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**emcp** · 08-15-2008, 03:10 PM

anyway here it is
http://sceners.org/PS3Zone.php

nick48 · 08-15-2008, 03:18 PM

Pointless, unless you already have blu-ray discs and the burner. (I think)
It is cheaper to actually buy the game.

EDIT: This guy is part of Team ICE, don't believe it until I see more proof.

**tryagain277** · 08-15-2008, 03:27 PM

Here's the forum article from ps3hax :/

Spoiler for ARTICLE:

Quote:

Originally Posted by PS3HAX

The video shows:

- Warhawk running from HDD

- no PKG version

- no WH disc while WH is running

- Motorstorm running as proxy disc

- legal way

I wont explain the details here till the project is finished 100%, also cuz many devs want to take a look at first and not get it patched that fast. I can say that if all will work like I want it to you'll need:

- game dump of the game you want to play from HDD (possible you need a special one)

- one (any) original bd game

- 2x minimum 60GB HDD's (illegal way - it worx but its not allowed in most countrys - its working like a packed game on psp memory stick)

OR

-1 60GB HDD + original disc (legal way - no need to be inserted while playing)

Im using newest firmware PAL 60GB SKU. 3 games tested yet - working.
Games which should be possible from the knowledge i got yet:

- Warhawk
- Motorstorm
- Resistance
- GT5
- COD3
- ...

I cant check more atm, as I dont have else here. The final way will be a bit different than the video shows. Even there are 2 different ways then to do it, thats because there are 2 different groups of games. One can be done with 1 HDD but then you need the original disk of the game.

all in all its a hack for rich ppl as you need to have 2 big HDD's to store all games on it, which you want to play. 2 games would require actually about 50-100GB on both HDD's. if you have much space on pc hdd thats no prob as you can just backup and rewrite the data on HDD's.

i dont support piracy, this is just to safe your disks

THIS VIDEO IS JUST A PROOF OF CONCEPT - NOT A FINISHED PROJECT!!!

that means:

- proof that disk games can run from hdd without having the disk in drive

download the video here:

http://www.nera-studios.eu/ps3.MOV

better quality vid will come when i get new hdd + repaired hdtv. the clicking which sounds like keyboard typing in the background is just the cam auto focus.

I hope you see theres no hidden PKG (game list is shown), no hidden disk (i insert motorstorm). At the end of the video i just wanted to show its no test unit --> watch the settings.

Sorry for bad TV quality, my HDTV just exploded and i need to use SDTV for 2 weeks now

if there are any questions, you can ask but i dont say ill answer all.

***UPDATE***

dont ask stupid questions which are already answered on teh forum or in the mainpost, thanks!

In my opinion.... This isn't happening...

xploren · 08-15-2008, 03:30 PM

-_- You expect us to believe this? :/ We're not that dumb.

**Mister Chief** · 08-15-2008, 03:39 PM

PS3hax + no proof = fake.

I'm closing this.

**FreePlay** · 08-15-2008, 03:45 PM

Not fake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alek

We can confirm that it's for real, although it's still under a Proof of Concept state.

Reopened.

Sceners.org is a blog site where a few notable PSP devs post... including Alek and Mathieulh.

xploren · 08-15-2008, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreePlay

Not fake.

Reopened.

Sceners.org is a blog site where a few notable PSP devs post... including Alek and Mathieulh.

D:

Are you ****ing serious? This is real?

**FreePlay** · 08-15-2008, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathieulh

Yes it is real, yes I know how it has been done, No it is NOT convenient to use at all.
Finally it only works with a few games, it can easely be fixed by sony in any future firmware update, and of course it wont allow anyone to run any kind of unsigned code.

Yep.

xploren · 08-15-2008, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreePlay

Yep.

OMFG. ****ing breakthrough. A real exploit for once. D:

**FreePlay** · 08-15-2008, 04:03 PM

And I think I've got it figured out, too... maybe. At least, the basics.

xploren · 08-15-2008, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreePlay

And I think I've got it figured out, too... maybe. At least, the basics.

... Go on...

**FreePlay** · 08-15-2008, 04:10 PM

Maybe if I figure something out.

xploren · 08-15-2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreePlay

Maybe if I figure something out.

... Uh... okay. Sure.

So, did anybody else confirm this? Other than Mathieulh and Alek.

**emcp** · 08-15-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Pointless, unless you already have blu-ray discs and the burner. (I think)
It is cheaper to actually buy the game.

EDIT: This guy is part of Team ICE, don't believe it until I see more proof.

i bet you feel like a **** now, lol

trust me i wouldnt have posted it if i wasnt sure it was real, ofcourse i wasnt 100% but seeing it came from Sceners.org, i took it as being real

anyway, i didnt get the whole thing about 2 hdd/ps3s,
they did mention being able to run on 1 ps3, so i guess if you get a large enough HDD, it may well be covenant
but then again it will get patch

i really and truly do not want a backup loader for the ps3, however i truly want full homebrew access, shame that most of the time they come hand in hand
anyway unable to run unsigned code... a well

i wonder if they may be able to find something within the patching operation of the game

Quote:

... Uh... okay. Sure.

So, did anybody else confirm this? Other than Mathieulh and Alek.

its being kept under wraps for now, thank god
why is it if an exploit is found its normally broadcasted everywhere
anyway there no point in doubting Mathieulh or Alek

its real, and comforting.... but also scary lol

Savagefreak · 08-15-2008, 04:51 PM

Oh **** yeah.
I would love to see how this has been done.

