gentoo help

[geterman]

I have installed gentoo with KDE. And it looks like a suped up command prompt. I there a way that I can look like YDL, I do not know how to function by entering commands and stuff.

[blade47167]

You sure your in KDE and not fluxbox? KDE looks and runs almost like windows :S

[asong26]

Originally Posted by geterman

I have installed gentoo with KDE. And it looks like a suped up command prompt. I there a way that I can look like YDL, I do not know how to function by entering commands and stuff.

You probably don't have your default xsession defined. Do you basically get a command console, and a small window on the top left w/ with 4 buttons? Also, if you press the 'left' mouse button, do you get a menu with basic stuff like x-term, etc...,?

If so, you for got to modify your rc.conf file. Do this:

In the command prompt, type in: nano -w /etc/rc.conf
This should open up the file we need to modify. Scroll all the way down, and at the very bottom, you should see this line:

# XSESSION="fluxbox"

First, remove the "#" from that line. Also, replace fluxbox with kde-3.5. If you've installed kde correctly, then this should work. If not, you haven't installed kde, or installed it correctly (very difficult to do, since emerge will install everything for you, including dependencies". Don't worry about getting this wrong. In case, kde isn't installed, xsession will bring you back to where you are right now, which is 'default' session. And if kde is not installed correctly, you can do it again in the 'default' session.

I hope this helps.

[geterman]

I tried that before and it still came up as fluxbox. I'll try it again and see what happens. can anyone send me a pic of how KDE is supposed to look?

[woolyninja]

Originally Posted by geterman

I tried that before and it still came up as fluxbox. I'll try it again and see what happens. can anyone send me a pic of how KDE is supposed to look?

KDE 3.4 screenshots

[blade47167]

Should say XSESSION="kde-3.5"

If you have emerged kde. Change it to that.

[asong26]

Originally Posted by geterman

I tried that before and it still came up as fluxbox. I'll try it again and see what happens. can anyone send me a pic of how KDE is supposed to look?

I am exactly sure how you've installed kde. Do this command and tell us what you see:

ls /etc/X11/Sessions

If KDE is indeed installed, you should kde-3.5 show up. Here's what mine says:

Xsession fluxbox kde-3.5

If you don't see kde-3.5, and you are absolutely sure that you've installed it, the do: emerge -C kdebase

Then do emrege -v kdebase (if you want a local compile)

Or

do: emerge -vG kdebase (pre-compiled version)

I hope this is helpful to you.

[geterman]

Thanks guy I got it to work. I didn't have KDE installed and I had to add the Xdm file. But when the I logged into KDE my "root" password will not work. I says Root logins are not allowed. So I had to make my another account but I can't install anything with it. How Can I fix this?

this is what I typed in to get my new password

useradd -m -G users,wheel,audio -s /bin/bash jay

[cyanide]

Open /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
Change the line containing "AllowRootLogin"

This line must be uncommented and must be set to true.

# Allow root logins?
AllowRootLogin=true

[geterman]

Originally Posted by cyanide

Open /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
Change the line containing "AllowRootLogin"

This line must be uncommented and must be set to true.

# Allow root logins?
AllowRootLogin=true

Do I do it like this:
nano -w /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc

When I did that the file was blank so I added:
# Allow root logins?
AllowRootLogin=true

and nothing happened. I am a Noob to this stuff. Thanks.

[asong26]

There's something definitely wrong with how you've installed Gentoo. You shouldn't even have to worry about getting a root login. Everything should work by default, as long as you have the stage4 tarball installed correctly.

I would recommend, that you re-install gentoo from scratch.

Since you're a noob, I am sure this will be helpful to you:

When you try to re-install, and get to the point of

fdisk /dev/sda

make sure you delete all existing partitions from your previous install by pressing 'D' and enter. It will ask you which partition you want to delete. type '2' enter. Then, type 'D' enter again. This time default should be automatically selected.

Now type 'D' enter again. And it should complain that you have no partitions defined.

