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**Nismobeach** · 10-12-2007, 01:39 PM

http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?p=59485#59485

It's a bit technical, but it looks like a few of the devs have finally figured out how to gain limited access to the RSX under Linux thanks to a security hole in the hypervisor.

IMO, if Sony doesn't block this with a future firmware update we could potentially start seeing some really cool stuff emerge from PS3 Linux in the next year or so.

**AzureBlack** · 10-12-2007, 01:40 PM

Interesting. Nice find.

**THEAVS** · 10-12-2007, 01:43 PM

Zomg Iso's!!!!111!!!!!1111!!!! 1

**FranzH** · 10-12-2007, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Same thing on the reports buffer. It starts with:
0x0000: 13 37 c0 d3 13 37 ba be 13 37 be ef 13 37 f0 01, etc..
(looks like some guys at Sony or IBM have humor...)

Haha, if that was not on purpose then wow what's the chances :P

**AzureBlack** · 10-12-2007, 01:51 PM

That had to be on purpose...

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEAVS

Zomg Iso's!!

Can you just NOT be a moron and post something relevant? With this new step way may see some interesting developments on the way.

**FranzH** · 10-12-2007, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzureBlack

That had to be on purpose...

I guess they knew people were going to be able to get that far then.

**mohaas05** · 10-12-2007, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FranzH

Haha, if that was not on purpose then wow what's the chances :P

i dont get it...

**AzureBlack** · 10-12-2007, 01:58 PM

13 37 c0 d3 13 37 ba be 13 37 be ef 13 37 f0 01

Let's see, can you read 1337?

Leet code leet babe leet beef leet fool

OF COURSE it's on purpose.

**user friendly** · 10-12-2007, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohaas05

i dont get it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismobeach

It's a bit technical, but it looks like a few of the devs have finally figured out how to gain limited access to the RSX under Linux thanks to a security hole in the hypervisor.

How limited?

**FranzH** · 10-12-2007, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohaas05

i dont get it...

0x0000: 13 37 c0 d3 13 37 ba be 13 37 be ef 13 37 f0 01, etc..

=

1337 CODE 1337 BABE 1337 BEEF 1337 F001(fool)

Edit: LMAO UF!

Edit2: Damn Azure wrote it before me. Forgot to refresh page

**AzureBlack** · 10-12-2007, 02:00 PM

Ha, got it before all of ya.

**mohaas05** · 10-12-2007, 02:01 PM

ok. u see where i come from people speak with letters.

**bmfgeorgin2** · 10-12-2007, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzureBlack

That had to be on purpose...

Can you just NOT be a moron and post something relevant? With this new step way may see some interesting developments on the way.

like?

**Nismobeach** · 10-12-2007, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by user friendly

How limited?

I think it has something to do with RAMIN access in the RSX, but after rereading that part of the thread I could have been mistaken with my initial assertion.

**Mister Chief** · 10-12-2007, 02:32 PM

We need Nevada.

**Nismobeach** · 10-12-2007, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmfgeorgin2

like?

Emulators with access to 3D acceleration, open source Linux games with full access to the PS3's resources, access to RSX RAM for general computing tasks, Compiz Fusion, the ability to use the 360's HD-DVD add-on under Linux, etc etc. The sky's the limit at this point.

As an aside, this could potentially be GREAT news for those who end up buying a 40GB PS3 and still want to play their PS2 games on the same system.

**Skyline34** · 10-12-2007, 03:23 PM

Absolutely, If you have a system with no BC, PCSX2 could benefit from RSX access

**mohaas05** · 10-12-2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismobeach

Emulators with access to 3D acceleration, open source Linux games with full access to the PS3's resources, access to RSX RAM for general computing tasks, Compiz Fusion, the ability to use the 360's HD-DVD add-on under Linux, etc etc. The sky's the limit at this point.

As an aside, this could potentially be GREAT news for those who end up buying a 40GB PS3 and still want to play their PS2 games on the same system.

is there a PS2 emu for ppc linux? and i dont get the 40gb no ps2 thing because i thought ps2 emu is done by software now?

**Davee** · 10-12-2007, 04:03 PM

It was only done partually by software. There was another chip (not Emotion Engine) in the old models that did it.

**FranzH** · 10-12-2007, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohaas05

i dont get the 40gb no ps2 thing because i thought ps2 emu is done by software now?

It is done by Software on SKUs without the EE, however the new 40GB one will have no EE or GS thus eliminating it being able to play PS2 games without full emulation(as i understand anywho).

**mohaas05** · 10-12-2007, 04:10 PM

isnt ps1 emulation fully software?

**Adiuvo** · 10-12-2007, 04:20 PM

Yes.

**Realn0whereman** · 10-13-2007, 07:43 AM

I dont get why sony cut software emu of ps2 games... its just software, which means it shouldnt hurt production costs...

**Adiuvo** · 10-13-2007, 07:57 AM

There were two PS2 chips inside the PS3, the GS and EE. EE was removed a while ago, but now the GS is removed from the 40 gig. It never was fully software.

Savagefreak · 10-13-2007, 08:18 AM

OMG ISOz!!1
not

**RunawayPrisoner** · 10-14-2007, 12:11 AM

Wow... "limited access"?

More like limited memory space for commands. Up to 1.93 and we can still map that area of the memory, I think... Sony is going to announce 3D acceleration for Linux soon. They would not just leave that out in the open without a reason... or maybe they did do that to make us find it (hence the 13 37 code) and use it. Kind of a good way to motivate the developer community, I guess. Heck, I could spend my entire day of coding (actually, more like sending commands back and forth) just to find that... and I'll satisfyingly laugh my ass off.

Edit: No ISO, guys. It doesn't mean we can break out of OtherOS into GameOS and then magically run something. It just means we can speed up video processes in Linux... and maybe... with a bit of luck, we can trigger some limited 3D modes in Linux.

**HippyG** · 10-14-2007, 02:15 PM

PS3 is looking more tempting...

ArcticZero · 10-14-2007, 05:50 PM

Can anyone say Beryl on Linux on the PS3?

**Nismobeach** · 10-14-2007, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticZero

Can anyone say Beryl on Linux on the PS3?

I think you meant to say Compiz Fusion.

**RunawayPrisoner** · 10-14-2007, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticZero

Can anyone say Beryl on Linux on the PS3?

Ehh... no.

The available memory is much too... small for something like Beryl. Then again, a software 3D renderer will do the trick just as well. One SPE on the PS3 is really comparable to a very high-speed GPU... something like a GeForce 3.

10-12-2007, 01:39 PM	#1
Nismobeach Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 182 Trader Feedback: 0	Breakthrough! RSX access in Linux! http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?p=59485#59485 It's a bit technical, but it looks like a few of the devs have finally figured out how to gain limited access to the RSX under Linux thanks to a security hole in the hypervisor. IMO, if Sony doesn't block this with a future firmware update we could potentially start seeing some really cool stuff emerge from PS3 Linux in the next year or so.

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AzureBlack Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,141 Trader Feedback: 0	Interesting. Nice find. __________________ [URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8316/meeri2.jpg[/IMG][/URL] To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today. -Isaac Asimov

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AzureBlack Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,141 Trader Feedback: 0	13 37 c0 d3 13 37 ba be 13 37 be ef 13 37 f0 01 Let's see, can you read 1337? Leet code leet babe leet beef leet fool OF COURSE it's on purpose. __________________ [URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8316/meeri2.jpg[/IMG][/URL] To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today. -Isaac Asimov

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