QJ.net Game Discussion - PSP, Xbox, Wii, PS3, PSP Homebrew, and PSP Guides

**youresam** · 04-14-2007, 06:28 PM

I'm creating a new thread since vBulletin messed up my old thread. (bloggers, no frontpage plz kthx)

Anyway, heres the current progress of LuaX, a windowing system I am creating for LuaOS²

You can read more about it and get the future builds here: http://youresam.com/LuaX/
Alpha 003 is available for download. Read the changelog below.

Changelog:
alpha 001:

Initial release

alpha 002:

Mac dock zooming

alpha 003:

Mac dock complete
Start bar 95% complete
System mode (hold select)
Mac alt-tab 20%
Vista Flip 3D 90% (SYSTEM + L+R)
Pong test, extremely rough and incomplete

alpha 004:

Icons complete
Cube 95% complete
Rough frameskip

FAQ

Q: When will it be done, can I beta test after the alpha, if I can when can I, and when will you have all the features done 100%?
- A: Soon™

What is expected for the release of LuaOS²:
*Fully featured multitasking lua shell
*Interchangable "Mac dock" and "Windows bar"
*Interchangable alt-tab from the Mac and the "Vista flip3d"
*3D cube to switch enviroments (example)
*Sample apps (for now, planned "paint" and "billion"[aim clone])

My goal is to be better than this.

**Zettablade** · 04-14-2007, 06:32 PM

dude, if you wanna do 3d effects, you really need to be concentrating on making it more of a beryl/compiz then a windows/mac effects. Compiz/beryl takes 3d desktop to the next level and beyond!
And out of curiosity, how do you plan to overcome the memory limits?

**youresam** · 04-14-2007, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zettablade

dude, if you wanna do 3d effects, you really need to be concentrating on making it more of a beryl/compiz then a windows/mac effects. Compiz/beryl takes 3d desktop to the next level and beyond!
And out of curiosity, how do you plan to overcome the memory limits?

Find me some physics for how windows are shaped while dragged and I might.

And memory limits, who knows. I think I'm in the clear, however.

**Zettablade** · 04-14-2007, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by youresam

Find me some physics for how windows are shaped while dragged and I might.

And memory limits, who knows. I think I'm in the clear, however.

Well, it's open source, so the hardest part is actually finding it. >.<
But as for memory limits, it probably wouldn't be possible to run actual psp games. As for homebrew, I'm not sure if anyone has made anything that actually takes up enough memory to cause this to overflow.

**youresam** · 04-14-2007, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zettablade

Well, it's open source, so the hardest part is actually finding it. >.<
But as for memory limits, it probably wouldn't be possible to run actual psp games. As for homebrew, I'm not sure if anyone has made anything that actually takes up enough memory to cause this to overflow.

Em, this wont be running eboots, just lua...since its made IN lua..

**Zettablade** · 04-14-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by youresam

Em, this wont be running eboots, just lua...since its made IN lua..

then you probably don't have to actually worry about memory xD

**SG57** · 04-14-2007, 06:49 PM

Personally, Id stop now and convert to C to free up 8 mb of memory or so (how much does your lua player take up? iremember you saying 8 or something...)

Also, Zetta, most dont because either the # of resources being used dont add up to 34 mb (or however much RAM + VRAM are free when running an app) or they do take up that much, and have efficient memory managment systems to only load whats needed, and stream larger music files.

**youresam** · 04-14-2007, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SG57

Personally, Id stop now and convert to C to free up 8 mb of memory or so (how much does your lua player take up? iremember you saying 8 or something...)

Or not.

04-14-2007, 06:50 PM

That is L33T. 3D FLIPPINESS FTW.

No, seriously. Good job.

**dracule** · 04-14-2007, 06:57 PM

actually going in lua is a smart move since people can simply write programs for it.

but you should change the lua engine to allow the launching of eboots lol

**youresam** · 04-14-2007, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dracule

actually going in lua is a smart move since people can simply write programs for it.

but you should change the lua engine to allow the launching of eboots lol

Which wont have very good backwards compatibility

**Joel Van** · 04-14-2007, 07:27 PM

wow, this looks awesome Youresam! i really like the Vista Flip 3D thing. Looks great. When do you think you'll have the cube thing done? They look and feel great!

**PSPHax0r9** · 04-14-2007, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel Van

When do you think you'll have the cube thing done? They look and feel great!

When he's finished coding it.

