You mean the most important part of a gaming console?Zitat:
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Right...
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You mean the most important part of a gaming console?Zitat:
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Right...
Welp, two posts made the point. I don't need to go back on that. Or if you're not convinced, look at the amount of homebrews the PSP has... as well as the number of games it's able to play.Zitat:
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Who here wants to play PS1 games on the go? I know I do.
And sincerely, PSP games are not that terrible. Why don't you take a look at stuffs like Coded Arms, Medal of Honors Heroes, MACH, BurnOut Dominator, etc... before you judge it?
Edit: I guess you're one of those people who don't want to try out new games from nameless studios? :rolleyes:
Last time I checked PS1 games counted towards it's gaming library just as PS1/2 titles count towards a PS3's gaming library. Just because a game is old doesn't mean it isn't as good as currently released games. Hell, they are better.Zitat:
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Also as for PSP games, take a look at ANY independent review site and you will see that PSP games consistently rank higher.
MetaCritic, for instance has ratings on 274 PSP games of which 0 are rated 90% or better, 48 over 80% and 17 under 50%
DS has 238 ratings of which 2 are rate over 90%, 34 over 80% and 35 under 50%
As percentages: PSP Games over 90%=0.0%, over 80%=17.5, under 50%=6.2%
As percentages: DS Games over 90%=0.8%, over 80%=14.3, under 50%=14.7%
MetaCritic brings together reviews from at least 5 sites before determining a score.
Then not to mention games like Crisis Core and God of War on their way. It isn't that it has "No Games", it's just that people these days are too damn picky and/or always have something to complain about. They don't realize that is does in fact have plenty of games.
Or they are just too addicted to minigames... (Flash fad!) and they haven't been able to get out of them yet. This is the problem with the next generation of gamers... they always prefer something they can finish quick... and can be recognized for (high scores?). These days, fame seems to be more important to minor gamers... than the feeling that the games create. :rolleyes: Give them a few more years... and it'll be different. Fast food cannot last you through your entire lifespan, can they?Zitat:
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Actually, yes, Resistance's online support is much better and faster than Gears Of War's. Much. Now, in terms of gameplay, hands-down Gears Of War. I don't get why you think the PS3 has bad online support... it doesn't have achievements, has more players (from what I've noticed). So it's not really horrible... you just don't get numbers on your little gamercard.Zitat:
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Silly me I thought you were refering to PS3 games. Not sure why anyone would spend $600 on a PS3 to play Duck Hunt with the sixaxis.Zitat:
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Upscaling non HD resoluiton to a 1080p doesnt do much and behind the 1920x1080 numbers on your screen is the same ugly 480p we come to know and love for years. I cant even paly PS2/PS1 games on my PS3 because everytime I try to I hear sony in my head laughing at me for spending $600 to paly games I already could on my PS2 :(
Basic on your logical the pc must be the best game consloe then since it has like all the emulators(most with online support), plugins to make the emulators play alot better, and can be portable.
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I agree.Zitat:
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Do you have a PS3?Zitat:
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If you do go check how many PS1 games are on the PS Store.
Of what relevance is this? x_XZitat:
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He was saying the fact you can play PS1 games makes it a better console.
I'm saying the fact you need a PS3 and there are like 20 games for $5 a pop means it doesn't.
I still miss your point...Zitat:
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You can buy the disc from a store, or, you can download them from the PS Store... I'm missing what you're getting at.
Mister Chief do you just go around the PS3 forums flaming the console?
PS3 online service is terrible. I have like 30 or so friends on my list yet have only played with one online. Why is that? Because when im online in resistance I have no idea who's online or doing what. The only time I played with someone on my friend's list was because we keep in contact via windows live messneger on our pcs. We shouldnt have to do that.Zitat:
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How can you flame an object?Zitat:
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I'm sorry if calling a spade a spade is flaming.
That's true, I suppose. Resistance's online play is still better than Gears, BUT Microsoft's general online setup is just much better.Zitat:
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No idea why this is relevant at all... but if you insist.Zitat:
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Yes I do. Have had it since early December.
