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**cyanide** · 11-17-2006, 12:43 PM

Ask your questions here and me or one of the others will try to answer them to the best of our ability

I will keep adding the questions and answers into this single post so that it can act as good reference material.. Let the questioning begin!

Download these things:
OtherOS Installer - http://dl.qj.net/click.php?pid=111&fid=11328
Sony PS3 Linux Addon Disc - http://dl.qj.net/PS3-Linux-Addon-Dis...1308/catid/514
Fedora Core 5 PPC DVD:
-----> Bittorrent - http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/tor...VD-ppc.torrent
-----> HTTP - http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fed...-5-ppc-DVD.iso
-----> HTTP Mirrors - http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/mirrors.html

Installation tutorial - http://ps3.qj.net/PS3-Linux-The-void...g/49/aid/73144

More details and documents - http://dl.qj.net/Documents-for-Linux...1259/catid/514

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Is it/Will it be possible to install Windows or Windows games using Wine or Cedega and playing them on the PS3?
No and No. I'll explain...
Windows is mainly developed for x86 and x86-64 processors, the ones which are used in our PCs. The x86 or x86-64 are known as instruction sets. Similarly, the PS3's processor is a PowerPC processor. There is no way you will be able to install Windows on your PS3. No matter what anybody tells you, it's currently not possible, and do not expect to see that anytime. Onto games and Wine, again, it's simply not possible. Two reasons - Lack of graphics card drivers means that your games won't run, and if they do, it will be a slideshow

. Secondly, again, Wine and Cedega is incompatible with the PowerPC architecture. Their code contains some assembly code which is specific to the x86 arch, and as such, there's no builds for other arches.

After installation and rebooting the PS3, all I see is a command line with a kboot prompt. How do I get a GUI interface?
Type in startx to load the X GUI interface. You will either see have Gnome or KDE.

I am confused about one thing. If PowerPC Linux works, would it be possible to install OSX with OtherOS Installer?
Linux works because drivers for the PS3 have been made. AFAIK, OSX-PPC development is pretty much dead. If you don't have drivers, you can't run the OS, simple as that.

I also would like to know if Fedora Core 5 is the only distro you can install. I like Kubuntu a lot more.
Fedora Core 5 and Gentoo are confirmed working. Other distros should work fine though it will take a little experimentation.

Also should it matter if the distro is for 32 bit ppc or 64 bit ppc like gentoo?
Unlike the x86/x86_64 arch, there isn't a distinction in the PPC arch. I'm not too familiar with it so I won't go into much detail, but suffice to say that all PPC Linux distros will work. The source for the stuff inside the Addon CD has been released and it has already been possible to install Gentoo using this method.

Is it possible to brick your PS3 by doing something through Linux? Such as putting a Emulator or somthing on there?
No.

Also. I plan to transfer the Bootloader and installation files, transfering them to my PSP, then using the Mem Stick Pro Duo (w/ files on it) to install it. Will it work?
Should be fine.

Do I have to have a USB Mouse and Keyboard to use linux?
The answer depends on what you want to do with it. For command line only, a keyboard should be fine. But for most people here, yes, you should use a mouse since you will be working in a GUI environment.

How do I make the partitions on my 60gb playstation 3?
Settings -> System Settings

How do i erase the partitions in the Hard Disk and go back to default?
As above. Just delete the partitions and create them again.

Will "restore default settings," erase everything (all the files) from the Hard Disk?
Probably not. That would mean that your savedata would be deleted too, which isn't something you want to do.