**Joel Van** · 04-14-2007, 07:44 PM

that answers a little vast isn't it? Have you started it? i'm just curious as too how well it will work,,,!

Well, Goodluck with LuaX youresam.

**PSPHax0r9** · 04-14-2007, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel Van

that answers a little vast isn't it? Have you started it? i'm just curious as too how well it will work,,,!

Read the FAQ.

Soon™

**dracule** · 04-14-2007, 08:37 PM

isnt the 3d gui a little slow in lua? i once made a simple program with a star field on each side and it and ran pretty slow at high res (for the star field)...

**youresam** · 04-14-2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dracule

isnt the 3d gui a little slow in lua? i once made a simple program with a star field on each side and it and ran pretty slow at high res (for the star field)...

Its only slow if you use it wrong.

**Anti-QuickJay** · 04-14-2007, 08:43 PM

Good job youresam!

**youresam** · 04-14-2007, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-QJ

Good job youresam!

...go away will ya?

**Anti-QuickJay** · 04-14-2007, 08:50 PM

Why?

I just wanted to congratulate you on such an awesome job !

**twelve** · 04-14-2007, 09:46 PM

Ok I don't know who banned Anti-QJ from the thread but he hasn't done anything worthy of being banned from it so it has been lifted. I've also deleted all the OT posts relating to the spelling mistake and corrected it.

Lets keep it clean guys.

**MaTiAz** · 04-15-2007, 03:03 AM

Woah, looks pretty cool, even if it's in Lua. although I'd still go for C

Savagefreak · 04-15-2007, 03:10 AM

Teh sexyness

Very nice man!
Looking forward to it.

**madsoul** · 04-15-2007, 06:19 AM

boojAAA hardcore porn lua style

**hallo007** · 04-15-2007, 06:23 AM

looks nice

**Captain Clordio** · 04-15-2007, 08:18 AM

Like any project of youresam's this looks great. It's really nice to see someone proving to all the LUA haters that LUA is a competent language too.

**MaTiAz** · 04-15-2007, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Clordio

Like any project of youresam's this looks great. It's really nice to see someone proving to all the LUA haters that LUA is a competent language too.

It's not the language, it's the program you use Lua to script >_>

And most lua haters just don't like when people substitute a real programming language with a scripting language.

**TacticalPenguin** · 04-15-2007, 03:16 PM

Leet.

**SuperBatXS** · 04-15-2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by youresam

My goal is to be better than this.

Psssssssssshhhhhhhhhttttt tttt............you can beat that blindfolded....

Compliment to you, not a diss to that link.

_twopoint · 04-28-2007, 09:46 PM

Alpha 004 RELEASED!

04-14-2007, 06:28 PM	#1
youresam total-Z Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: texas Posts: 2,803 Trader Feedback: 0	LuaX progress & alpha thread (alpha 004 out) I'm creating a new thread since vBulletin messed up my old thread. (bloggers, no frontpage plz kthx) Anyway, heres the current progress of LuaX, a windowing system I am creating for LuaOS² You can read more about it and get the future builds here: http://youresam.com/LuaX/ Alpha 003 is available for download. Read the changelog below. Changelog: alpha 001: Initial release alpha 002: Mac dock zooming alpha 003: Mac dock complete Start bar 95% complete System mode (hold select) Mac alt-tab 20% Vista Flip 3D 90% (SYSTEM + L+R) Pong test, extremely rough and incomplete alpha 004: Icons complete Cube 95% complete Rough frameskip FAQ Q: When will it be done, can I beta test after the alpha, if I can when can I, and when will you have all the features done 100%? A: Soon™ What is expected for the release of LuaOS²: Fully featured multitasking lua shell Interchangable "Mac dock" and "Windows bar" Interchangable alt-tab from the Mac and the "Vista flip3d" 3D cube to switch enviroments (example) Sample apps (for now, planned "paint" and "billion"[aim clone]) My goal is to be better than this. Last edited by youresam; 05-03-2007 at 09:58 PM..*

04-14-2007, 06:49 PM	#7
SG57 ...in a dream... Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,957 Trader Feedback: 0	Personally, Id stop now and convert to C to free up 8 mb of memory or so (how much does your lua player take up? iremember you saying 8 or something...) Also, Zetta, most dont because either the # of resources being used dont add up to 34 mb (or however much RAM + VRAM are free when running an app) or they do take up that much, and have efficient memory managment systems to only load whats needed, and stream larger music files. __________________ ...you'll never know what it's like... spending your whole life in a dream... Launch a Kitten out of a Cannon and win real cash! Checkout my newly updated site for all my projects (Kitten Cannon, BOXHEAD, Light Cycle 3D)

