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**hakk3r** · 11-04-2007, 08:15 PM

I am getting ready release the first version of WoWPSP. WoWPSP is a 2-D version of World of Warcraft coded in LUA. Hopefully by the time I reach BETA you will be able to go online and play with other users.

ALPHA Specs:
Scrolling maps (only 2 areas, working on better scrolling system) maybe
1 quest (PM me ideas for quests)
3 Buildings
Simple shop
1 option (music on/off)
Selection between 2 characters (Character selection does not affect game play besides attacks and player image)
I would say I am approximately 65% complete.(I will update the percentage up until the first release)
These are some of the things that might be included in the alpha release. It should be finished in about 2 weeks or less.
If you have a suggestion for the game please post about it below and I will see if it is within my grasp of coding.

Just so I don't have to keep stating this, It WILL be a MMO which means online!

**BlackShark** · 11-04-2007, 08:25 PM

k...

**Nielkie** · 11-04-2007, 10:55 PM

65%? And you only have 2 maps? I'd say that's about 15%. Only release it when you have 20+ maps - the last thing we need is another RPG Proof-of-concept that will get dropped after less than a month.

**Sturmeh** · 11-05-2007, 12:12 AM

How many quests do u plan to get to before blizzard give you a Seize and Desist? xD

**placo23** · 11-05-2007, 01:20 AM

But... 3 maps? When do you plan to release it? Are the maps easy to be created? Maybe if it accepts custom maps that are easy to be created, you don't even need to bother with maps creation.

**Moose** · 11-05-2007, 02:03 AM

Screenshots?

**Xsjado7** · 11-05-2007, 06:10 AM

um, somehow i think a 2-d version wouldnt work very well...

**placo23** · 11-05-2007, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Xsjado7

um, somehow i think a 2-d version wouldnt work very well...

Hell yeah! I didn't pay atention to this detail, but I agree with you... I think it'll be so pacman

**JustChris** · 11-05-2007, 08:48 AM

Forget the missing maps or that it's 2D. I think the biggest challenge would have to be making it online and MMO. I don't know how you do networking with LUA but doesn't seem like it will do much on the PSP.

It would be stupid for Blizzard to send a C&D for this, though. When Halo Zero got released, Bungie just appreciated the work of the fans.

**Highsight** · 11-05-2007, 09:23 AM

Screenshots, or fail. Seriously, I want to know how you plan on making this work, even with NetLib, making an MMO would be hard.

eldiablov · 11-05-2007, 09:39 AM

Warcraft was originally made in 2d -_-

Which brings me to my next point.

Just download the psx version ...

**Mazor55** · 11-05-2007, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eldiablov

Warcraft was originally made in 2d -_-

Which brings me to my next point.

Just download the psx version ...

The "psx version" was Warcraft II. Warcraft, Warcraft II, and Warcraft III are all strategy games while World of Warcraft is an (MMO)RPG. It would be kind of strange to tell people who wants a RPG to get a strategy game.

**Turkfather** · 11-05-2007, 10:33 AM

Make me a version that only works for 5 hours, otherwise ill get addicted like all the otherz

wormakajeremy · 11-05-2007, 11:21 AM

thanks for the application.

**hakk3r** · 11-05-2007, 11:50 AM

I have decided that most of you are right, even though you were harsh you are right, I will be expanding the amount of maps and the map sizes.
Don't expect anything fancy for the map scrolling for I have just started coding.
There will still only be 1 store.
Still only 3 or 4 buildings.

Putting it online seems pretty simple to me, all I need to do is have a player upload his stats, X and Y position, Map, and username then have other PSP's blit players that are in the same map as them.

Thanks for the comments but try not to be so harsh.

**Bubbletune** · 11-05-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hakk3r

I have decided I will not ever be releasing this project on this website, if you want it you can spend 5 hours looking through random PSP sites for it. Mod's you can close this board.

Why? This is just a 'real' developer forum, we don't always need the best stuff, we just don't want too much announcements of things that are far from finished. If everyone would do that, this whole forum would be full of announcements.

Hardrive · 11-05-2007, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hakk3r

Thanks for being the only one to appreciate it.

1.) I just started coding so you guys should stop being *******s and give me some suggestions.
2.) If you going to flame me dont even bother posting
3.) ITS ONLY THE ALPHA! I want to prove to myself that this game is actually possible.
4.) It will continue to be created and updated for more than a month, I have no plans of ever ending this project thus far.

Now I understand why all these people stopped developing, it's because of all the flamers on this board. Maybe if you had given these people the chance they would have continued the project.

EDIT:
I have decided I will not ever be releasing this project on this website, if you want it you can spend 5 hours looking through random PSP sites for it. Mod's you can close this board.

Honestly, I think you're being a bit overly critical of the comments. First off, many are skeptical. How are you going to make an MMO on the PSP. Have you thought about servers yet? Or is it not an MMO.

Secondly, saying that you have it working isn't enough these days, a few screenshots would be nice.

