[Release] LPHMv2

[homemister91]

Hey All,
Here is the next version of LuaPlayerHM.
Thankyou all who helped with the beta testing and contributed ideas.

Included in the download file is a Readme file, Eboot, And some demo scripts.

There will be a PDF file, That will contain all of the functions with examples. Thx to LXD
Please give feed back to LPHM Forum

Download LPHMv2 HERE

Regards
Homemister

[Vonsta]

thankyou very much for the update Homemister

[dan369]

I'll try it now, i'll tell you what i think

[Mr_Shizzy]

Awesome

Thanks for the update

[Nielkie]

No proper documentation.
Non-OO design

Also, no source? You are making Brunni cry. :'(

[Vonsta]

Nielkie.. if you mean the layout of the ReadMe file being crappy, open it with Wordpad instead of Notepad...

sorry if that insults your intelligence, it was an obvious remark

[CoMbiNa]

Awesome, waited for this!

Why you haven't posted it here?
http://luaplayerhm.xtreemhost.com/

[Nielkie]

Originally Posted by Vonsta

Nielkie.. if you mean the layout of the ReadMe file being crappy, open it with Wordpad instead of Notepad...

sorry if that insults your intelligence, it was an obvious remark

What I mean is that any API should have detailed documentation of every function (its inputs, outputs, what it does, and examples of usage) upon release.

[CoMbiNa]

Originally Posted by Nielkie

What I mean is that any API should have detailed documentation of every function (its inputs, outputs, what it does, and examples of usage) upon release.

definitely, I also think so.
But he said that he will release it soon

[Vonsta]

hehe ok, i reeeally dont know about any of that.. i thought it would have been a silly suggestion.. you've got "Developer" under your name, so i shoulda known you wouldnt need to be reminded of something that obvious

judging by the size of the readme now, id hate to see how big it would be if all those functions were fully detailed... youd need BookR and a week of free time to get through it all and that would be longer if it were me

this site has truly humbled me.. i used to think i kinda "knew my stuff" in regards to PSP (and other things) but i really do have alot to learn.

[mootjeuh]

@Homemister91:
it's a question about Lua Player HM 8, when I replace my homebrew's old EBOOT with the Lua Player HM 8 Eboot (as I usually do), the homebrew starts up fine but when I try to move the cursor it doesn't move at all. But when I re-swap the Eboots, the cursor moves. And also; the font functions don't work ?!

BTW: if you where wondering which homebrew then it's Windows Vista Ultimate PSP Series

[malliet]

Nice release Homemister

[homemister91]

Originally Posted by mootjeuh

@Homemister91:
it's a question about Lua Player HM 8, when I replace my homebrew's old EBOOT with the Lua Player HM 8 Eboot (as I usually do), the homebrew starts up fine but when I try to move the cursor it doesn't move at all. But when I re-swap the Eboots, the cursor moves. And also; the font functions don't work ?!

BTW: if you where wondering which homebrew then it's Windows Vista Ultimate PSP Series

The new Eboot has different functions and doesnot support the older screen and image functions. You may have to rewrite some of the old code, or i can fix up the code for free. just put a post at the LuaPlayerHm forums.

[Insert_Witty_Name]

Nice to see the official release HM, well done.

I will second Nielkie's request for proper documentation however, if anything it saves you numerous potential support problems.

[Digikid13]

Thanks Very much I will port my Pong app to this ^^.

[Light_AleX]

You have finally released it!

Great Job! Used your Final Beta for random thoughts () and it works!

-Light_AleX

[homemister91]

Thx IWN for the kind words. And there will be a official documentation of the functions with proper examples.
Thx to all who have had to wait for soo long and i will be glad to help anyone that need help with porting old lua app's to the new LPHMv2.

I wish you all a merry Christmas and a happy new year.

[Nielkie]

Once again, any chance of releasing the source?

[homemister91]

hey Nielkie,
I assume that your a nice person, but you are a wanker to alot of people on the forums. So i'll put it to you straight. If you want the source soo bad, Then make your own mod of the LuaPlayer. So put your own effort in.

[TurtlesPwn]

Originally Posted by homemister91

hey Nielkie,
I assume that your a nice person, but you are a wanker to alot of people on the forums. So i'll put it to you straight. If you want the source soo bad, Then make your own mod of the LuaPlayer. So put your own effort in.

Asking about the possibility of the release of the source to a modification of an open source project now makes someone a wanker? Crytek is giving out the source to crysis, but a simple mod that adds all the newer SDK functions as well as some music libs and a frontend to a different graphics lib has to be closed-source?

You refuse to take a little bit of time out to make good usable documentation, so why not release the source so someone else can do it?

The point is not to make his own, if he wanted to make his own, he would, and he would document it well so people can actually use it.The idea is for you to release yours so he can see it to learn, to evaluate, and possibly to give feedback. LP is opensource and the next release of PGE will be.

