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**Glynnder** · 03-15-2007, 12:47 PM

I have a slight dilema, so it's up to you guys to decide. Basically, I can leave most of LuaDevKit as it is, with small fixes etc.. but never any undo redo, inserting text at the cursor, custom formatting etc...

OR

Remove syntax highlighting, maybe only temporarily, maybe permanently, and add all these new features.

It's your choice.

Alex

**MániácX** · 03-15-2007, 12:49 PM

syntax highlighting is the best. (even though i NEVER program in LUA, KEEP IT!)

youresam · 03-15-2007, 01:31 PM

Syntax highlighting is an absolute must. If someone doesnt like it, have an option to disable it.

**Glynnder** · 03-15-2007, 01:35 PM

It's not people liking it or not, its that it limits what features I can add in the future

youresam · 03-15-2007, 01:53 PM

Like I said, its a must.

**parm289** · 03-15-2007, 02:00 PM

i love syntax highlighting, but in my opinion, it is just as important as undo/redo, especially since ldk prompts a save at an interval. If i save already messed up code and can't figure out what i did wrong, then i can't undo the changes and i'm screwed (and believe me, i make plenty of mistakes).

I say find the best way to include syntax highlighting and undo/redo in the next release. If syntax highlighting was taken out, it is possible, yet inconvenient, to write the lua script in Notpad++ (which has lua syntax coloring), and then open and test it in LDK.

Actually, now that i think about it, if it isnt too much work, you could make two builds - one with syntax coloring, the other with new features, and make them both available. That way, there doesn't have to be a dilemma, users can choose which one they want, and you can see which features are the most used and important.

**MániácX** · 03-15-2007, 02:04 PM

quick question; y can't you have both (xtra features & highlighting)? Sorry, just don't get it

youresam · 03-15-2007, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -MANIAC-

quick question; y can't you have both (xtra features & highlighting)? Sorry, just don't get it

Because its taking too much time to develop.

**slicer4ever** · 03-15-2007, 02:36 PM

syntax is a most like they said although i don't use lua i would say remove it add in your feutures and reinsert it of course i'm with maniac y do u need to take it out? did you tie it in somewhere that a small variable check couldn't solve?

youresam · 03-15-2007, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicer4ever

syntax is a most like they said although i don't use lua i would say remove it add in your feutures and reinsert it of course i'm with maniac y do u need to take it out? did you tie it in somewhere that a small variable check couldn't solve?

Because its taking too much time to develop.

**SG57** · 03-15-2007, 03:08 PM

If you cant implement undo,redo,insert text at cursor, etc. Than develope this in something else. Those, in my opinion, are a must. Else, Ill just use Dev-C++ with lua syntax highlighting.

youresam · 03-15-2007, 03:46 PM

Eww, Dev-C++ for lua....eww.
Notepad2 ftw. http://www.flos-freeware.ch/notepad2.html

**slicer4ever** · 03-15-2007, 03:49 PM

ewww,2 both of them use context=-)

**MániácX** · 03-15-2007, 08:38 PM

yoursam, i have always used notepad2...BUT Y TAKE OUT SYNTAX?!?!?! ISN'T IT ALREADY THERE?? I mean, something is there already, u want to add more features; y take highlighting out?!?!

**Glynnder** · 03-16-2007, 12:55 AM

No, its not too much time to have both, its more because what happens is the syntax highlighting reads the contents of the text window and repaints it in a different colour etc... always.

It means having it and adding other text box related thing impossible

psphackman · 03-20-2007, 07:09 PM

So Glynnder i see your a coder of imockpod. where can i download it?lol
you never answered my pm

**Zettablade** · 03-20-2007, 09:38 PM

Wow, if you can't make a program for editing that does both syntax highlighting and common editing features at a decent speed, then you just suck at programming. I advise you go off and become a pornstar. At least you will get paid for sucking!</flame>
Seriously, what are you doing this in, Lua?
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Quote:

Originally Posted by SG57

If you cant implement undo,redo,insert text at cursor, etc. Than develope this in something else. Those, in my opinion, are a must. Else, Ill just use Dev-C++ with lua syntax highlighting.

Heh, Dev-C++ is for noobs. Kdevelop ftw!
[action=Zettablade]<3 Gentoo+Kde[/action]

**Glynnder** · 03-21-2007, 12:49 AM

iMockPod is a WIP and is not for here.

Zetta, I can do both, and will do both, it's just at the moment do you want me to implement undo etc... and release that or keep it as it is till I find a way to sort it.