Next, we can't help you come up with quests without playing ANY of the game. It makes it a bit hard, not knowing the story line, or the character classes, or how the maps are laid out, or how advanced the game is.

Lastly, you can't call it WoW for licensing issues, and you can't use any of the terms from the game. In fact, if you did, it couldn't be hosted here anyway because of these licensing issues, so I hope you reconsider that too

If you want this thread closed, go ahead and PM me. Heck, if you want to discuss this, PM me, I'm always happy to talk. I just hope you reconsider. Even though these comments may be a bit... harsh... you can take them for what they're worth and try to improve your game. Or, you can pout and decide not to release it here, and not get a lot more exposure of your game to the scene. It's your choice.

**hakk3r** · 11-05-2007, 12:46 PM

I am sorry for my ignorance and would like to apologize. I will be releasing this game on these forums when the time comes.

**Highsight** · 11-05-2007, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hakk3r

Putting it online seems pretty simple to me, all I need to do is have a player upload his stats, X and Y position, Map, and username then have other PSP's blit players that are in the same map as them.

Ahh, I see, I thought when you said WoW you meant you were going to be making an MMO type game. (which would be exceedingly hard XD) Sorry if I was too harsh, good luck.

**tommy pees ALOT** · 11-05-2007, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hakk3r

Thanks for being the only one to appreciate it.

1.) I just started coding so you guys should stop being *******s and give me some suggestions.
2.) If you going to flame me dont even bother posting
3.) ITS ONLY THE ALPHA! I want to prove to myself that this game is actually possible.
4.) It will continue to be created and updated for more than a month, I have no plans of ever ending this project thus far.

Now I understand why all these people stopped developing, it's because of all the flamers on this board. Maybe if you had given these people the chance they would have continued the project.

EDIT:
I have decided I will not ever be releasing this project on this website, if you want it you can spend 5 hours looking through random PSP sites for it. Mod's you can close this board.

Good that Hardrive caught the original posted post. The first is a dead giveaway. He won't release this. The thought of starting off coding and to begin your first (few) projects as an MMO would be near impossible.

**hakk3r** · 11-05-2007, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highsight

Ahh, I see, I thought when you said WoW you meant you were going to be making an MMO type game. (which would be exceedingly hard XD) Sorry if I was too harsh, good luck.

Umm... It is going to be a MMO but I am nowhere near making it online that feature should come in the beta which won't be for a long time.

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Originally Posted by tommy pees ALOT

Good that Hardrive caught the original posted post. The first is a dead giveaway. He won't release this. The thought of starting off coding and to begin your first (few) projects as an MMO would be near impossible.

This isn't exactly my first project, it's my second, my first project was the LUA game menu (I am sure none of you heard of it because no one bothered to post on the forum). I wanted to create something that will really affect the way the homebrew community thinks about LUA games. I don't think it's an impossible feat, I think it would be quite easy to make an MMO in LUA you just need to know what your doing.

**nataku92** · 11-05-2007, 06:33 PM

Yeah to quote one of yaustar's posts:

Quote:

Originally Posted by yaustar

Let's shoot down that idea shall we?

Not a very good idea to start any kind of mmo project as a beginner, especially on the psp platform.

**hakk3r** · 11-05-2007, 07:26 PM

I wouldn't consider myself a beginner, I have been able to learn LUA quite easily during the past 4 months and I hope to learn more in the future. Besides I plan on this project taking a long time and creating smaller games while working on this one.

**nataku92** · 11-05-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hakk3r

I wouldn't consider myself a beginner

Quote:

Originally Posted by hakk3r

1.) I just started coding so you guys should stop being *******s and give me some suggestions.

lolwhut? But joking aside, you should try going through those links above and looking at the advice of more experienced developers.

a_noob · 11-05-2007, 09:14 PM

Phail.

**hakk3r** · 11-06-2007, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_noob

Phail.

So says, a noob

Besides no one has ever tried a MMO in LUA on the PSP or even in C/C++ for that matter so you guys wouldn't know if its really that hard.

**FreePlay** · 11-06-2007, 04:07 AM

[action=FreePlay]holds his tongue.[/action]

**placo23** · 11-06-2007, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hakk3r

So says, a noob

Besides no one has ever tried a MMO in LUA on the PSP or even in C/C++ for that matter so you guys wouldn't know if its really that hard.

Actually, if you were in the scene for at least 2 weeks, you'd know that a_noob is not really a Noob, it's just his nickname.

Also, if you want to stick to your idea, go for it, but don't ever come here talking about a project that has barelly started and get angry with negative responses

Do something fisrt, even if it shows a small progress, and then show it to us. That's the way we can help ya, and that's the way we can give you advices and some feed back.

Cheers

**headlesslizard** · 11-06-2007, 09:06 AM

EH lol, never going to happen. I dont even think a comercial MMORPG exsists for PSP?

**hakk3r** · 11-06-2007, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreePlay

[action=FreePlay]holds his tongue.[/action]

Why?

Quote:

Originally Posted by placo23

Actually, if you were in the scene for at least 2 weeks, you'd know that a_noob is not really a Noob, it's just his nickname.

