Metal Gear Solid 4

Ghost Babel was fun for handheld VR missions =].

Spoiler for Ending:

Fanservice, anyone? I remember Kojima saying that Big Boss was dead in an interview, but here he comes >_>

Oh well, it definitely cleared things up. I also like how Snake got to enjoy the few years he had left, though I don't see why he let Ocelot come, as the Foxdie would kill him anyways, like it did with Big Boss.

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Spoiler for Ending:

Fanservice, anyone? I remember Kojima saying that Big Boss was dead in an interview, but here he comes >_>

Oh well, it definitely cleared things up. I also like how Snake got to enjoy the few years he had left, though I don't see why he let Ocelot come, as the Foxdie would kill him anyways, like it did with Big Boss.

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What ending are you talking about? I never remeber that happening?

Spoiler for Spoiler:

Doesnt Snake shoot himself right away?

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What ending are you talking about? I never remeber that happening?

Spoiler for Spoiler:

Doesnt Snake shoot himself right away?

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Spoiler for Spoilers:

No, there's more cut scenes after the initial credits, if you watch it says the voice actors name for big boss, then it changes to a cut scene that begins with snake breathing extremely hard and fast on the ground.

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What ending are you talking about? I never remeber that happening?

Spoiler for Spoiler:

Doesnt Snake shoot himself right away?

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I don't think you watched the full ending, theres always scenes after the credits like the previous mgs games, and there was another talk after the full credits.

UPS tried to deliver my copy today but I must have been sleeping. :(

At least it gave me a chance to do some study.

Just some sleuthing i've been doing to dig deeper into the meaning of things.. :

Spoiler for 'Easter egg' videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc-K6wMBFkY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNoqJ8wVVyQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ8RRGYiCU4

from this we see that :

Spoiler for ;D:

Johnny from rat team 01 is actually the same guy you found outside the cell naked and unconcious, in mgs1, and the same guy who had the ****s and bumped into emma in mgs2.
Theres various other little gems in there that link directly to mgs4.. have a watch :)

Haha thanks for the videos!

Nev, if your not busy, do you think you could compile a full-on list of all the unlockables you've found? I dont mean things like battery extenders, but major stuff like the "stealth chip".

I NEED HELP!!!!

I started a new game (have already completed once) and I am "just" past Drebin but I dont have any of my weapons from my old save or any of my old drebin points. Whats wrong, how do I get them back.

PS I still have my old save named "act 5-ENDING

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I NEED HELP!!!!

I started a new game (have already completed once) and I am "just" past Drebin but I dont have any of my weapons from my old save or any of my old drebin points. Whats wrong, how do I get them back.

PS I still have my old save named "act 5-ENDING

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you need to LOAD that save, then you're presented with the difficulty setting menu, start from there.
starting a new game entirely doesn't retail your previous information (obviously)

Nearly finished act 1 with no alerts this time...i want the stealth chip!

Big Boss face camo: Successfully complete the game in Single Player mode on the hardest difficulty using no continues, instigating no alerts, killing no enemies (including Bosses), using no life recovery items, using no stealth suit or bandanna special items (can possess, but not activate), and with a completion time of less than 5 hours.

Isn't that impossible?

Nope, a few guys on Gamefaqs did it. I'm going to try after I complete a no kills playthrough on Big Boss hard.

Heh, I'll try it on my third playthrough or something.

The Rail Gun is ****ing awesome....

i've tried to put together all the MGS4 secrets/unlockables i've come across for anyone who's interested. :)

Spoiler for Spoilers - USE THEM:

Briefing Secrets..

Act 1 Briefing:

1) battery extender
2) ammo
3) shock : otacon, campbell, snake - gives Otacon face camo


Act 2 Briefing:

1) battery extender
2) shock : otacon, snake, sunny, the remote on the desk in the middle - gives Raiden (visor closed) face camo
shocking the remote puts 3 different idol model pictures on the main screen ;D


Act 3 Briefing:

1)1) 2x ammo at the front of the helicopter - nothing more here as far as i can tell

just noticed that while in the briefings go upstaris with the MK II and there's a few more items also u can see the doll/statues that u've collected. they'll be on display across from the PS3 and radio. also try hitting the radio to make it play