From here, follow the rest of the install directions starting with 'P' enter. If you attempt to re-install without re-partitioning and formatting, you could run into some issues....

Goodluck.

[geterman]

OK, I'll try that, but the root password works fine everywhere else except JDE login. Like one of the options at the KDE login screen that takes me to this command prompt DOS black screen, I can login as root there, then type startx and it takes me to fluxbox.

[geterman]

OK, i reloaded everything from scratch and I still says that "Root login is not allowed". I was able to login as a user I created but it doesn't have administrative rights. But once login in an I try to change anything it asks for the root password and it works???

One other thing, when I finished installing KDE this message was at the bottom of the script:

* IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /usr/kde/3.5/share/config need updating.
* Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files.

/kdm/.cfg0000_kdmrc

How do i go about accomplishing this?

[skymansxeno]

I need help with gentoo as well. Do I absolutly have to have internet hook up to my ps3 to do this? I can't have good line line hook up at my house only dial up so I won't get the internet out there (wireless is too expensive also). I will get to the part when it ask to load the tar stage4 file but can I load it with it on a usb device? I also saw that at the end there is more internet needed in the instructions.

If I have too I guess it will be yellow dog 5 for now.

Thanks!

[asong26]

You can load it with the USB. You'll just have to mount it.

Evey machine may be different... Try this:

connect your usb drive to a PC with a faster connection (may be at work?), and then download the stage4 tar file onto the usb drive. Connect the USB drive to your PS3, and then right before the step where you download the tar ball do this:



mkdir /mnt/usb
mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt/usb

type: ls /mnt/usb (puts some filees in the usb to verify)


"/dev/sdf1" is the device location for usb mass storage devices as defined by my PS3 using my USB Drive, just they the linux will recognize your internal hard drive as /dev/sda or a partion as /dev/sda1. If all gentoo distros treat the USB drives the same way, this should work for you.

And then, at the install step where it says:

cd /mnt/gentoo
wget http://........

replace it with:

cd /mnt/gentoo
cp /mnt/usb/tarball....tar.bz2 .

'tarball....tar.bz2' is the name of your tarball that you've downloaded.

This should copy the tar ball which you've downloaded and placed on the usb drive to where it needs to be. Follow the rest of the directions.
-= Double Post =-

Originally Posted by geterman

OK, i reloaded everything from scratch and I still says that "Root login is not allowed". I was able to login as a user I created but it doesn't have administrative rights. But once login in an I try to change anything it asks for the root password and it works???

One other thing, when I finished installing KDE this message was at the bottom of the script:

* IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /usr/kde/3.5/share/config need updating.
* Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files.

/kdm/.cfg0000_kdmrc

How do i go about accomplishing this?

I have no idea why this is happening to you. There shouldn't be any issues. Go back to the wiki and carefully examine every single step, such as modifying /etc/rc.conf file as well as creating a root password at the right install step. Also, make sure you've set this command before rebooting (during the install):

rc-update add xdm default

If your rc.confi file has been modified to have fluxbox as default XSESSIONL

XSESSIONS="fluxbox" <---- without the '#' in front.

everything should work. Once you verify that fluxbox is up and running, w/ no root login issues. Then you should install kde.

I am sorry I can't help you any further, since I have no idea which install steps you may be skipping, or not doing it right....

[skymansxeno]

Okay, I already got the tar on my usb. I couldn't figure out how to load from the usb. So this helps a lot.