Running TVersity Media Server at the moment too so I can stream my MP3's to my Sony DAV-HDX500 5.1 Surround Sound Home Theater System. You should see the smile on my girlfriends face as I crank up the volume for "Margaritaville", which oddly is one of her all time Favs seeing how we are only in our early 20's.
I have also checked the PS1 titles, yes... every game isn't on there, but neither are the ones for Nintendo's VC and oddly, you never complain about that now do you? Are you also aware that they are "Regularly Updated"??? This means more are coming... such as "Symphony of the Night" which I mentioned.
My games are ok, I admit it, but MLB 07, MLB 2k7, Resistance, Oblivion and Pirates of the Caribbean have provided more than enough fun to justify my purchase too. Did I mention I have a Netflix account too? I use that to rent a constant stream of Blu-Ray movies so me and my Family can watch TV together?
Not sure what your intentions are but you seem to find every little way to bash the PS3. If you don't like it... well, why are you wasting your time posting in it's respective forum?
Care to question anything else about me? I have plenty of answers.
PSN is far from terrible, your just used to the unity that is Live. I have enjoyed many hours in R:FOM and that is mainly because of how fun the online is. You do know that it has an integrated friends list right, ie: you can look at and contact anyone from your list in an XMB style list. I guess you haven't played it for a while....Zitat:
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Spoiler for ingame friends list:
I'm not going to argue with you since we don't think of consoles the same way.Zitat:
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And as a mod shouldn't you be keeping a thread like this which has gone completly off topic in line?
Fixed so you dont sound foolish.Zitat:
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Well, I gave my personal opinion on the PS3 and it's library of games and you questioned my ownership of the device, clearly trying to state that I know not of which I speak.Zitat:
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I may be a Mod, but that does not mean I can not respond to someone questioning my intelligence.
I wish not to argue either, but i'm just saying you have no right to question my intelligence like you just did.
Now we will go back to topic and if you have anything else to say please contact me via PM.
You're out of line. If you have a problem with any post of any member here, use the Notify Mod button and it will be looked into.Zitat:
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Euphoria is speaking the truth and his opinion on the topic at hand, if you have a problem with that, send a PM to him.
PS - Eurhoria - Ricky Henderson?
Im use to xbox live, yes. But I was hoping PSN would be at least half as good as it. Cant do much multi tasking with the PS3. The PSN store is a joke. Why give us trailers of movies that came out in stores 2 months ago? Where are all the good demo's at amd good PSN titles? How long must we play the waiting game?Zitat:
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This pretty much confirms the fact that eitherZitat:
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A) You dont own a gaming pc or xbox 360
or
B) You havent played a good fps yet.
Cool I didnt know they added that, too bad now with all the fps games I have there isnt a point to boot up Resistance. I tried to play with my friends online when I first got it was a pain playing telephone tag just to play online with each other =/ So I never played it again after that and dont plan on ever playing it.Zitat:
You do know that it has an integrated friends list right, ie: you can look at and contact anyone from your list in an XMB style list. I guess you haven't played it for a while....
Spoiler for ingame friends list:
So all your points on this game are moot at this point then. R:FOM has a huge online community and there is always a ton of people online. New maps being added and patches that make the experience better.Zitat:
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Let's just agree to disagree, K.
Back on Topic,
Ok let me get this a bit back on topic..
First of all, i dont see any store selling the PS3 $200 cheaper as the topic creator says.
And also this topic should die because well the topic creator is basically saying, he deserves something in return because the console went down $100 and also because of that 5 blu-ray movies thing.
Thats like saying, oh I got my 4GB memory stick for my PSP at its initial relealse for $250, and now because its been more than a year and it costs around $100 if not cheaper, I think they should send me something to recompensate that.
You pay the price for buying technology at a certain TIME, so your telling me people who bought the PS2 when it first released should now be getting stuff because the new slimer PS2 is smaller and the price is $150...
...this is a horrible topic
Correct, this topic applies to all consoles. However, I feel that this should stay open because I think the PS3 was the first console to drop it's price in such a short amount of time. It does need to stay on topic but if there's nothing more to say on this matter then just let it die.