Its a lot more complicated than you think, especially in Java, but I'll sort it.

**Siouxsie** · 03-21-2007, 01:18 AM

LDK won't work for me.

**Glynnder** · 03-21-2007, 01:21 AM

Yeah, you've said, I need to work everything out, basically everything is stopped for a month, as I'm goin on holiday as of Sat. This will be locked while i aint here.

Alex

**Siouxsie** · 03-21-2007, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glynnder

Yeah, you've said

Erm. Not meaning to burst your bubble, but that post was the first time I'd ever mentioned LDK in a post... I posted that immediately after it didn't work, and I'd tried what the manual said to.

Unless you were talking to someone else, and it just looked like you were talking to me.

**Glynnder** · 03-21-2007, 05:04 AM

Was it not you that said in the help thread about it not working in Linux?

My apologies.
What doesn't work about it?

By the way, there's a slight bug how sometimes the splash screen will display for ages and then will have an error, I need to change that, because it's just timing out when really LDK's just taking forever to load, I'll make a proper loading screen soon to speed it up tenfold.
If you're getting the error though, just ignore it and let LDK load, it is a lot quicker the second time

**Siouxsie** · 03-21-2007, 05:06 AM

I click the icon, and a command prompt window flashes up and closes straight away. Windows XP btw.

Never used Linux in my life either, I think you just have me confused with someone

**Zettablade** · 03-21-2007, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glynnder

iMockPod is a WIP and is not for here.

Zetta, I can do both, and will do both, it's just at the moment do you want me to implement undo etc... and release that or keep it as it is till I find a way to sort it.

Its a lot more complicated than you think, especially in Java, but I'll sort it.

Java? Why Java? Java is crazy slow! But if you want portability with little effort, I guess java would be the way to go.
You should keep it in there atm moment, and sort it out. Once you get them both working, make a new release unless you have new features that people are just dying to have.

**Glynnder** · 03-21-2007, 07:07 AM

Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.

Also, I wasn't going to use Java due to its speed until i asked a java professional who said it wasn't that slow, naively I believed him and its slow as hell! Limewire is written in Java though and its not *that* slow.

Also, siouxsie I haven't had that with anyone else, is there anything different from usual about your PC

**myschoo** · 03-21-2007, 07:46 AM

syntax highlighting is very important feature, keep it

**Siouxsie** · 03-21-2007, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glynnder

Also, siouxsie I haven't had that with anyone else, is there anything different from usual about your PC

It belongs to me...

I'm running XP MCE. I'm not bad with computers, so if it was anything obvious, I'd have got it...

In fact, it's probably something stupid. Like I'm clicking it wrong. I dunno. I'll just wait a few days, that usually helps.

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03-15-2007, 12:49 PM	#2
MániácX Retired PSP Developer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 407 Trader Feedback: 0	syntax highlighting is the best. (even though i NEVER program in LUA, KEEP IT!) __________________ Patch To Version 3.1

03-15-2007, 01:31 PM	#3
youresam total-Z Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: texas Posts: 2,803 Trader Feedback: 0	Syntax highlighting is an absolute must. If someone doesnt like it, have an option to disable it. __________________ 牧来栠摩琠敨映汩獥 PSN: youresam From Earth the Frozen Ipaqs shall rise and be silenced and all will live free. --Mike Hollingsworth

03-15-2007, 02:36 PM	#9
slicer4ever QJ Gamer Gold Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: everywhere Posts: 3,430 Trader Feedback: 0	syntax is a most like they said although i don't use lua i would say remove it add in your feutures and reinsert it of course i'm with maniac y do u need to take it out? did you tie it in somewhere that a small variable check couldn't solve? __________________ 1. Failed....again... 2. http://slicer.gibbocool.com/ stay updated on all my projects

03-15-2007, 03:08 PM	#11
SG57 words are stones in my <3 My Mood: Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Jordan Location: Spokane Just Played: LotRO Posts: 4,971 Trader Feedback: 0	If you cant implement undo,redo,insert text at cursor, etc. Than develope this in something else. Those, in my opinion, are a must. Else, Ill just use Dev-C++ with lua syntax highlighting. __________________ ...at what speed must I live.. to be able to see you again?... Projects

03-15-2007, 01:35 PM	#4
Glynnder is not posting very often Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: omnipresent Posts: 5,161 Trader Feedback: 0	It's not people liking it or not, its that it limits what features I can add in the future

03-15-2007, 01:53 PM	#5
youresam total-Z Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: texas Posts: 2,803 Trader Feedback: 0	Like I said, its a must.