There is also a part at the end of the instructions I am using that says:

Installing GRP packages ¶
Note: Due to a number of bugs in the current stable version of portage, you must use at least portage-2.1.2-rc4-8 to install GRP over the network. If you do not have this version of portage, you should add 'sys-apps/portage ~ppc' or 'sys-apps/portage ~ppc64' to your /etc/portage/package.keywords file and then 'emerge -u portage'. In the release of 2.1.2-r1, there will also be at least one fix in the dependency resolution of binary packages.
Our GRP packages are currently hosted on three sites:
• http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/gentoo-ps3/
• http://ftp-atl.osuosl.org/pub/gentoo-ps3/
• http://ftp-chi.osuosl.org/pub/gentoo-ps3/
Edit /etc/make.conf ¶
To begin using GRP packages, you must tell portage about the repository by adding a refernce to it in your /etc/make.conf file. Depending on your location and whether you are 32 or 64-userland, you would add something like this to your make.conf:
PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://ftp-chi.osuosl.org/pub/gentoo-ps3/grp32/All/"
FEATURES="parallel-fetch"
Installing packages ¶
To install a GRP file, you simply pass the -g flag to emerge. For example, to install xfce4 you would:
# emerge -G xfce4
With GRP installs, you might differences in the dependency resolution of the -G and -g switches. Consider trying both before performing the install the see the differences.

I don't even know what this is all about and if it is neccesary or not. What do I do at this point if I can only use a USB.

Thanks a bunch by the way.

[asong26]

Originally Posted by skymansxeno

Okay, I already got the tar on my usb. I couldn't figure out how to load from the usb. So this helps a lot.

There is also a part at the end of the instructions I am using that says:

Installing GRP packages ¶
Note: Due to a number of bugs in the current stable version of portage, you must use at least portage-2.1.2-rc4-8 to install GRP over the network. If you do not have this version of portage, you should add 'sys-apps/portage ~ppc' or 'sys-apps/portage ~ppc64' to your /etc/portage/package.keywords file and then 'emerge -u portage'. In the release of 2.1.2-r1, there will also be at least one fix in the dependency resolution of binary packages.
Our GRP packages are currently hosted on three sites:
• http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/gentoo-ps3/
• http://ftp-atl.osuosl.org/pub/gentoo-ps3/
• http://ftp-chi.osuosl.org/pub/gentoo-ps3/
Edit /etc/make.conf ¶
To begin using GRP packages, you must tell portage about the repository by adding a refernce to it in your /etc/make.conf file. Depending on your location and whether you are 32 or 64-userland, you would add something like this to your make.conf:
PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://ftp-chi.osuosl.org/pub/gentoo-ps3/grp32/All/"
FEATURES="parallel-fetch"
Installing packages ¶
To install a GRP file, you simply pass the -g flag to emerge. For example, to install xfce4 you would:
# emerge -G xfce4
With GRP installs, you might differences in the dependency resolution of the -G and -g switches. Consider trying both before performing the install the see the differences.

I don't even know what this is all about and if it is neccesary or not. What do I do at this point if I can only use a USB.

Thanks a bunch by the way.

In all honesty, if you don't have an internet connection fast enough to take advantage of the portage application, then there is no point in running Gentoo. Gentoo is awesome in that it will sync with the online package / source directories to understand what is needed to complete the install automatically, resolving all dependencies for you, not to mention automatic install on top of that. Also, when something changes in your machine, portage will understand how to resolve this to make sure that everything else on your machine will play nice.

To me, this is the power of Gentoo. But if you're not using this function, then I just don't see the point of Gentoo. The reason I switched to Gentoo was based on the frustration that I first ran into when I tried to install VLC and Mplayer on Fedora, and YDL. These distros are dependency nightmares. I switched to gentoo, and simply typed "emerge -v vlc", and it was done! It downloaded everything else that I needed as defined in my USE variable such as (ffmpeg support, xvid support, win32codec support, etc...,), and everything is downloaded, merged, and recompiled locally to be optimized for my PS3 and installed for you. This goes for everything else (KDE, XFCE, or whatever else you can think of)

Other distros have their own equivalents such as YUM and other repository management systems, but you still run into dependency issues all the time.

