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**SuperBatXS** · 03-15-2007, 06:31 PM

Discuss here, not in the other lua flasher release thread.

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**Adiuvo** · 03-15-2007, 06:32 PM

No. We have enough flashers in C to begin with.

**SuperBatXS** · 03-15-2007, 06:33 PM

Wait....i should have done a poll.......

**yolarry** · 03-15-2007, 06:33 PM

I say no. Lua is not secure like c is.

**Access_Denied** · 03-15-2007, 06:34 PM

Too late now, isn't it?

**Adiuvo** · 03-15-2007, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Access_Denied

Too late now, isn't it?

Yeah, but there can be something like a boycott on LUA flashers. If there's no demand, nobody will make them.

**Anti-QuickJay** · 03-15-2007, 06:36 PM

Agreed.^^
Flashing for LUA i think should be for documentation, Not to be used.

**Yongobongo** · 03-15-2007, 06:36 PM

The only way C is secure is if the programmer MAKES IT SECURE.
Do you think C is designed to protect your precious flash0? NO.
Lua flashers are as secure as C if you put the right checks in.

If you don't like it, no one's making you use it. You aren't forced to use a flasher, don't use it if you don't trust it.

**Access_Denied** · 03-15-2007, 06:37 PM

We flame people for making a Hello World, yet people still make them. What will a boycott do?

**nosushi4you** · 03-15-2007, 06:38 PM

agreed^^

**Adiuvo** · 03-15-2007, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Access_Denied

We flame people for making a Hello World, yet people still make them. What will a boycott do?

But people don't usually release them. When was the last hello world you saw that was released? Anyway, people ignore those, so the threads just die.

**Yongobongo** · 03-15-2007, 06:41 PM

The only people who will vote 'no' are people who know C and are pissed off because Lua now has one of the reasons you would want to learn C implemented.

**yolarry** · 03-15-2007, 06:43 PM

ah crap. I was about to release a hello world.

**Adiuvo** · 03-15-2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yongobongo

The only people who will vote 'no' are people who know C and are pissed off because Lua now has one of the reasons you would want to learn C implemented.

Not really. I don't know a lot of C and I voted no because LUA isn't as secure due to the tendency for the releases to not be as polished.

**SuperBatXS** · 03-15-2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yongobongo

The only people who will vote 'no' are people who know C and are pissed off because Lua now has one of the reasons you would want to learn C implemented.

Three words: "C++ makes lua".

**slicer4ever** · 03-15-2007, 06:44 PM

even so you still have click games flying around

**Yongobongo** · 03-15-2007, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adiuvo

LUA isn't as secure due to the tendency for the releases to not be as polished.

True but when dealing with flash0 testing is expected

**TacticalPenguin** · 03-15-2007, 06:46 PM

No, because lua is a scripting language intended for making games and entertainment/use apps, not modification apps.

**Anti-QuickJay** · 03-15-2007, 06:46 PM

I dont no alot of C and i voted No, Dont make assumptions

**xsorifc28** · 03-15-2007, 06:46 PM

no i say atari basic flasher
like that one guys signature lol.

**Adiuvo** · 03-15-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yongobongo

True but when dealing with flash0 testing is expected

People lie however.
Especially if most of the devs are 13

**SuperBatXS** · 03-15-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TacticalPinguin

No, because lua is a scripting language intended for making games and entertainment/use apps, not modification apps.

That, my friend, is the MAIN reason i vote no.

**Yongobongo** · 03-15-2007, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-QJ

I dont no alot of C and i voted No, Dont make assumptions

Only because lua is stereotypically a language for n00bs

**slicer4ever** · 03-15-2007, 06:48 PM

sry bout what i said earler as ie was going extremly slow anyways i don't think we have the right to tell people not to make flashers don't like it then don't look period.

**yolarry** · 03-15-2007, 06:49 PM

agrees with superbatxs and tacticalpinguin.

**Adiuvo** · 03-15-2007, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yongobongo

Only because lua is stereotypically a language for n00bs

Here's a fact: LUA is the language most commonly used by n00bs.
There really aren't that many good LUA devs.

**Anti-QuickJay** · 03-15-2007, 06:50 PM

Well, I cant tell someone not to make flashers, Flashers will be made but i just dont think they should be released, Thats just MY opinion.

**Yongobongo** · 03-15-2007, 06:50 PM

Of course it is. You dont need to setup cygwin and crap. But look at youresam

**xpack** · 03-15-2007, 06:51 PM

The Program Itself Are Only As Secure As The Programmers Make Them So Lua Isnt To Blame For Anything

**TacticalPenguin** · 03-15-2007, 06:51 PM

It IS a fact but look at how much it can do when a dev learns to use it, wedge racer, ipodmock, l3d, psparty, lemme go find the goodsized list i made a few weeks ago in an argument.