Changing Resolution:
Edit /etc/kboot.conf using any editor and add a special parameter at the end of the kernel line:

linux="/boot/vmlinux-2.6.16 initrd=/boot/initrd.img video=ps3fb:mode:3"

Here's the full list of mode-ids
0: auto mode , default value
YUV 60Hz 1:480i 2:480p 3:720p 4:1080i 5:1080p
YUV 50Hz 6:576i 7:576p 8:720p 9:1080i 10:1080p
RGB 60Hz 33:480i 34:480p 35:720p 36:1080i 37:1080p
RGB 50Hz 38:576i 39:576p 40:720p 41:1080i 42:1080p
VESA 11:WXGA 12:SXGA 13:WUXGA

Just change the mode:X to reflect your resolution's mode-id. Reboot and it should use the new resolution settings. Give me a holler if it doesn't. I'll look for alternatives.

**CA$HMON3Y** · 11-17-2006, 12:46 PM

take some pics of it running!

**TeamOverload** · 11-17-2006, 12:47 PM

I'm sure someone will ask: "Where do you get the files necessary for it?". Personally, I know where, but I think you should add it

**cyanide** · 11-17-2006, 12:48 PM

Dude, pics will take a few more hours...I'm gonna ****ing bury UPS :\

**TeamOverload** · 11-17-2006, 12:54 PM

They are mailing a PS3 to you? Where did you buy it from?

**cyanide** · 11-17-2006, 01:07 PM

It's a Jap version. I'm not the one getting it, someone else. But it's within the QJ network

I'll probably buy one as soon as I can cough up enough cash..lol

**Jonny202003** · 11-17-2006, 09:58 PM

I cant seem to get it running :/ i followed all the instructions, i formatted one partition for ps3 and one for the otheros and after the system resets i insert the usb stick with the ps3 folder and files on it, i hit install otheros, it shows up, but then i hit x and the screen goes blank, and it wont go past that.

**psp093** · 11-17-2006, 10:17 PM

I have linux installed everywhere, my nano and my furture PS3. Can't wait. Thanks for the links and all.

**Jonny202003** · 11-17-2006, 10:23 PM

nevermind i got past that part but i got a new problem. Is this right it says "installing fedora core rpms. please wait about 2 hours."

heres a screeny too http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2...ture002zl3.jpg

EDIT: sorry im just a little impatient and jumpy lol, now its getting somewhere

**cyanide** · 11-17-2006, 10:33 PM

Good luck!

**Jonny202003** · 11-18-2006, 09:24 AM

sweet, i finally got it up and running. I didn't know that firefox came already installed with the linux os lol.

New question, how would i install a linux application, like aim, vlc player, etc. i have the linux version aim and vlc player files on my computer but not on the PS3. Could someone possibly write a step by step tutorial? i've looked for some online but i couldn't quite understand it.

A big note to QJ about the tutorial they made about installing it, I thought they meant i would have to partition one half for my ps3 then click on partition for other os afterwards but if you do that it wont work properly or at all for that matter. So i had to do a restore ps3 system or whatever that option was and then i ONLY clicked on allot 10gb for other os. If you click allot 10gb for ps3 and allot 10gb for other os it wont work at all, so ONLY click on allot 10gb for other os.

**cyanide** · 11-18-2006, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonny202003

A big note to QJ about the tutorial they made about installing it, I thought they meant i would have to partition one half for my ps3 then click on partition for other os afterwards but if you do that it wont work properly or at all for that matter. So i had to do a restore ps3 system or whatever that option was and then i ONLY clicked on allot 10gb for other os. If you click allot 10gb for ps3 and allot 10gb for other os it wont work at all, so ONLY click on allot 10gb for other os.

Thanks for the input...I'll make sure that the frontpage is updated.

**the_darkside_986** · 11-18-2006, 10:12 AM

Has anyone made any homebrew for PS3 linux or tried any emulators yet?

**cyanide** · 11-18-2006, 10:14 AM

Please keep the actual discussion in another thread. Make one if you have to. I'd prefer it if this thread was there to only ask for help, or clarify something specific.

**PSPHax0r9** · 11-18-2006, 10:23 AM

I am confused about one thing. If PowerPC Linux works, would it be possible to install OSX with OtheerOS Installer?