Exactly, and i jsut re-read my post, and it just sounds like a five year old wrote it, the topic is so dumb its hard to put in words how ridiculous it is.
But hey! the topic creator can look at the bright side
You have an older FirmWare hehe...:p
No its not you cant compare a memory stick to the PS3. Memory sticks, pc equipment and that kind of stuff got down in price all the time whereas consoles dont(not this soon anyway). The best thing to compare it to would be the 360 but that didnt get a price drop and has been out longer. Yet you didnt use the 360 as a example I wonder why?Zitat:
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Price drop isnt the the big issue its the fact they get a PS3 $100 off and $150 worth of blu ray movies while people who spent more get nothing. If you spent $300 on a PS2 and a month later it was $200 and came with 3 free $50 games you would be upset too.Zitat:
You pay the price for buying technology at a certain TIME, so your telling me people who bought the PS2 when it first released should now be getting stuff because the new slimer PS2 is smaller and the price is $150...
@ sinfulfate
well sed
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Oh excuse me but how can I use the 360, as an example when there console has a 33% failure rate and they had to dish out a 1 Billion dollar investment to give users a 3 year warranty, I ihhgly doubt they can afford a price drop.Zitat:
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And they have no 3 SKU's teh Core, the Premium, and the Elite, I highly doubt you can drop all 3 with the same amount.
Also...to answer your second point, sure I would be upset, but its business, and thats the sacrafice and risk you take. I mean sure it doesnt seem fair, but honestly, you think someone deserves something for having the satisfaction of having the consoleat launch and up until today, and all the time spent with it and enjoyment it gave you while others were wating for months for a price drop or something.
And its not a complete price drop, the 60GB model is out of production and they just droped the price for it to sell it as quick as possible to get it out of there hair as soon as possible and mkae way for the new 80GB...which is cheaper for them to produce and makes more profit, well since, its only 20GB more in the memory, and motorstorm included int he package, OH AND DONT FORGET they removed the Emotion Chip(used for hardware emulation of PS2 and PS1 games, now they will have to be powered by software emulation) out of the 80GB models...
Ghost Rider is hardly all the trailers. With demos, Ninja Gaiden, Armored Core, Rub a dub, ridge racer, lemmings, there are a bunch of good ones.Zitat:
Im use to xbox live, yes. But I was hoping PSN would be at least half as good as it. Cant do much multi tasking with the PS3. The PSN store is a joke. Why give us trailers of movies that came out in stores 2 months ago? Where are all the good demo's at amd good PSN titles? How long must we play the waiting game?
And this pretty much confirms the fact that you view your opinion as law.Zitat:
This pretty much confirms the fact that either
A) You dont own a gaming pc or xbox 360
or
B) You havent played a good fps yet.
As Brad said, "Get off your high horse."
There wasn't lag before the server update, which was when the feature was added. This pretty much confirms the fact that you haven't touched it in a long time. The only time there was lag was about a week after the update, then everything went back to normal.Zitat:
Cool I didnt know they added that, too bad now with all the fps games I have there isnt a point to boot up Resistance. I tried to play with my friends online when I first got it was a pain playing telephone tag just to play online with each other =/ So I never played it again after that and dont plan on ever playing it
I don't think he ment lag, i think he ment that he needed to phone his friends quite a few times just to get a game set up.Zitat:
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But what about someone who spends $600 on a PS3 to play more than just Duck Hunt? I mean the entire game library as a whole... not a single game.Zitat:
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480p? I guess... you don't have a 1080p HDTV/monitor? Or is it that you own one of those PAL consoles? Upscaling on PAL consoles is almost non-existent... or so I've heard. :rolleyes: If you ask me, I'd think that my PS3 games are upscaled as well... or maybe the difference between using a component cable set and an HDMI cable set is really that drastic.Zitat:
Upscaling non HD resoluton to a 1080p doesnt do much and behind the 1920x1080 numbers on your screen is the same ugly 480p we come to know and love for years. I cant even paly PS2/PS1 games on my PS3 because everytime I try to I hear sony in my head laughing at me for spending $600 to paly games I already could on my PS2 :(
That's true though. Now... when the PS2 emulation gets better, you'll be able to play PS2 games on the go... and when the PS3 emulation starts, what happens? Doesn't the PC steal its entire game library from consoles? :rolleyes:Zitat:
Basic on your logical the pc must be the best game consloe then since it has like all the emulators(most with online support), plugins to make the emulators play alot better, and can be portable.