How to Unlock
Bandanna Complete a single-player session without killing anyone (including bosses). You can do this on any difficulty
Desert Eagle, Long Barrel Earn the Fox emblem on a single-player session
Digital Camera In the Nomad vehicle during the mission intermission; you can unlock a special photo by picking up this item in stage 4 instead of earlier
Patriot Future Assault Weapon Earn the Big Boss emblem on a single-player session
Race (Ricochet) Gun Clear the single-player game once
Scanning Plug S Log more than 10 hours of Metal Gear Online play time on the same profile as your Metal Gear 4 game. You purchase this from Drebin
Solar Gun Collect the five statues (those of the four Battle Beauties and the Frog Soldier/Haven Troopers in stage 1) using non-lethal means on their respective idols
Stealth Item Complete a single-player session without instigating a single alert (caution is okay, but not alert). You can do this on any difficulty
Thor 45-70 Earn the Fox Hound emblem on a single-player session
World War I Pistol Earn the Hound emblem on a single-player session


Completion Unlockables..

Unlockable How to Unlock
Big Boss Extreme difficulty Complete the single-player mode once (and saving the cleared data).
New combat vests Clear the single-player game once


Costumes..

Unlockable How to Unlock
Altair Obtain the Assassin emblem
Civilian Disguise Start Eastern Europe level
Middle East Militia Disguise Middle East in the Militia Safe House
South American Rebel Disguise South America (Cove Valley Village)
Suit Clear the game once


Facepaint..
Different face paint unlocked for in game use.

How to Unlock ..
Big Boss's Earn the Big Boss emblem on a single-player session
Crying Wolf Defeat the Battle Beauty (human form) Crying Wolf by non-lethal means.
Drebin Purchase and keep more than 60 different weapons.
FaceCamo Defeat the Battle Beauty Laughing Octopus (the overall battle, no specifics involved).
Laughing Octopus Defeat the Battle Beauty (human form) Laughing Octopus by non-lethal means.
Otacon Shock Dr. Emmerich using the Metal Gear II during the intermission scene.
Raging Raven Defeat the Battle Beauty (human form) Raging Raven by non-lethal means.
Raiden Mask A Shock Sunny using the Metal Gear II during the intermission scene.
Raiden Mask B Shock Dr. Naomi Hunter using the Metal Gear II during the intermission scene.
Roy Campbell Shock Colonel Campbell using the Metal Gear II during the intermission scene.
Screaming Mantis Defeat the Battle Beauty (human form) Screaming Mantis by non-lethal means.


iPod Tunes..
Snake's iPod can download specific tunes throughout the course of the game. Some songs have an additional "secret" effect when it is played in the game.

How to Unlock ..
Beyond the Bounds (increases stun damage done by Snake from non-lethal weapons) Stage 4 Shadow Moses, Tank Hangar. After power is restored, backtrack to the upper catwalk and explore all rooms
Big Boss (increase stun damage and increases Snake's accuracy when played) Earn the Big Boss emblem
Bio-hazard (cause soldiers held by Snake to scream in terror) Stage 3 Europe, Midtown
Destiny's Call (cause soldiers held by Snake to go enraged) A random gift from a militia or rebel soldier if Snake gives them a healing item
Flowing Destiny (cause soldiers held by Snake to weep like a little girl) Stage 4 Shadow Moses, Canyon. Before leaving the canyon area, examine the rocky walls for a hole hiding this item
Fury, The (cause soldiers held by Snake to go enraged) Stage 2 South America, Cove Valley Village. Inside the fire ravaged house
MGS 4 Love Theme / Action (cause soldiers held by Snake to weep like a little girl) A random gift from a militia or rebel soldier if Snake gives them a healing item
Opening - Old L.A. 2040 (increase Snake's accuracy) Stage 4 Shadow Moses, Nuclear Warhead Storage B2. Input 78925 into Otacon's lab computer
Policenaughts Ending (cause soldiers held by Snake to fall asleep on touch) Stage 4 Shadow Moses, Nuclear Warhead Storage B2. Input 13462 into Otacon's lab computer
Rock Me (increases Snake's amount of life recovered from items and other means) Stage 2 South America, Confinement Facility. Island in the south-eastern quadrant
Sailor (increases Snake's amount of life recovered from items and other means) Stage 2 South America, Vista Mansion. Between the east wall and a cargo container
Show Time (cause soldiers held by Snake to scream in terror) A random gift from a militia or rebel soldier if Snake gives them a healing item
Snake Eater (increase the life recovery rate of Snake through items and other actions) Unlocked by earning all 40 game clear emblems
Subsistence (increase Snake's accuracy) Play at least one game of Metal Gear Online. You must start the match with at least two players