**cyanide** · 11-18-2006, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSPHax0r9

I am confused about one thing. If PowerPC Linux works, would it be possible to install OSX with OtheerOS Installer?

Linux works because drivers for the PS3 have been made.

AFAIK, OSX-PPC development is pretty much dead. If you don't have drivers, you can't run the OS, simple as that.

merovin · 11-18-2006, 02:46 PM

Hi,

I installed fedora on my PS3 and it starting to boot in the command line, how do you make it boot into the gui environment?

Thanks

**Jonny202003** · 11-18-2006, 03:09 PM

if it stops and says kboot:

type startx

then enter root as the username, and the password you chose before, after it stops u may have to type startx again

Heres a picture of the linux OS Desktop workin on my ps3

**sam_w** · 11-18-2006, 03:26 PM

is fedora 5 the only os you can install on ps3 atm or does the ppc version of debian and fedora 6 work etc. because i heard that fedora is crap

**TeamOverload** · 11-18-2006, 03:43 PM

That is awesome! Have you tried running any emulators or anything?

**The_Kills** · 11-18-2006, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamOverload

That is awesome! Have you tried running any emulators or anything?

Its more of a ask questions for technical help.....kinda thread

**TeamOverload** · 11-18-2006, 03:58 PM

I'm asking the person who actually tried it and got it working. I'm sure we would all like feedback about it.

**Inuyasha986** · 11-18-2006, 05:56 PM

How do you get the internet to work? I've installed Linux but i can't seem to get on the internet with it. Any Answers? Also how do you change the resolution cause it wont let me. Also how to install programs? I've tried installing linux programs or ppc programs but no go.

**Networkgamer** · 11-18-2006, 08:12 PM

i also would like to know if fedora core 5 is the only distro you can install.I'd like kubuntu a lot more.

**cyanide** · 11-18-2006, 10:57 PM

Currently, you can surely install Fedora Core 5 and Gentoo. I'm in talks with the Gentoo guy to get some proper instructions

.

Apart from those two, I don't see why other distros shouldn't work. It's just a matter of someone giving it a go and documenting it properly.

**Jonny202003** · 11-19-2006, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inuyasha986

How do you get the internet to work? I've installed Linux but i can't seem to get on the internet with it. Any Answers? Also how do you change the resolution cause it wont let me. Also how to install programs? I've tried installing linux programs or ppc programs but no go.

Funny thing is im actually posting this post in the mozilla firefox browser on the linux os on my ps3 lol

as for the internet, go to system>administration>net work and click new to setup up a new connection

**Networkgamer** · 11-19-2006, 01:28 AM

also should it matter if the linux is for 32 bit ppc or 64 bit ppc like gentoo?

**Ciaran_** · 11-19-2006, 02:00 AM

I assume its the 64bit version you want as the PPC in the cell is 64bit.

**cyanide** · 11-19-2006, 02:07 AM

Yep, unlike the x86/x86_64 arch, there isn't a distinction in the PPC arch. I'm not too familiar with it so I won't go into much detail, but suffice to say that all PPC Linux distros will work. The source for the stuff inside the Addon CD has been released and it has already been possible to install Gentoo using this method.

**Jonny202003** · 11-19-2006, 09:00 AM

is fedora really that incompatible? i havent managed to be able to install anything at all, but then again the day i got my ps3 was the first time ive ever seen linux running or used it so i have no idea what to do lol, but i found a guide online for installing and when i try to install stuff its always missing a damn codec or files or somethin. I cant even play mp3s, it says i dont have a codec for it lol

