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How Many Of You Think Sony Shouldn't Care About All The Homebrew

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Old 10-25-2005, 04:52 PM   #1
 
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Default How Many Of You Think Sony Shouldn't Care About All The Homebrew

I Mean, In What Way Does It Affect Sony, It Is Our Psp We Paid For It And Now We Can Do Whatever We Want with it
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I think that homebrew itself is unstoppable, HOWEVER, I think that theres a limit when we start doing illegal things that can get people arrested for Using Sony's devices and therefore getting Sony less money. I support Sony all the way for making this heavenly device now sitting on my desk, but i think that harmless games and small applications shouldnt be minded
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I think that homebrew itself is unstoppable, HOWEVER, I think that theres a limit when we start doing illegal things that can get people arrested for Using Sony's devices and therefore getting Sony less money. I support Sony all the way for making this heavenly device now sitting on my desk, but i think that harmless games and small applications shouldnt be minded
I agreee and disagree. first i agree that homebrew is unstopable. ppl will stack up on psp's if they can and downgrade them all and them load them up w/ homebrew. the only way sony can stop homebrew is if they somehow team up w/ every memorycard co. and put the updated eboot in it but hidden enough that we cant find it w/ any program. next i disagree with you bu the way you say that they make your psp collect dust. sony shoukld help us out on homebrew cuz this coding scene is apart of our lives. homebrew has help us all in some way. i use my psp to wake up, type notes or essays at school, and also all the other capabilities that it can do. also sony should leave us alone since it is helping us figure out how to make software for our own consoles. like psix, its practically going to be software for our psp but yet not deleting flash0 from our psp's. so yeah, thats what i think.
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lol I just made a big post on this in the "New EBOOT LOADER" thread. (it's above this thread I believe)
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look at this the other way around, if sony allowed homebrew and we could launch all apps, it would get boring after some time...
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The thing is, they dont give a rats ass about Homebrew. What they want to stop are ISOs and Loaders.
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Yeah- I think if there was a way they could allow homebrew and stop ISO's, Loadesr and emulators, they'd do it. I hope.
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You know, had the downgrader not been released, we would have non-ISO homebrew on the 2.0 firmware, and that would be kind of like the best of both worlds for people who want homebrew but not piracy. Obviously, I am not complaining about the downgrader as I think it was a nice piece of work by MPH and I used it to downgrade in order to do some dev work, but just imagine if it didn't come out... there would have been a lot more noise over GTA requiring 2.0.
 
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yeah i agree. but think of a PSP like a car. u buy it its YOURS so u can mod the car trick it out ect.(or make it not street legal) its the same principle, its urs u should be able to add things mod ect. and also i dont think its gonna create smiles when some guy at sony gets an email saying 'The new firmware verison has been explioted what are we gonna do?' then they make a new version the it gets cracked again. but if we could stop ISO's loaders and emus think of all the possibilites of homebrew and unique apps we could use.
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Piracy is killing the PSP. I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

Sony isn't at all interested in the whole homebrew scene except as it concerns users potential abilities to run illegal software. What this means is that, so long as there is the possibility for someone to run something illegal through the same mechanisms that allow for non-illegal activities, Sony will feel obliged to put some kind of restriction on the system to keep it from happening. Sure, some of us may only play Squarez, or use DJPSP, or PSPReader, but there are some of us who are using the same exploits that make those things possible to run bootleg ISOs. What's more, we have to remember that emulators are being used for illegal purposes, too. The emulators themselves are legal, but using ROMs, either of software or of system chips to run the emulators (think MAC.ROM for Basilisk or TOS.ROM for CaSTaway, and KICK.ROM for UAE) is illegal unless you actually dumped those ROMs yourself from your originals (not downloaded copies of games you own from the net).

Sony's primary interests are in keeping new developers willing to develop for the system. If developers begin to think that their software will be pirated if they release it for the PSP, they will not want to release it on the PSP (this was the fatal blow to the DreamCast). If Sony wants developers to develop for the PSP, they owe it to those developers to make the PSP as lock-tight as possible against any kind of user-originated code.

I know that these things tend to upset many people around here, but these are the facts - Sony isn't trying to keep you from having fun, they need to keep the fun legal and keep developers happy. The sad truth is that if you wanted a machine to program, run homebrewed software on, and that could fit in your pocket, you'd have been better off buying a Pocket PC or Palm Pilot. The PSP may be able to run homebrew, but it was built to run pre-packaged software from software manufacturers, and that is what Sony will always work to maintain it as.
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I'm sure Sony doesn't want anyone running Homebrew. they probably care a great deal about it.

Sony will lose money on the sale of every PSP for a year or 2. That's because at first, it cost more to make a PSP than what they are selling it for. They plan to make their money back by selling games.

If people only buy their PSPs for homebrew games, fewer retail games will be bought, and sony will lose money. Maybe you still buy a few PSP games even with your hombrew, but fact remains, if you are running hombrew, you probably don't have as many UMDs as others.

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Ill admit to saying i have spent WAY more time on homebrew than on the games designed for the PSP. My homebrew playing time is at LEAST threefold of my UMD playing time. Hell ive watched more videos than played games!

If alot of people are doing the same things as me then Sony should be prepared to lose more...

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Sony could care less about people using homebrew. Sony cares about people who pirate UMDs and the only way they can stop or at least try to stop it is to remove all homebrew. If people weren't pirates, then we would have all the homebrew we want. STOP PIRATING ALREADY AND GET A JOB YOU CHEAPSKATES!
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I understand that these ISO loaders arent legal if you download the ISO's off the internet, HOWEVER, I also find it easier to play the games you already own off your memory stick. So you can't simply CUT all the ISO loaders, just the hosting sites, or maybe you could devise a way to make sure there is the supposed UMD in your drive and match the signitures before the ISO is activated "once activated does not need to be activated again"
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Sony could care less about people using homebrew. Sony cares about people who pirate UMDs and the only way they can stop or at least try to stop it is to remove all homebrew. If people weren't pirates, then we would have all the homebrew we want. STOP PIRATING ALREADY AND GET A JOB YOU CHEAPSKATES!
^smart man. Sony doesnt care about you playing genesis and reading pdf files. Frankly verrrry few people are running out and buying psps for homebrew. But, im sure there are much more people buying them because they dont have to buy any games.
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I understand that these ISO loaders arent legal if you download the ISO's off the internet, HOWEVER, I also find it easier to play the games you already own off your memory stick. So you can't simply CUT all the ISO loaders, just the hosting sites, or maybe you could devise a way to make sure there is the supposed UMD in your drive and match the signitures before the ISO is activated "once activated does not need to be activated again"
And then they could return the game and still have the iso...There are so many flaws behind it that it just cant be dealt with. And actually i find playing games off the memory stick and playing the off the umd to be pretty equal...
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it was piracy that killed nokias ngage, wasnt it cracked within 3 days of it being released lmao
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And then they could return the game and still have the iso...There are so many flaws behind it that it just cant be dealt with. And actually i find playing games off the memory stick and playing the off the umd to be pretty equal...
IH i simply meant that i didnt have to carry around the UMD, I used UMD dumper and i am against piracy! I see how there would be flaws...maybe a random test to reactivate it...
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