Do one of the 3:

1. get a high speed connection at home, it's not that much more expensive than dial-up anymore (Have you been in jail all these years? )
2. Install Fedora ( I wouldn't recommned YDL for now for many many reasons ), and use the rpms, since you'll be using your usb drive to install everything.
3. Use the dial-up. The only difference with the dialup is the download speed of the source files. And in many cases, they are not that big. Once downloaded, it will compile. Problem here is that you will not see any online src tree changes as they occur. You'll need to be able to synchronize your PS3 with the online source tree from time to time. Even on a broadband connection, this takes a long time. There is however, a way you can download the snapshot of this source tree, and update your machine manually, but I haven't tried this.

[skymansxeno]

I live in the middle of nowhere right now. They don't have that kind of internet out were I live. And while dial up is optional right now, out where I live dial up is pointless. It takes 30 mins to put up a page like this. We have tried it before and it is a joke. Maybe in the end I am just better off with YDL 5 right at the moment and maybe when I leave this hell hole I can start doing these things.

Thanks anyway.

[asong26]

Originally Posted by skymansxeno

I live in the middle of nowhere right now. They don't have that kind of internet out were I live. And while dial up is optional right now, out where I live dial up is pointless. It takes 30 mins to put up a page like this. We have tried it before and it is a joke. Maybe in the end I am just better off with YDL 5 right at the moment and maybe when I leave this hell hole I can start doing these things.

Thanks anyway.

Recommendation: Satellite. The newer implementations do not require a phone line. I think DirecTV offers this....

[geterman]

Originally Posted by asong26

You can load it with the USB. You'll just have to mount it.

Evey machine may be different... Try this:

connect your usb drive to a PC with a faster connection (may be at work?), and then download the stage4 tar file onto the usb drive. Connect the USB drive to your PS3, and then right before the step where you download the tar ball do this:



mkdir /mnt/usb
mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt/usb

type: ls /mnt/usb (puts some filees in the usb to verify)


"/dev/sdf1" is the device location for usb mass storage devices as defined by my PS3 using my USB Drive, just they the linux will recognize your internal hard drive as /dev/sda or a partion as /dev/sda1. If all gentoo distros treat the USB drives the same way, this should work for you.

And then, at the install step where it says:

cd /mnt/gentoo
wget http://........

replace it with:

cd /mnt/gentoo
cp /mnt/usb/tarball....tar.bz2 .

'tarball....tar.bz2' is the name of your tarball that you've downloaded.

This should copy the tar ball which you've downloaded and placed on the usb drive to where it needs to be. Follow the rest of the directions.
-= Double Post =-



I have no idea why this is happening to you. There shouldn't be any issues. Go back to the wiki and carefully examine every single step, such as modifying /etc/rc.conf file as well as creating a root password at the right install step. Also, make sure you've set this command before rebooting (during the install):



If your rc.confi file has been modified to have fluxbox as default XSESSIONL

XSESSIONS="fluxbox" <---- without the '#' in front.

everything should work. Once you verify that fluxbox is up and running, w/ no root login issues. Then you should install kde.

I am sorry I can't help you any further, since I have no idea which install steps you may be skipping, or not doing it right....

I followed every step and did everything the prompts told me to, except for the emerge --help config at the end of the KDE install. I do not understand what I am supposed to do with that. When I login into KDE and go the terminal I can become a super user with this "su -". And my Root login works fine in fluxbox. Also when I go to My Computer it doesn't show my usb drive, how can I get it to show up

[Crymson]

Not sure about in KDE, but in the command line, you need to mount the USB device.

On my PS3, my USB key is /dev/sdf

I also typically mount mine to /var/key

So, open a terminal and type:

mkdir /var/key

mount /dev/sdf1 -t vfat /var/key

Or, if it complains about that, it might not have a superblock, so just type the following:

mount /dev/sdf -t vfat /var/key

Then it should mount, and be accessible from KDE.

Remember to unmount it before you take it out.

umount /dev/sdf1

or

umount /dev/sdf

Hope this helps.

[skymansxeno]

"Satellite. The newer implementations do not require a phone line. I think DirecTV offers this...."