04-14-2007, 06:57 PM	#10
dracule I love the PS3!!! 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04-14-2007, 08:37 PM	#16
dracule I love the PS3!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Look behind you Posts: 1,876 Trader Feedback: 0	isnt the 3d gui a little slow in lua? i once made a simple program with a star field on each side and it and ran pretty slow at high res (for the star field)... __________________ [size=-3][color=#fefefe]11[/color][color=white]0[/color][color=#fbfbfb]1[/color][color=#f1f4f6]0[/color][color=#f2f5f8]0[/color][color=#f7f8fa]1[/color][color=#fcfcfc]0[/color][color=#fdfefd]0[/color][color=#fffffe]1[/color][color=#fefefe]1[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]000[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]0[/color][color=white]0[/color][color=#fefefe]1111011[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]1[/color][color=white]101[/color] 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04-14-2007, 08:50 PM	#20
Anti-QuickJay lol Join Date: Aug 2006 Real First Name: Robert Location: Whittier, CA Just Played: Madden 10 Posts: 5,791 Trader Feedback: 0	Why? I just wanted to congratulate you on such an awesome job ! Last edited by Phil; 04-14-2007 at 09:45 PM..

04-14-2007, 06:32 PM	#2
Zettablade Join Date: May 2006 Location: Programming or Farming Mudkips Posts: 657 Trader Feedback: 0	dude, if you wanna do 3d effects, you really need to be concentrating on making it more of a beryl/compiz then a windows/mac effects. Compiz/beryl takes 3d desktop to the next level and beyond! And out of curiosity, how do you plan to overcome the memory limits?

04-14-2007, 06:50 PM	#9
TheMarioKarters Guest Posts: n/a	That is L33T. 3D FLIPPINESS FTW. No, seriously. Good job.

04-14-2007, 07:27 PM	#12
Joel Van Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 219 Trader Feedback: 0	wow, this looks awesome Youresam! i really like the Vista Flip 3D thing. Looks great. When do you think you'll have the cube thing done? They look and feel great!

04-14-2007, 07:44 PM	#14
Joel Van Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 219 Trader Feedback: 0	that answers a little vast isn't it? Have you started it? i'm just curious as too how well it will work,,,! Well, Goodluck with LuaX youresam.

04-14-2007, 08:43 PM	#18
Anti-QuickJay lol Join Date: Aug 2006 Real First Name: Robert Location: Whittier, CA Just Played: Madden 10 Posts: 5,791 Trader Feedback: 0	Good job youresam!

04-14-2007, 09:46 PM	#21
twelve Muffin Love n Lemon Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Phil Location: Surrey, UK Just Played: Why is this mandatory? Posts: 11,734 Trader Feedback: 0	Ok I don't know who banned Anti-QJ from the thread but he hasn't done anything worthy of being banned from it so it has been lifted. I've also deleted all the OT posts relating to the spelling mistake and corrected it. Lets keep it clean guys.

04-15-2007, 03:03 AM	#22
MaTiAz Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 752 Trader Feedback: 0	Woah, looks pretty cool, even if it's in Lua. although I'd still go for C __________________ [center][B][SIZE="3"]wheeee =:D[/SIZE][/B][/center]

04-15-2007, 03:10 AM	#23
Savagefreak No longer a community member. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nederland Posts: 3 Trader Feedback: 0	Teh sexyness Very nice man! Looking forward to it.

04-15-2007, 06:19 AM	#24
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04-15-2007, 06:23 AM	#25
hallo007 Heroes never die Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ........... Posts: 1,318 Trader Feedback: 0	looks nice

04-15-2007, 08:18 AM	#26
Captain Clordio Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 546 Trader Feedback: 0	Like any project of youresam's this looks great. It's really nice to see someone proving to all the LUA haters that LUA is a competent language too. __________________ [CENTER][IMG]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a333/igalsfy/397bgBlack.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER]

04-15-2007, 03:16 PM	#28
TacticalPenguin Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,633 Trader Feedback: 0	Leet.

04-28-2007, 09:46 PM	#30
_twopoint No longer a community member. Join Date: Apr 2007 Real First Name: Jae-won Posts: 3,700 Trader Feedback: 0	Alpha 004 RELEASED!

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