And who the hell are you to tell someone to put more effort in when all you're doing is making stupid shells and applications easier and easier? That's about all that I see done with LPHM that absolutely needs it.

[homemister91]

he is not a wanker because he wants the source. It is because he treats other people on the forum inappropriately. rather then discouraging he should encourage them. BTW some one else is making a full documentation of the LuaPlayerHM.
Sorry that the effort thing came over a bit hard, but if he relay wants something from the source. Then he should try to make it, then ask for help. And if he does that then i am more then happy to help him and let him see that part of the source.
I mean after all, look at your signature. And the steps that you have layed out.
I do not discourage releasing the source. But ATM, LPHMv2 means a lot to me and i may release the source at a latter point in time.
but to make you all happy i will release the source of all previous LuaPlayerHM's.

[Light_AleX]

Originally Posted by homemister91

I mean after all, look at your signature. And the steps that you have layed out.

Totally agreed.

Originally Posted by homemister91

I do not discourage releasing the source. But ATM, LPHMv2 means a lot to me and i may release the source at a latter point in time.
but to make you all happy i will release the source of all previous LuaPlayerHM's.

Homemister91, you don't have to do that. You have the right to keep it and not give it even though it wouldn't be used anymore. Releasing source sometimes is to make you happy as well because you think others will treat it carefully.

Don't make decisions where you release source just to make other people 'happy'.

To the others:

If you have a comment, comment nicely. Rephrase what you have to say if you think it could provoke them. Maybe, what they make would not generate a lot of difference to your world, it doesn't mean you have to put it down. LuaPlayerHMv2 means a lot to homemister91, so respect him and his work.

Think about it: Have you ever heard Dark_AleX comment "You guys suck and should release all your sources because what will that do do to my awesome Custom Firmwares! Go shut yourself up."

Think about it. Everyone has a place.

-Light_AleX

[TurtlesPwn]

Is that better? After all I simply must be a biased ******* because I made my old signature months before LPHMv2 came out.

Do you seriously think Nielkie is asking for the source out of inability to make something similar himself? There's a difference between asking for the source so one can copy (like the reason people want DAX's source, remember all the BS 3.40CFWs after WC's leak?) and so one can learn or just look out of curiosity. You're not some god, and as far as I can tell, Nielkie is not a worse programmer than you. Don't act like he is.

And by the way, how is someone else making a full complete documentation if nobody can have the source to see what the functions truly do?

[Light_AleX]

There is something called a beta tester.
Second, no one said anyone is biased.
Third, the more you argue, the worse your status decreases. (If you get what I mean)

@Nielkie,

Can you please ask TP to calm down and stop arguing for the sake of arguing?
It seems like he's is more on your side.

Back-on-topic:

homemister91, you need to update your website.

-Light_AleX

[TurtlesPwn]

"Second, no one said anyone is biased."
That's exactly what HM was implying when he drew attention to my old signature.

And beta testers test the program out early, they don't get the source code to dig through.

[Light_AleX]

I don't think homemister91 actually meant it in a really insulting way.

He knows people who will make the document.

Please, stop arguing for the sake of arguing. It's getting very tedious.

-Light_AleX

[mootjeuh]

Originally Posted by homemister91

The new Eboot has different functions and doesnot support the older screen and image functions. You may have to rewrite some of the old code, or i can fix up the code for free. just put a post at the LuaPlayerHm forums.

Thx I'll poste the code right now, but you haven' told what's wrong with the Font functions.

[Light_AleX]

Lots of the functions have their colon or dot changed.
E.g.
screen.flip()
screen:flip()
screen:flipScreen()


Something like that, have not used it yet.

-Light_AleX

[homemister91]

Thx Light_Alex, and TP i have given the source to some of my beta testers and developers. They are trusted people and are helping write the documentation. I am not saying that i am a better programmer then anyone else, and nor was i trying to offend you in any way,shape or form.
So lets not dwell on the past, but look to make a better future for the Lua and psp community.
Do you accept a truce?

mootjeuh: Thx for the post. There in't anything wrong with the font functions, but they have changed. And so have some of the other functions. Thx Light_AleX for helping out with the explanation.

Sorry all who have had to read this lot of posts between myself and TP. I apologizes.

[TurtlesPwn]

1. Are you happy with my new sig or not?
2. I know you weren't trying to offend me, but that doesn't change the straightup insult to nielkie. And from this:
"but if he relay wants something from the source. Then he should try to make it, then ask for help. And if he does that then i am more then happy to help him and let him see that part of the source."
It is obvious that you are trying to tutor and baby.

Just respond to people's questions. He asked for the source, you insulted him. I really don't see any reason for you NOT to release the source if you're such an advocate of moving lua forward and improving it. If Shine had never released LP's source, you'd be out of luck.