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**Hedzx** · 12-10-2005, 11:01 AM

is getting a code, modding it, and making your own game out of it wrong??

**NeilR** · 12-10-2005, 11:07 AM

If the code is not freely available and you haven't followed the rules governed by the licensing method the author has used to protect his work.. than yes it's wrong.

**.smith** · 12-10-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HEDZX

is getting a code, modding it, and making your own game out of it wrong??

to me? yes it is wrong, because it doesnt make you a better programmer.

**Hedzx** · 12-10-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HEDZX
is getting a code, modding it, and making your own game out of it wrong??

to me? yes it is wrong, because it doesnt make you a better programmer.

True. What if i took a bit of it for my game?and after seeing it, i get what is happening i.e functions and stuff

**z357x** · 12-10-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HEDZX

True. What if i took a bit of it for my game?and after seeing it, i get what is happening i.e functions and stuff

Studying a code and rewriting into you code is fine, If anyone disputes that it's a legal case. I'm speaking about any software that's everbeen made. Even windows is a rip of macOS and more recently there was that thing with BDnet versus Battle.Net

**Hedzx** · 12-10-2005, 11:46 AM

OH!! iwuz just talking about lua code......sorry

**z357x** · 12-10-2005, 11:48 AM

haha, still same case. It's caled reverse coding or somthing like that. It's a word play off reverse enginering

**.smith** · 12-10-2005, 01:09 PM

conclusion:
write your own code.

**TeamOverload** · 12-10-2005, 01:19 PM

just look at it for examples if you need to know a thing or too, but dont just copy the whole thing and change one or two things

**Shatterdome** · 12-10-2005, 01:29 PM

It depends...like lot's of the people in the PSP dev scene they are giving out their source to be freely used and studied. The thing is, don't look at a side scrolling shooter, and say hey I wanna make one, and then grab someones source and change the graphics and a few other minor things and say it's your game.

Instead you should have a goal in mind, and then seek out the tools you need to complete the task. Really that's what programming is, solving problems with various tools at your disposal. So if you grab a function from someones code to draw a .bmp to the screen, great...make sure you understand what it's doing...the big thing is comming up with your own ideas on how to accomplish your goal.....

**peenee ks** · 12-10-2005, 01:39 PM

I say that it's alright to copy a few things but not too much of it, because then you're pretty much just stealing the code. Unless of course, you say it's a mod of that app and give the creator some credits! :mrgreen:

**Vaza** · 12-10-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by peenee

I say that it's alright to copy a few things but not too much of it, because then you're pretty much just stealing the code. Unless of course, you say it's a mod of that app and give the creator some credits! :mrgreen:

yeah, like attack of the mutants.
speaking of that, i have released a new mod for it (Pacman! version), it is in this forum somewhere, if u want it just go there.

**Dylema** · 12-10-2005, 02:36 PM

I say you can copy small functions like displying png's and music and stuff like that. But you should come up with most of the code your self.

**cyanide** · 12-10-2005, 09:16 PM

look, every budding programmer does it...
ive done it myself in the past and without any guilt...
but whenever ive done that, ive included the credits as a part of the program...

i dont see any wrong in using someone else's freely available code and making it better...

but stealing someone's code and changing a few lines and showing it off as your own is bad... thats why many people dont release the source code

12-10-2005, 11:01 AM	#1
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12-10-2005, 11:48 AM	#7
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12-10-2005, 01:19 PM	#9
TeamOverload Rock Star FamousLastX Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CT\| FW: 4.01 M33-2 Posts: 11,844 Trader Feedback: 0	just look at it for examples if you need to know a thing or too, but dont just copy the whole thing and change one or two things __________________

12-10-2005, 01:29 PM	#10
Shatterdome Shatterdome Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,486 Trader Feedback: 0	It depends...like lot's of the people in the PSP dev scene they are giving out their source to be freely used and studied. The thing is, don't look at a side scrolling shooter, and say hey I wanna make one, and then grab someones source and change the graphics and a few other minor things and say it's your game. Instead you should have a goal in mind, and then seek out the tools you need to complete the task. Really that's what programming is, solving problems with various tools at your disposal. So if you grab a function from someones code to draw a .bmp to the screen, great...make sure you understand what it's doing...the big thing is comming up with your own ideas on how to accomplish your goal..... __________________ PSN: Shatterdome

12-10-2005, 11:07 AM	#2
NeilR Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,010 Trader Feedback: 0	If the code is not freely available and you haven't followed the rules governed by the licensing method the author has used to protect his work.. than yes it's wrong.

12-10-2005, 01:09 PM	#8
.smith Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 93 Trader Feedback: 0	conclusion: write your own code.

12-10-2005, 01:39 PM	#11
peenee ks Join Date: Aug 2005 Real First Name: Matt Location: California Just Played: DJ Max Portable Clazziqua Posts: 558 Trader Feedback: 0	I say that it's alright to copy a few things but not too much of it, because then you're pretty much just stealing the code. Unless of course, you say it's a mod of that app and give the creator some credits! :mrgreen: __________________ Proud owner and user of a Classic Fat PSP (PSP-1001 TA-079v2).

12-10-2005, 02:36 PM	#13
Dylema Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: B-Town, Washington Posts: 57 Trader Feedback: 0	I say you can copy small functions like displying png's and music and stuff like that. But you should come up with most of the code your self.

12-10-2005, 09:16 PM	#14
cyanide Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: meh Posts: 2,799 Trader Feedback: 0	look, every budding programmer does it... ive done it myself in the past and without any guilt... but whenever ive done that, ive included the credits as a part of the program... i dont see any wrong in using someone else's freely available code and making it better... but stealing someone's code and changing a few lines and showing it off as your own is bad... thats why many people dont release the source code

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