned was out of pure Fear. aka retaliation for doing it. So I wonder if this shows some but not all like abe and Neil (very kool admins) are pushovers.

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There has never been a permanent permaban in the history of QJ.

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Strangler?

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Yeah, but he's a nice person underneath it all. You've got to give people a chance.

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Nice person or not, he hacked the forums. He deserves a ban equal to the severity of his violation. If people get banned for flaming, then they should be banned for hacking as well.

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Strangler?

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Technically that's not permanent because he just keeps making accounts.

Oh, wait. That's what TheMilkman did, and he's tolerated...

Well, seen has he ain't hacking no more, he could help secure the forums?

For the greater good.

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Who cares if TMM is unbanned? Some of you guys need to calm down. As Deturb said, We were living in hell wondering what TMM was going to do. Now, that Myst gave him a chance, he should stop it. If he does it again, not only he will hurt other people, He will hurt HIMSELF.

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Oh, yeah, he'll hurt himself. He'll just hack one more time before getting banned. He'll suffer no consequenses other than getting banned from a website that he had the pleasure of hacking more than once. Myst seems to be pretty vunerable to social engineering, so she (he?) is just letting TMM win...

PSPunk and Siouxsie have been banned from this thread.

ok this kid hacks the site and gets unban but i get a permban for mutiaccounts what the **** kinda **** is that ? thats just plan retarded :-(

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Well, seen has he ain't hacking no more, he could help secure the forums?

For the greater good.

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Right, because granting amnesty to a terrorist is a great step towards stopping terrorism.

oh and the mutiaccount was because i changed my account name not to try and hide something

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oh and the mutiaccount was because i changed my account name not to try and hide something

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What account are you referring to? If you wish to discuss anything, do so via PM with me, not in this thread.

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Right, because granting amnesty to a terrorist is a great step towards stopping terrorism.

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Yes.

Ok now Im pissed cause I had to come here and freaking post.

The simple fact is what you unbann this guy cause your scared what he might do. Oh so let just bow down to the ****er and give him more of a ego.

Not only should this result in a major bann but also legal action should be taken. Also who ever the webmaster is here need to start making sure forums are secure and keep up with lastest fixes and updates.

The simple fact is when did we start being pussies and bowing down to some bs so called hacker.

To me this make this site look even worse then it normallly does.

And thats all I have to say on that!

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Yes.

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What the flaming hell is wrong with you?

guys guys. chill ok?

i know a lot of u are pissed off but it was ur own fault for clicking that link, i did it, its my fault.

i knew the link looked suspiciuos simply by the file name, but i did it anyways.

as for TMM/ eternal cowboy being unbanned..... thats the staff decision, if u dont agree then leave. no-one keeps u here.

im not saying support their every move, but "ther greater good" comes into play.

we're only human at the end of the day.

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Yes.

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For that answer can i have ur name and addy so I can Personally come down to kick ur ass... I want you to say taht to the 3000 plus families that had lost ones killed on 9/11 and tell them they should forgive Osama Bin Laden.

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Ok now Im pissed cause I had to come here and freaking post.

The simple fact is what you unbann this guy cause your scared what he might do. Oh so let just bow down to the ****er and give him more of a ego.

Not only should this result in a major bann but also legal action should be taken. Also who ever the webmaster is here need to start making sure forums are secure and keep up with lastest fixes and updates.

The simple fact is when did we start being pussies and bowing down to some bs so called hacker.

To me this make this site look even worse then it normallly does.

And thats all I have to say on that!

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I don't think anyone will actually even read that, mainly because your speaking out of your ass, it isn't illegal what he did, and the administrators are trying to keep it secure, and if it looks worse, why post here in the first place? also, "And thats all I have to say on that!" does not make you look hard on these forums.

ok ,legal action when he used a proxy??

do u know what a proxy is child?

u cant sue a proxy server.


also, latest fixes and patches can feck a forum up.
it can effect skins and mods.

ive done it loads of times and i hate rebuilding skins and mods.

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guys guys. chill ok?

i know a lot of u are pissed off but it was ur own fault for clicking that link, i did it, its my fault.

i knew the link looked suspiciuos simply by the file name, but i did it anyways.

as for TMM/ eternal cowboy being unbanned..... thats the staff decision, if u dont agree then leave. no-one keeps u here.

im not saying support their every move, but "ther greater good" comes into play.

we're only human at the end of the day.

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Did you know u just told some of the higer respect developers to leave and none of us are stupid to lick the link... Its the principle here. There might not be a Qj.net to go to if its allowed and ppl are patted on the back for it. We are pretty much fighting for ppl to use this site.

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For that answer can i have ur name and addy so I can Personally come down to kick ur ass... I want you to say taht to the 3000 plus families that had lost ones killed on 9/11 and tell them they should forgive Osama Bin Laden.

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FreePlay, you made the comment in the first place, and Oriyen, i am actually quite correct, some criminals/terrorists stop doing crimes and turn around and get paid for helping the government police with their inquiries.