By the way, at the moment, the PS3 still has an edge over PC: PS2 games upscaled (and it's not just the normal 480p to 1080p upscale... for the last time.). I'm a graphics whore... so that's enough.
Well, considering it's less than 8 months after, he's got more of a complaint.Zitat:
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Most consoles take 1-2 years to drop in price. The PS3 took a little more than half a year. There's a difference there. If this happened NEXT July, it would be a non-issue, but most people spent $600 on this machine just 6-7 months ago, and now people are getting it $100 cheaper, PLUS $150 worth of extra content that early adopters didn't get...
That's a $250 swing. That, sir, is not comparable to the PS2, in any way.
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You dont understand though...
The reason there is a "price drop" was because they discontinued 60GB model production. They did it so they can, in a quicker pace, get rid of all the 60GB models left, and make way for the newer 80GB models they are introducing.
So its more of a clearance sale when you look at it in that way.
I understand your points very well, and yes the 5 blu-ray movies are another reason to truely complain, and yes my PS2 analogy was a bit over exagerated and out of place.
But the thing is, the industry is changing... no one wants to lose the console war, and new tactics are in use, obviously.
You have to understand this is a business, and with business there is always a dirty side.
Wrong. Usually it's the market leader that takes that long. The people that have to play catch up usually drop sooner. Xbox dropped 6 months after launch, same with the Gamecube.Zitat:
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Why they did it, or what there motivation was is irrelivant. That doesn't change the fact that they just made alot of early adopters feel cheated. I'm not saying a price drop wasn't needed, but once again, that's completely irrelivant.Zitat:
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And, Like I said, my personal beef isn't with the price drop. It's not getting those free blu-ray's. For me, atleast, a person who will be picking up a 1080p set in the very near future, those 5 free movies could make me a very happy person... Especially when Blu-Ray movies are in the $30 area.
Hey I should be getting my own PS3 some time about now (Im currently using a freind who doesnt like it much so he just plays my 360)
If it makes you feel better, ill send you the 5 Blu-Ray movies I get if i decide to the the whole rebate offer thing, because quite frankly i dont even really care too much about it.
Or whever eles would help you get the movies....
DUDE, I'm all over that :DZitat:
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Only problem is, assuming you bought it after June 1st, you need to have the receipt (or at least a copy), and the Proof of Purchase from the box.
Like i said lol, im going to be buying one sometime now hopefully, and since its past June lol i think i qualify.
If anything ill get the movies, probably not even watch them anyway, so I guess ill just give it to someone, since its not even worth a bother selling them for anything.
Arent PS2/PS1 games displayed in 480p native(or 480i)? I don't understand what your trying to say. I have a 1200p monitor to be exact. Upscaling non HD games to 1080p doesnt make much of a difference I doubt they look any better than they do on a PS2 via component. And no PS3, games dont get upscaled might want to get your eyes checked.Zitat:
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Not really.Zitat:
That's true though. Now... when the PS2 emulation gets better, you'll be able to play PS2 games on the go... and when the PS3 emulation starts, what happens? Doesn't the PC steal its entire game library from consoles? :rolleyes:
If your a graphics whore I would think you would want a machine that has the best possible graphics(a PC). I dont see how the PS3 has a edge because PS2 games look better. PS2 games look better on a PS2 than they do on a pc but I dont see the PS2 having a edge over the PC.Zitat:
By the way, at the moment, the PS3 still has an edge over PC: PS2 games upscaled (and it's not just the normal 480p to 1080p upscale... for the last time.). I'm a graphics whore... so that's enough.
So can I assume you like your 360 better than your PS3 since all 360 games are in 1080p?
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