New Ammo..
After finishing the game once, and getting back to drebin you can buy:

How to Unlock ..
Emotive ammo (cry) Finish game once
Emotive ammo (laughter) Finish game once
Emotive ammo (rage) Finish game once
Emotive ammo (scream) Finish game once
Smoke Grenade (blue) Finish game once
Smoke Grenade (green) Finish game once
Smoke Grenade (red) Finish game once
Smoke Grenade (yellow) Finish game once


Secrets
Inheritence
You carry over your Drebin points, weapons, ammunition, items, and special items from a previous game upon game clear. However, Snake will need to encounter Metal Gear II in the first stage to get his stuff back.

Be sure to save your cleared data upon game completion to track your items. Load the cleared data to reap your benefits.


No More Camo..
Shake the Sixaxis controller to return Snake's Octocamo to its neutral (black and blue) pigmentation.

Dolls/Statues..
The Laughing Octopus doll is on the bed in bottom left corner of the top right room.
The Raging Raven doll is at the top of the building.
The Crying Wolf doll is directly behind you when the Beauty battle/2nd phase starts.
The Screaming Mantis doll is in the northern alcove of the room.

Other Stuff..
Another Egg is when you are asked by Otacon to enter the password at Shadow Moses, if you type in 14893 (Drebin's codec) you will hear Little Gray screech and after wards, receive 100,000 DP.

In the Liquid Ocelot fight, when you reach the 'Naked Snake v. Ocelot' portion of the fight, Ocelot will pull Snake into a stangle hold and if you don't press anything Ocelot will kiss you.

upon following the footprints, u will eventualy see handprints...follow them 2 find the teams hand prints with there signiture next to them further on.

Also, in Act 2, when following the footprints, I came across a crop circle and a vocal flashback of Campbell saying "I was driving home. I had a couple of miles to go--I looked up and saw a glowing orange object in the sky,to the east! It was moving very irregularly...suddenly there was intense light all around me"

in act 1 in the very beginning the statues when you blend in with it you grab its penis and if you let go and go back to blending in with the statue it falls off..

if you call Rose on the codec and shake your controller, her boobs will move lol

sorry for the double post but i can't edit my original one for some reason..
i just wanted to make it clear that i found this info on various sites/forums etc
and thnx to Nevada for the breifing secrets..

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sorry for the double post but i can't edit my original one for some reason..
i just wanted to make it clear that i found this info on various sites/forums etc
and thnx to Nevada for the breifing secrets..

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You can edit your posts. You just can't read the Announcements or the stickies or my sig.

How do you get stuff in the Mission Briefings? I just sat back on the couch like Al Bundy watching them.

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How do you get stuff in the Mission Briefings? I just sat back on the couch like Al Bundy watching them.

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Switch to the MK II by pressing R2 button or Triangle button i can't remember, press select and it will show you, move around and get items and bump into some people ;)

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How do you get stuff in the Mission Briefings? I just sat back on the couch like Al Bundy watching them.

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yeah, u switch to MK II by pressing triangle then square (i think) then u can move around freely and find items etc..

just noticed that while in the briefings go upstaris with the MK II and there's a few more items also u can see the doll/statues that u've collected. they'll be on display across from the PS3 and radio. also try hitting the radio to make it play :)

@phil sorry about that. i should've read the announcments :)

Lol I love the Johnny the diarrhea guy.

And the ipod is neat too. Too bad u can't use ur own music w/ it.

Btw have u noticed that all the computers on the nomad are macs? And that during the 2nd mission briefing Sunny is playing a PSP (with apparently mario kart?) And when u control the mk. II Snake is holding a dualshock 3. I thought that was kinda cool.