Also, if you want to stick to your idea, go for it, but don't ever come here talking about a project that has barelly started and get angry with negative responses

Do something fisrt, even if it shows a small progress, and then show it to us. That's the way we can help ya, and that's the way we can give you advices and some feed back.

Cheers

I know he's not a noob and I am trying to reach my goals before releasing then I will release small updates on how everything is going and occasionally downloads.

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Originally Posted by headlesslizard

EH lol, never going to happen....

And I intend to prove you wrong.

11-04-2007, 08:15 PM	#1
hakk3r Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 103 Trader Feedback: 0	[Alpha]WoWPSP I am getting ready release the first version of WoWPSP. WoWPSP is a 2-D version of World of Warcraft coded in LUA. Hopefully by the time I reach BETA you will be able to go online and play with other users. ALPHA Specs: Scrolling maps (only 2 areas, working on better scrolling system) maybe 1 quest (PM me ideas for quests) 3 Buildings Simple shop 1 option (music on/off) Selection between 2 characters (Character selection does not affect game play besides attacks and player image) I would say I am approximately 65% complete.(I will update the percentage up until the first release) These are some of the things that might be included in the alpha release. It should be finished in about 2 weeks or less. If you have a suggestion for the game please post about it below and I will see if it is within my grasp of coding. Just so I don't have to keep stating this, It WILL be a MMO which means online! Last edited by hakk3r; 11-06-2007 at 01:34 PM..

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11-04-2007, 10:55 PM	#3
Nielkie Developer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 549 Trader Feedback: 0	65%? And you only have 2 maps? I'd say that's about 15%. Only release it when you have 20+ maps - the last thing we need is another RPG Proof-of-concept that will get dropped after less than a month. __________________

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11-05-2007, 01:20 AM	#5
placo23 Developer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 726 Trader Feedback: 0	But... 3 maps? When do you plan to release it? Are the maps easy to be created? Maybe if it accepts custom maps that are easy to be created, you don't even need to bother with maps creation. __________________ Placo23 Spoiler for Wanna see my Apps?: Time Traveler v1.0 UPDATED Bonjour v1.0 Why not donate and become part of this selected list? Spoiler for Donators: DarkSeveN - 5.100.000 --DylanDangles--2.000.000 Zuiver - 100.000 AlwaysAmiYumi - 10.338.63

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11-05-2007, 06:10 AM	#7
Xsjado7 Developer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 657 Trader Feedback: 0	um, somehow i think a 2-d version wouldnt work very well... __________________ -ROCK STATION-

11-05-2007, 08:48 AM	#9
JustChris Developer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 206 Trader Feedback: 0	Forget the missing maps or that it's 2D. I think the biggest challenge would have to be making it online and MMO. I don't know how you do networking with LUA but doesn't seem like it will do much on the PSP. It would be stupid for Blizzard to send a C&D for this, though. When Halo Zero got released, Bungie just appreciated the work of the fans. __________________ GameSnooper - Random drawing of gaming news The 32 Bit Shell - My development blog (also includes gaming oddities)

11-05-2007, 09:23 AM	#10
Highsight Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 300 Trader Feedback: 0	Screenshots, or fail. Seriously, I want to know how you plan on making this work, even with NetLib, making an MMO would be hard.

11-05-2007, 09:39 AM	#11
eldiablov Banned for LIFE Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: East London, England Posts: 2 Trader Feedback: 0	Warcraft was originally made in 2d -_- Which brings me to my next point. Just download the psx version ...

11-05-2007, 10:33 AM	#13
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11-05-2007, 11:21 AM	#14
wormakajeremy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 38 Trader Feedback: 0	thanks for the application.

11-05-2007, 11:50 AM	#15
hakk3r Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 103 Trader Feedback: 0	I have decided that most of you are right, even though you were harsh you are right, I will be expanding the amount of maps and the map sizes. Don't expect anything fancy for the map scrolling for I have just started coding. There will still only be 1 store. Still only 3 or 4 buildings. Putting it online seems pretty simple to me, all I need to do is have a player upload his stats, X and Y position, Map, and username then have other PSP's blit players that are in the same map as them. Thanks for the comments but try not to be so harsh. Last edited by hakk3r; 11-05-2007 at 12:30 PM..

11-05-2007, 12:46 PM	#18
hakk3r Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 103 Trader Feedback: 0	I am sorry for my ignorance and would like to apologize. I will be releasing this game on these forums when the time comes.

11-05-2007, 07:26 PM	#23
hakk3r Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 103 Trader Feedback: 0	I wouldn't consider myself a beginner, I have been able to learn LUA quite easily during the past 4 months and I hope to learn more in the future. Besides I plan on this project taking a long time and creating smaller games while working on this one.

11-05-2007, 09:14 PM	#25
a_noob No longer a community member. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Over there. Posts: 666 Trader Feedback: 0	Phail.

11-06-2007, 04:07 AM	#27
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11-06-2007, 09:06 AM	#29
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