11-17-2006, 12:43 PM	#1
cyanide Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: meh Posts: 2,799 Trader Feedback: 0	PS3 Linux FAQ thread Ask your questions here and me or one of the others will try to answer them to the best of our ability I will keep adding the questions and answers into this single post so that it can act as good reference material.. Let the questioning begin! Download these things: OtherOS Installer - http://dl.qj.net/click.php?pid=111&fid=11328 Sony PS3 Linux Addon Disc - http://dl.qj.net/PS3-Linux-Addon-Dis...1308/catid/514 Fedora Core 5 PPC DVD: -----> Bittorrent - http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/tor...VD-ppc.torrent -----> HTTP - http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fed...-5-ppc-DVD.iso -----> HTTP Mirrors - http://fedora.redhat.com/Download/mirrors.html Installation tutorial - http://ps3.qj.net/PS3-Linux-The-void...g/49/aid/73144 More details and documents - http://dl.qj.net/Documents-for-Linux...1259/catid/514 ______________________ Is it/Will it be possible to install Windows or Windows games using Wine or Cedega and playing them on the PS3? No and No. I'll explain... Windows is mainly developed for x86 and x86-64 processors, the ones which are used in our PCs. The x86 or x86-64 are known as instruction sets. Similarly, the PS3's processor is a PowerPC processor. There is no way you will be able to install Windows on your PS3. No matter what anybody tells you, it's currently not possible, and do not expect to see that anytime. Onto games and Wine, again, it's simply not possible. Two reasons - Lack of graphics card drivers means that your games won't run, and if they do, it will be a slideshow . Secondly, again, Wine and Cedega is incompatible with the PowerPC architecture. Their code contains some assembly code which is specific to the x86 arch, and as such, there's no builds for other arches. After installation and rebooting the PS3, all I see is a command line with a kboot prompt. How do I get a GUI interface? Type in startx to load the X GUI interface. You will either see have Gnome or KDE. I am confused about one thing. If PowerPC Linux works, would it be possible to install OSX with OtherOS Installer? Linux works because drivers for the PS3 have been made. AFAIK, OSX-PPC development is pretty much dead. If you don't have drivers, you can't run the OS, simple as that. I also would like to know if Fedora Core 5 is the only distro you can install. I like Kubuntu a lot more. Fedora Core 5 and Gentoo are confirmed working. Other distros should work fine though it will take a little experimentation. Also should it matter if the distro is for 32 bit ppc or 64 bit ppc like gentoo? Unlike the x86/x86_64 arch, there isn't a distinction in the PPC arch. I'm not too familiar with it so I won't go into much detail, but suffice to say that all PPC Linux distros will work. The source for the stuff inside the Addon CD has been released and it has already been possible to install Gentoo using this method. Is it possible to brick your PS3 by doing something through Linux? Such as putting a Emulator or somthing on there? No. Also. I plan to transfer the Bootloader and installation files, transfering them to my PSP, then using the Mem Stick Pro Duo (w/ files on it) to install it. Will it work? Should be fine. Do I have to have a USB Mouse and Keyboard to use linux? The answer depends on what you want to do with it. For command line only, a keyboard should be fine. But for most people here, yes, you should use a mouse since you will be working in a GUI environment. How do I make the partitions on my 60gb playstation 3? Settings -> System Settings How do i erase the partitions in the Hard Disk and go back to default? As above. Just delete the partitions and create them again. Will "restore default settings," erase everything (all the files) from the Hard Disk? Probably not. That would mean that your savedata would be deleted too, which isn't something you want to do. Changing Resolution: Edit /etc/kboot.conf using any editor and add a special parameter at the end of the kernel line: linux="/boot/vmlinux-2.6.16 initrd=/boot/initrd.img video=ps3fb:mode:3" Here's the full list of mode-ids 0: auto mode , default value YUV 60Hz 1:480i 2:480p 3:720p 4:1080i 5:1080p YUV 50Hz 6:576i 7:576p 8:720p 9:1080i 10:1080p RGB 60Hz 33:480i 34:480p 35:720p 36:1080i 37:1080p RGB 50Hz 38:576i 39:576p 40:720p 41:1080i 42:1080p VESA 11:WXGA 12:SXGA 13:WUXGA Just change the mode:X to reflect your resolution's mode-id. Reboot and it should use the new resolution settings. Give me a holler if it doesn't. I'll look for alternatives. Last edited by cyanide; 11-28-2006 at 10:00 AM..