Yeah, to bad it will take hundreds of dollars to get them out at my house to install everything. But yeah the monthly payments aren't too bad.

I think I will wait for down the road.

[asong26]

And my Root login works fine in fluxbox. Also when I go to My Computer it doesn't show my usb drive, how can I get it to show up

If you've installed the precompiled binary package of kdebase, then it's not going to automatically detect the usb drive. If you want plug and play functionality like windows, then you'll need to compile your own kdebase w/ hal support.

If you simply want this icon / link item to show up, then all you need to do is modify your /etc/fstab file correctly and add an entry for your usb drive.

In my case: my usb drive is associated to /dev/sdf1 by default.

I then create a directory called /mnt/usb <--- mkdir /mnt/usb (do it as root)

Open up the /etc/fstab as root, and look at the the /mnt/sd example. Create another entry line exactly like the 'sd' one, except replace sd with usb, and replace /dev/sdc1 with /dev/sdf1

Reboot. You should now see it show up. From here, you can right click on the usb device icon, and choose 'mount', or you can even do it on the prompt: mount /mnt/usb
BTW: I am not sure if fluxbox will show this icon. It does for XFCE4 and KDE. Haven't tried fluxbox. You can give it a try.

[geterman]

thanks for the help now i have a new problem. I cannot open up my usb drive or any cd or dvd, it not reading them. I have everything set up according to the install instructions. I can see the icons but when i click on them nothing is in there.

[Crymson]

Hmmmm... you mounted the USB drive?

Perhaps there is nothing on it? Was it mounted rw? Did the mount fail?

Need more info before I can troubleshoot that for you.

[asong26]

Originally Posted by geterman

thanks for the help now i have a new problem. I cannot open up my usb drive or any cd or dvd, it not reading them. I have everything set up according to the install instructions. I can see the icons but when i click on them nothing is in there.

No offense, but I highly doubt that you've installed everything correctly as you were supposed to. Something is wrong. You shouldn't have these problems.

Login as root from the login screen. Then try it again. If it works, then your your permission may not be set correctly.

[geterman]

here is how my file looks:

# <fs> <mountpoint> <type> <opts> <dump/pass>

# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
/dev/sda1 / ext3 noatime 0 1
/dev/sda2 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro 0 0
/dev/sdc1 /mnt/memstick auto noauto 0 0
/dev/sdd1 /mnt/sd auto noauto 0 0
/dev/sdf1 /mnt/usb auto noauto 0 0
#/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto 0 0

# NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0

# glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
# POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
# (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
# use almost no memory if not populated with files)
shm /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0
none /spu spufs defaults 0 0

[asong26]

Looks like the contents of your fstab file. Looks correct.

Can you login as root after you reboot? If you can't, you haven't installed correctly, or something is wrong.

First login as root and make sure you can mount them and access them. If so, I guess it's not your install, but more of configuration issue, such as setting the correct user permissions.

To verify that your user has all the permissions to necessary groups, open up /etc/group file.

Scroll down, and make sure your user name is displayed in the right groups that will give you the access:

Here's what mine looks like (my user = asong)

wheel::10:root,asong
floppy::11:root
mail::12:mail
news::13:news
uucp::14:uucp
man::15:man
console::17:
audio::18:asong
cdrom::19:asong
dialout::20:root
tape::26:root
video::27:root,asong
cdrw::80:
usb::85:
users::100:games,asong
nofiles:x:200:
smmsp:x:209:smmsp
portage::250ortage,ason g

Make sure your user name show up next at what I have set on mine. If you don't see it, just type it in. When modifying this file, again you must be in root to do so...

[geterman]

maybe the instructions I used were out of date. I got them from this forum. Which instructions did you guys use?

[asong26]

Originally Posted by geterman

maybe the instructions I used were out of date. I got them from this forum. Which instructions did you guys use?

This is the latest and the greatest of installing 64bit userland:

http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/cell...allGentooOnPS3