And no, you can't have my address.

first off
evilseph, he is a repeat offender, obviously he didn't learn his lessons with small bans, so we kick it up a notch so he will learn

2nd off, guys if you are so "worried" don't click suspicious links, I didn't click his link because I was suspicious, use your brain...

finally, the decision was made, deal with it...

if anything its more of a staff burden to watch him

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I don't think anyone will actually even read that, mainly because your speaking out of your ass, it isn't illegal what he did, and the administrators are trying to keep it secure, and if it looks worse, why post here in the first place? also, "And thats all I have to say on that!" does not make you look hard on these forums.

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Um it is illegal. He pretty much broke the qj.net agreement on the site which should result in a perma ban as well he went on ur comp to steal ur files. How do you know he didn't take just those cookies and not Credit card numbers and crap to steal ur identity. Im a Network Security Administrator trust me on this one. Besides acting as someone else itself is Identity theft.

Edit - Changed the EULA to agreement thansk Freeplay for pointing it out

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I don't think anyone will actually even read that, mainly because your speaking out of your ass, it isn't illegal what he did, and the administrators are trying to keep it secure, and if it looks worse, why post here in the first place? also, "And thats all I have to say on that!" does not make you look hard on these forums.

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Stop being an ass. Hacking into a private account and taking control of it could be seen as identity theft, which IS illegal.

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FreePlay, you made the comment in the first place, and Oriyen, i am actually quite correct, some criminals/terrorists stop doing crimes and turn around and get paid for helping the government police with their inquiries.

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Do you just not understand that granting amnesty to terrorists tells OTHER TERRORISTS that they can get away with terrorism?

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guys guys. chill ok?

i know a lot of u are pissed off but it was ur own fault for clicking that link, i did it, its my fault.

i knew the link looked suspiciuos simply by the file name, but i did it anyways.

as for TMM/ eternal cowboy being unbanned..... thats the staff decision, if u dont agree then leave. no-one keeps u here.

im not saying support their every move, but "ther greater good" comes into play.

we're only human at the end of the day.

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Maybe you should read the whole read before replying. Speak for yourself, I never clicked any link and am entitled to be pissed off about this terrible decision.

You sound like a little kid. You won't get far in life with that attitude. You get laid off from your job for no reason at all and you're not going to question why? You're just going to "leave" because you don't agree?

It's not easy getting a new job.

Please think before making pointless posts like the one I quoted.

The greater good? You people are blind. There are a few QJ members that I know can do far worse than the troll did. There is no greater good in pardoning a murderer (yes, it can be compared just fine, thanks). A confession in court leads to a less severe punishment, not amnesty.

If someone killed your family, pleaded guilty and was granted a pardon for being nice and honest, would you be happy?

Think about it.

Hahha I dont need to be hard. And you talking like that not knowing who I am, just shows that your talking out your ass. And yes it is illegal what he did. Know your internet laws before you speak.

Second it our fault for clicking the link that that saying it my fault I got blown up cause I open a mail bomb. Come on really? Are you serious?

These type of comments just show me why this place is so full of tards.

Oh and PS proxies doesnt stoop all just cause you use a proxy doesnt mean your cant be found. Once again show the lack of knowledge when talking on this subject.

Theres always a trail and it not that hard to follow to the source.

oryien on the internet I'm a system admin also, and a IT genius......

/sarcasm

and I rather have milkman expose these problems then someone malicious use them and steal your email, paypal, etc

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oryien on the internet I'm a system admin also, and a IT genius......

/sarcasm

and I rather have milkman expose these problems then someone malicious use them and steal your email, paypal, etc

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Oh, you mean like he stole several people's accounts? Hmm. The ETHICAL thing to do is TELL YOU that the exploits exist, not USE THEM to take over people's accounts. Jesus.

and if we are going to argue here, ill say that you should all have different passwords for each account you have...

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oryien on the internet I'm a system admin also, and a IT genius......

/sarcasm

and I rather have milkman expose these problems then someone malicious use them and steal your email, paypal, etc

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He stole and ban accounts, he might of done more that we don't know. How can you be on his side.
-= Double Post =-

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and if we are going to argue here, ill say that you should all have different passwords for each account you have...

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Do you understand, he never obtained the passwords, but used the cookies to access the accounts

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Oh, you mean like he stole several people's accounts? Hmm. The ETHICAL thing to do is TELL YOU that the exploits exist, not USE THEM to take over people's accounts. Jesus.

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Not to mention we've tried that a few times through staff members (because the word of a member doesn't seem to matter much) and nothings been done.

So I guess the lesson learned here is, security holes will only get fixed if they've been proven to exist.

Are you asking me to take down QJ just to open up your stubborn eyes to reality?

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and if we are going to argue here, ill say that you should all have different passwords for each account you have...

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WTF that makes no sense what so ever. I hate taking cheap shots @ qj.net staff but abe forgive me on this one as its the only time ill do it.

Are you like 12 Im a System Admin on the Inet. How the hell did you become a Forum moderator with a mentality of an adolescent. Your actually spamming stupid crap that makes no sense with no actually backing up to argue. I see it as ur just talking out ur ass more then helping contribute to the situation or giving a valid argument.