**Vee** · 08-15-2008, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eldiablov

Considering people are struggling with reading files from a local directory and the fact that the hypervisor oversees what's going on an iso loader probably will never happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vee

Never say never.

Good work, hope something better comes out of this then a NES emulator.

As for anyone whos going on like this is bad, it isnt. The worse thing this could cause is devs not making games for the platform, but that wont happen even if this is released, as the people that have the ability to do this will be about 2% of the PS3's community, meaning Sony and devs wont be losing that much money.

Look at the PSP for example, its doing fine even though ISO loaders are available on every firmware version.

**mohaas05** · 08-15-2008, 05:18 PM

I don't get how this works?

**afiser** · 08-15-2008, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohaas05

I don't get how this works?

they dont tell you.

**Extreme_Dude23** · 08-15-2008, 05:29 PM

God damn, seems Team ICE has vindicated themselves...

Can't wait.

Trouble_Child · 08-15-2008, 05:34 PM

Obviously.

**FreePlay** · 08-15-2008, 05:42 PM

Yep, I was essentially right about how it works (I've been asking around), though I'm too lazy to bother testing it out

It's surprisingly simple but clever.

Apparently I'd need a second HDD, anyways...

**Sir_Axxewraith** · 08-15-2008, 05:45 PM

haha, Your like Nevada.

You'll say something that leaves us wondering.
Soon enough you'll leave us a big riddle with lots and lots of colours :|

xploren · 08-15-2008, 05:47 PM

Too much like Nevada...

**reaperchad** · 08-15-2008, 05:52 PM

I have no interest whatsoever for an iso loader, or even a backup loader...if there is a difference. I rather just play homebrew.

xploren · 08-15-2008, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaperchad

I have no interest whatsoever for an iso loader, or even a backup loader...if there is a difference. I rather just play homebrew.

Maybe developers can make their homebrew so it can be loaded with the ISO loader. Don't make me feel any more stupid then I feel right now, please.

**reaperchad** · 08-15-2008, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xploren

Maybe developers can make their homebrew so it can be loaded with the ISO loader. Don't make me feel any more stupid then I feel right now, please.

Do you know how the PS3's ISO loader works right now? I presume it runs official code off the hd not homemade (do to the lack of public info I can't confirm this.) So, obviously if we found an exploit that would allow the ISO loaders to run unsigned code then maybe, but there would be other ways to run it if that happened.

**mohaas05** · 08-15-2008, 07:22 PM

there better not be an ISO loader coming out of this.

xploren · 08-15-2008, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaperchad

Do you know how the PS3's ISO loader works right now? I presume it runs official code off the hd not homemade (do to the lack of public info I can't confirm this.) So, obviously if we found an exploit that would allow the ISO loaders to run unsigned code then maybe, but there would be other ways to run it if that happened.

Again, please...

**PSPHax0r9** · 08-15-2008, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreePlay

Yep, I was essentially right about how it works (I've been asking around), though I'm too lazy to bother testing it out

It's surprisingly simple but clever.

Apparently I'd need a second HDD, anyways...

Woohooo Swaploit!!!

And lol, "backups."

**FreePlay** · 08-15-2008, 08:10 PM

Thing is, unless you've got two HDDs and really good timing, you'll need the original disc.

08-15-2008, 03:10 PM	#1
emcp Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 176 Trader Feedback: 0	PS3 Backups running from HDD anyway here it is http://sceners.org/PS3Zone.php

08-15-2008, 03:18 PM	#2
nick48 No longer a community member. Join Date: Dec 2007 Real First Name: Nick Location: Toronto Posts: 0 Trader Feedback: 0	Pointless, unless you already have blu-ray discs and the burner. (I think) It is cheaper to actually buy the game. EDIT: This guy is part of Team ICE, don't believe it until I see more proof. Last edited by nick48; 08-15-2008 at 03:21 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

08-15-2008, 03:39 PM	#5
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08-15-2008, 04:03 PM	#10
FreePlay Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: h0000000rj Posts: 12,858 Trader Feedback: 0	And I think I've got it figured out, too... maybe. At least, the basics. __________________ [qj now fails.]

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FreePlay Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: h0000000rj Posts: 12,858 Trader Feedback: 0	Maybe if I figure something out. __________________ [qj now fails.]

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xploren No longer a community member. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2 Trader Feedback: 0	-_- You expect us to believe this? :/ We're not that dumb.

08-15-2008, 04:51 PM	#15
Savagefreak No longer a community member. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nederland Posts: 3 Trader Feedback: 0	Oh **** yeah. I would love to see how this has been done.

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Extreme_Dude23 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Broker, Liberty City Posts: 485 Trader Feedback: 0	God damn, seems Team ICE has vindicated themselves... Can't wait.

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Trouble_Child Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1 Trader Feedback: 0	Obviously.

08-15-2008, 05:42 PM	#21
FreePlay Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: h0000000rj Posts: 12,858 Trader Feedback: 0	Yep, I was essentially right about how it works (I've been asking around), though I'm too lazy to bother testing it out It's surprisingly simple but clever. Apparently I'd need a second HDD, anyways... __________________ [qj now fails.]

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Sir_Axxewraith Proper Brootal Like. Join Date: Aug 2006 Real First Name: Josh Location: Manchester, England Just Played: with myself. Posts: 2,382 Trader Feedback: 0	haha, Your like Nevada. You'll say something that leaves us wondering. Soon enough you'll leave us a big riddle with lots and lots of colours :\|

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xploren No longer a community member. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2 Trader Feedback: 0	Too much like Nevada...

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