Edit: yea lol I bet sam could beat all but the best c programmers with lua

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03-15-2007, 06:31 PM	#1
SuperBatXS &amp;lt;font color=black&amp;gt;Develo per Join Date: May 2006 Location: Behind you. Posts: 1,813 Trader Feedback: 0	[ATTENTION] Should lua flashing continue?? Discuss here, not in the other lua flasher release thread. Vip Note: Keep this on topic and the posts within reasons. No flames or spam please. Read -Brad. __________________ Calypso - Enjoy the excellent 2D space shooter: http://dl.qj.net/Calypso-v1-PSP-Home...6542/catid/195 "Quoting yourself in your signature means you love to masterbate while looking at the mirror." -me (oh, wait...) Last edited by Brad.; 03-17-2007 at 09:43 AM..

03-15-2007, 06:32 PM	#2
Adiuvo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 24,900 Trader Feedback: 0	No. We have enough flashers in C to begin with. __________________ If you ever need me, you can contact me at [URL="********.net"]********.net.[/URL]

03-15-2007, 06:33 PM	#3
SuperBatXS &amp;lt;font color=black&amp;gt;Develo per Join Date: May 2006 Location: Behind you. Posts: 1,813 Trader Feedback: 0	Wait....i should have done a poll....... __________________ Calypso - Enjoy the excellent 2D space shooter: http://dl.qj.net/Calypso-v1-PSP-Home...6542/catid/195 "Quoting yourself in your signature means you love to masterbate while looking at the mirror." -me (oh, wait...)

03-15-2007, 06:33 PM	#4
yolarry Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 890 Trader Feedback: 0	I say no. Lua is not secure like c is. __________________ No longer comes to this site...

03-15-2007, 06:34 PM	#5
Access_Denied I'm Baaaack! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Waukegan,Illinois Posts: 2,185 Trader Feedback: 0	Too late now, isn't it? __________________

03-15-2007, 06:36 PM	#7
Anti-QuickJay lol Join Date: Aug 2006 Real First Name: Robert Location: Whittier, CA Just Played: Madden 10 Posts: 5,791 Trader Feedback: 0	Agreed.^^ Flashing for LUA i think should be for documentation, Not to be used.

03-15-2007, 06:36 PM	#8
Yongobongo .info Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: ACT, Australia Posts: 1,674 Trader Feedback: 0	The only way C is secure is if the programmer MAKES IT SECURE. Do you think C is designed to protect your precious flash0? NO. Lua flashers are as secure as C if you put the right checks in. If you don't like it, no one's making you use it. You aren't forced to use a flasher, don't use it if you don't trust it. __________________ http://www.yongobongo.com PSN - yongobongo

03-15-2007, 06:37 PM	#9
Access_Denied I'm Baaaack! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Waukegan,Illinois Posts: 2,185 Trader Feedback: 0	We flame people for making a Hello World, yet people still make them. What will a boycott do? __________________

03-15-2007, 06:38 PM	#10
nosushi4you Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,043 Trader Feedback: 0	agreed^^

03-15-2007, 06:41 PM	#12
Yongobongo .info Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: ACT, Australia Posts: 1,674 Trader Feedback: 0	The only people who will vote 'no' are people who know C and are pissed off because Lua now has one of the reasons you would want to learn C implemented. __________________ http://www.yongobongo.com PSN - yongobongo

03-15-2007, 06:43 PM	#13
yolarry Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 890 Trader Feedback: 0	ah crap. I was about to release a hello world. __________________ No longer comes to this site...

03-15-2007, 06:44 PM	#16
slicer4ever Developer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: everywhere Posts: 3,357 Trader Feedback: 0	even so you still have click games flying around __________________ 1. Failed....again... 2. http://slicer.gibbocool.com/ stay updated on all my projects

03-15-2007, 06:46 PM	#18
TacticalPenguin Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,633 Trader Feedback: 0	No, because lua is a scripting language intended for making games and entertainment/use apps, not modification apps.

03-15-2007, 06:46 PM	#20
xsorifc28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Removable Disk (G:) Posts: 1,698 Trader Feedback: 0	no i say atari basic flasher like that one guys signature lol. __________________ [CENTER] [_ıииeя_тυяκ*_] Turkish Power >_< [/CENTER]

03-15-2007, 06:48 PM	#24
slicer4ever Developer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: everywhere Posts: 3,357 Trader Feedback: 0	sry bout what i said earler as ie was going extremly slow anyways i don't think we have the right to tell people not to make flashers don't like it then don't look period. __________________ 1. Failed....again... 2. http://slicer.gibbocool.com/ stay updated on all my projects

03-15-2007, 06:49 PM	#25
yolarry Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 890 Trader Feedback: 0	agrees with superbatxs and tacticalpinguin. __________________ No longer comes to this site...

03-15-2007, 06:50 PM	#27
Anti-QuickJay lol Join Date: Aug 2006 Real First Name: Robert Location: Whittier, CA Just Played: Madden 10 Posts: 5,791 Trader Feedback: 0	Well, I cant tell someone not to make flashers, Flashers will be made but i just dont think they should be released, Thats just MY opinion.

03-15-2007, 06:51 PM	#29
xpack Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under Your Bed Posts: 3,084 Trader Feedback: 0	The Program Itself Are Only As Secure As The Programmers Make Them So Lua Isnt To Blame For Anything

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