11-17-2006, 12:47 PM	#3
TeamOverload Rock Star FamousLastX Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CT\| FW: 4.01 M33-2 Posts: 11,844 Trader Feedback: 0	I'm sure someone will ask: "Where do you get the files necessary for it?". Personally, I know where, but I think you should add it __________________

11-17-2006, 12:54 PM	#5
TeamOverload Rock Star FamousLastX Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CT\| FW: 4.01 M33-2 Posts: 11,844 Trader Feedback: 0	They are mailing a PS3 to you? Where did you buy it from? __________________

11-17-2006, 01:07 PM	#6
cyanide Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: meh Posts: 2,799 Trader Feedback: 0	It's a Jap version. I'm not the one getting it, someone else. But it's within the QJ network I'll probably buy one as soon as I can cough up enough cash..lol Last edited by Steve Ballmer; 11-17-2006 at 01:07 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

11-18-2006, 09:24 AM	#11
Jonny202003 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 255 Trader Feedback: 0	sweet, i finally got it up and running. I didn't know that firefox came already installed with the linux os lol. New question, how would i install a linux application, like aim, vlc player, etc. i have the linux version aim and vlc player files on my computer but not on the PS3. Could someone possibly write a step by step tutorial? i've looked for some online but i couldn't quite understand it. A big note to QJ about the tutorial they made about installing it, I thought they meant i would have to partition one half for my ps3 then click on partition for other os afterwards but if you do that it wont work properly or at all for that matter. So i had to do a restore ps3 system or whatever that option was and then i ONLY clicked on allot 10gb for other os. If you click allot 10gb for ps3 and allot 10gb for other os it wont work at all, so ONLY click on allot 10gb for other os. Last edited by Jonny202003; 11-18-2006 at 09:24 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

11-17-2006, 12:46 PM	#2
CA$HMON3Y Join Date: May 2006 Location: Detroit, MI! Bia Bia!! Posts: 1,391 Trader Feedback: 0	take some pics of it running!

11-17-2006, 12:48 PM	#4
cyanide Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: meh Posts: 2,799 Trader Feedback: 0	Dude, pics will take a few more hours...I'm gonna ****ing bury UPS :\

11-17-2006, 09:58 PM	#7
Jonny202003 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 255 Trader Feedback: 0	I cant seem to get it running :/ i followed all the instructions, i formatted one partition for ps3 and one for the otheros and after the system resets i insert the usb stick with the ps3 folder and files on it, i hit install otheros, it shows up, but then i hit x and the screen goes blank, and it wont go past that.

11-17-2006, 10:17 PM	#8
psp093 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 409 Trader Feedback: 0	I have linux installed everywhere, my nano and my furture PS3. Can't wait. Thanks for the links and all.

11-17-2006, 10:23 PM	#9
Jonny202003 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 255 Trader Feedback: 0	nevermind i got past that part but i got a new problem. Is this right it says "installing fedora core rpms. please wait about 2 hours." heres a screeny too http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2...ture002zl3.jpg EDIT: sorry im just a little impatient and jumpy lol, now its getting somewhere

11-17-2006, 10:33 PM	#10
cyanide Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: meh Posts: 2,799 Trader Feedback: 0	Good luck!

11-18-2006, 10:12 AM	#13
the_darkside_986 Developer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 262 Trader Feedback: 0	Has anyone made any homebrew for PS3 linux or tried any emulators yet? __________________ http://openpandora.org/

11-18-2006, 10:14 AM	#14
cyanide Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: meh Posts: 2,799 Trader Feedback: 0	Please keep the actual discussion in another thread. Make one if you have to. I'd prefer it if this thread was there to only ask for help, or clarify something specific.