03-15-2007, 02:00 PM	#6
parm289 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 347 Trader Feedback: 0	i love syntax highlighting, but in my opinion, it is just as important as undo/redo, especially since ldk prompts a save at an interval. If i save already messed up code and can't figure out what i did wrong, then i can't undo the changes and i'm screwed (and believe me, i make plenty of mistakes). I say find the best way to include syntax highlighting and undo/redo in the next release. If syntax highlighting was taken out, it is possible, yet inconvenient, to write the lua script in Notpad++ (which has lua syntax coloring), and then open and test it in LDK. Actually, now that i think about it, if it isnt too much work, you could make two builds - one with syntax coloring, the other with new features, and make them both available. That way, there doesn't have to be a dilemma, users can choose which one they want, and you can see which features are the most used and important.

03-15-2007, 02:04 PM	#7
MániácX Retired PSP Developer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 407 Trader Feedback: 0	quick question; y can't you have both (xtra features & highlighting)? Sorry, just don't get it

03-15-2007, 03:46 PM	#12
youresam total-Z Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: texas Posts: 2,803 Trader Feedback: 0	Eww, Dev-C++ for lua....eww. Notepad2 ftw. http://www.flos-freeware.ch/notepad2.html

03-15-2007, 03:49 PM	#13
slicer4ever QJ Gamer Gold Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: everywhere Posts: 3,430 Trader Feedback: 0	ewww,2 both of them use context=-)

03-15-2007, 08:38 PM	#14
MániácX Retired PSP Developer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 407 Trader Feedback: 0	yoursam, i have always used notepad2...BUT Y TAKE OUT SYNTAX?!?!?! ISN'T IT ALREADY THERE?? I mean, something is there already, u want to add more features; y take highlighting out?!?!

03-16-2007, 12:55 AM	#15
Glynnder is not posting very often Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: omnipresent Posts: 5,161 Trader Feedback: 0	No, its not too much time to have both, its more because what happens is the syntax highlighting reads the contents of the text window and repaints it in a different colour etc... always. It means having it and adding other text box related thing impossible

03-20-2007, 07:09 PM	#16
psphackman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 41 Trader Feedback: 0	So Glynnder i see your a coder of imockpod. where can i download it?lol you never answered my pm

03-21-2007, 12:49 AM	#18
Glynnder is not posting very often Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: omnipresent Posts: 5,161 Trader Feedback: 0	iMockPod is a WIP and is not for here. Zetta, I can do both, and will do both, it's just at the moment do you want me to implement undo etc... and release that or keep it as it is till I find a way to sort it. Its a lot more complicated than you think, especially in Java, but I'll sort it.

03-21-2007, 01:18 AM	#19
Siouxsie QJ Gamer Silver Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: York, UK. Posts: 4,224 Trader Feedback: 0	LDK won't work for me. __________________ -=Images are for Premium members only=-

03-21-2007, 01:21 AM	#20
Glynnder is not posting very often Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: omnipresent Posts: 5,161 Trader Feedback: 0	Yeah, you've said, I need to work everything out, basically everything is stopped for a month, as I'm goin on holiday as of Sat. This will be locked while i aint here. Alex

03-21-2007, 05:04 AM	#22
Glynnder is not posting very often Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: omnipresent Posts: 5,161 Trader Feedback: 0	Was it not you that said in the help thread about it not working in Linux? My apologies. What doesn't work about it? By the way, there's a slight bug how sometimes the splash screen will display for ages and then will have an error, I need to change that, because it's just timing out when really LDK's just taking forever to load, I'll make a proper loading screen soon to speed it up tenfold. If you're getting the error though, just ignore it and let LDK load, it is a lot quicker the second time

03-21-2007, 05:06 AM	#23
Siouxsie QJ Gamer Silver Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: York, UK. Posts: 4,224 Trader Feedback: 0	I click the icon, and a command prompt window flashes up and closes straight away. Windows XP btw. Never used Linux in my life either, I think you just have me confused with someone

03-21-2007, 07:07 AM	#25
Glynnder is not posting very often Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: omnipresent Posts: 5,161 Trader Feedback: 0	Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought. Also, I wasn't going to use Java due to its speed until i asked a java professional who said it wasn't that slow, naively I believed him and its slow as hell! Limewire is written in Java though and its not that slow. Also, siouxsie I haven't had that with anyone else, is there anything different from usual about your PC

03-21-2007, 07:46 AM	#26
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