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Spoiler for ;D:

Johnny from rat team 01 is actually the same guy you found outside the cell naked and unconcious, in mgs1, and the same guy who had the ****s and bumped into emma in mgs2.
Theres various other little gems in there that link directly to mgs4.. have a watch :)

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lol, you didn't get that from the fact that he was sh*ttin' himself? :p

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Lol I love the Johnny the diarrhea guy.

And the ipod is neat too. Too bad u can't use ur own music w/ it.

Btw have u noticed that all the computers on the nomad are macs? And that during the 2nd mission briefing Sunny is playing a PSP (with apparently mario kart?) And when u control the mk. II Snake is holding a dualshock 3. I thought that was kinda cool.

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Sunny's actually playing "Penguin Adventure," one of Kojima's first games.

I think the part she plays is around 4 min into this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T3woiAcaE0

Beat the game 4 times now, currently on Act 2 on Boss Extreme, so far no kills, no continues, no health, no using special items. So far so good on getting the Big Boss Emblem.

What are the special items, by the way?

Bandanna (infinite ammo) Stealth camo (invisible)

Uh, fight with Crying Wolf while trying to get no alerts is so god damn hard :Argh:

Spoiler for I guess this could be a spoiler for act 4:

I just finished playing as rex.... WOW that was awesome

1 more act to go :)

^^Yeah, that part was rape goodness.^^

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Uh, fight with Crying Wolf while trying to get no alerts is so god damn hard :Argh:

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Tranq all the guards and go under the truck, then snipe her in the head.

This would be better in act 5 imo:

Spoiler for act5:

where near the ending meryl and akiba are shooting, you get to control them for a bit, then control raiden with the sword and then return to snake, i dunno but that would be awesome.

I just can't stop playing this game! I hope kojima makes an MGS5.

I wont spoil it but the triangle buttoning at the end was so intense... I thought my finger was going to fall of near the end. But at the same time I keep telling myself, you CANT stop, the fate of the world depends on you :):):):)

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Uh, fight with Crying Wolf while trying to get no alerts is so god damn hard :Argh:

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lol im stuck at that part right now. The wolf keeps jumping out of nowhere on top of me. And the solid eye is no help either. THe farthest ive got is getting it slightly under half health with the grenade launcher.

Finally got around to playing this again (I've spent less than 6 hours playing this since launch...). Still playing act2, lol.

Spoiler for where I am:

Outside the mansion. Otacon says that the lab isn't too far away...

Spoiler for nomad stuff:

Extended battery for MG-Mk2 is on the plane under one of the tables in the first mission breifing... very, very useful

EDIT: FreePlay noted that there was a hint towards two more MGS games. I actually noticed that myself a few seconds go (paused the cutscene to post it). It's in

Spoiler for location:

The scene where you meet Naomi in the research lab, after she explains what happened to the soliders once they were freed from the system

I'm still on Act 2 as well. I haven't had much free time to play this unfortunately.

well i just managed to:

Spoiler for event:

stab vamp with the syringe. But now im stuck trying to kill all the geckos with the railgun. It sucks too because they keep self-destructing

Spoiler for Spoiler for how to help you fight those geckos:

Not sure if you know, but if you hold down L1, the small bar in the bottom left corner charges up, if you shoot those geckos straight through the head part, with a fully charged shot, it will kill them. I pretty much charged and shot at everything, was the easiest way. Or hide under Rex itself and shoot.

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Spoiler for Spoiler for how to help you fight those geckos:

Not sure if you know, but if you hold down L1, the small bar in the bottom left corner charges up, if you shoot those geckos straight through the head part, with a fully charged shot, it will kill them. I pretty much charged and shot at everything, was the easiest way. Or hide under Rex itself and shoot.

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yeah. but soon there are so many of them that it is hard to keep track. Plus sometimes they're behind the rubble which is super annoying.

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yeah. but soon there are so many of them that it is hard to keep track. Plus sometimes they're behind the rubble which is super annoying.

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Use your solid eye and set it to NV mode, that will make it easier to spot them, then fully charge the gun and shoot in the head, one shot one kill.

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Use your solid eye and set it to NV mode, that will make it easier to spot them, then fully charge the gun and shoot in the head, one shot one kill.

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mmkay. thanks. I guess this isn't really that hard. I just gave up after a couple tries and played MGO so i guess ill try again later.