11-18-2006, 02:46 PM	#17
merovin Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1 Trader Feedback: 0	Hi, I installed fedora on my PS3 and it starting to boot in the command line, how do you make it boot into the gui environment? Thanks

11-18-2006, 03:09 PM	#18
Jonny202003 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 255 Trader Feedback: 0	if it stops and says kboot: type startx then enter root as the username, and the password you chose before, after it stops u may have to type startx again Heres a picture of the linux OS Desktop workin on my ps3 Last edited by Jonny202003; 11-18-2006 at 03:09 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

11-18-2006, 03:26 PM	#19
sam_w Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kent, England Posts: 56 Trader Feedback: 0	is fedora 5 the only os you can install on ps3 atm or does the ppc version of debian and fedora 6 work etc. because i heard that fedora is crap

11-18-2006, 03:43 PM	#20
TeamOverload Rock Star FamousLastX Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CT\| FW: 4.01 M33-2 Posts: 11,844 Trader Feedback: 0	That is awesome! Have you tried running any emulators or anything? __________________

11-18-2006, 03:58 PM	#22
TeamOverload Rock Star FamousLastX Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CT\| FW: 4.01 M33-2 Posts: 11,844 Trader Feedback: 0	I'm asking the person who actually tried it and got it working. I'm sure we would all like feedback about it. __________________

11-18-2006, 05:56 PM	#23
Inuyasha986 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 72 Trader Feedback: 0	How do you get the internet to work? I've installed Linux but i can't seem to get on the internet with it. Any Answers? Also how do you change the resolution cause it wont let me. Also how to install programs? I've tried installing linux programs or ppc programs but no go. Last edited by Inuyasha986; 11-18-2006 at 07:01 PM..

11-18-2006, 08:12 PM	#24
Networkgamer Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 921 Trader Feedback: 0	i also would like to know if fedora core 5 is the only distro you can install.I'd like kubuntu a lot more. __________________ my ps3 sn is Networkgamer,add me. [spoiler="Donators Galore!"]100,000 - Pspfanatic[/spoiler] [SPOILER="For people that play PSPR"]http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=109506 for the compitition[/SPOILER]

11-18-2006, 10:57 PM	#25
cyanide Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: meh Posts: 2,799 Trader Feedback: 0	Currently, you can surely install Fedora Core 5 and Gentoo. I'm in talks with the Gentoo guy to get some proper instructions . Apart from those two, I don't see why other distros shouldn't work. It's just a matter of someone giving it a go and documenting it properly.

11-19-2006, 01:28 AM	#27
Networkgamer Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 921 Trader Feedback: 0	also should it matter if the linux is for 32 bit ppc or 64 bit ppc like gentoo? __________________ my ps3 sn is Networkgamer,add me. [spoiler="Donators Galore!"]100,000 - Pspfanatic[/spoiler] [SPOILER="For people that play PSPR"]http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=109506 for the compitition[/SPOILER]

11-19-2006, 02:00 AM	#28
Ciaran_ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 4,226 Trader Feedback: 0	I assume its the 64bit version you want as the PPC in the cell is 64bit.

11-19-2006, 02:07 AM	#29
cyanide Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: meh Posts: 2,799 Trader Feedback: 0	Yep, unlike the x86/x86_64 arch, there isn't a distinction in the PPC arch. I'm not too familiar with it so I won't go into much detail, but suffice to say that all PPC Linux distros will work. The source for the stuff inside the Addon CD has been released and it has already been possible to install Gentoo using this method.

11-19-2006, 09:00 AM	#30
Jonny202003 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 255 Trader Feedback: 0	is fedora really that incompatible? i havent managed to be able to install anything at all, but then again the day i got my ps3 was the first time ive ever seen linux running or used it so i have no idea what to do lol, but i found a guide online for installing and when i try to install stuff its always missing a damn codec or files or somethin. I cant even play mp3s, it says i dont have a codec for it lol

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