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**1magus** · 03-11-2006, 09:54 AM

I've noticed a lot of people here are Programmers or know some sort of programming knowledge and some how seem to know the PSP all over and how it operates. I just realized I barely know any programming knowledge and have been meaning to learn how to program and eventually get to Video Game Programming. I guess my main Question here is what language did any of you start in, like which is the easiest? And once you caught on to more Advanced programming did you just pick up the rest from testing or did you learn it from another Language like C++. And the reason I post this here is because I also wanted to know some PSP programming knowledge but the PSP programming guide won't help me since I'm currently still PSPless and still don't know much language.
I want to start now heh before I graduate from College and end up with a job I hate I'd much rather make Video Games no matter how much work it really takes. Any help or advice would be appreciated.

**Realn0whereman** · 03-11-2006, 03:46 PM

i started in lua....... still in lua >.<

**Xodiac21** · 03-11-2006, 03:47 PM

same here. use lua u can run the prog. on your p.c

**1magus** · 03-11-2006, 04:33 PM

Is there a tutorial anywhere for Lua?

**Xodiac21** · 03-11-2006, 04:37 PM

here's lua player for windows jus extract to c drive: http://www.luaplayer.org/luaplayerwindows-0.14.zip

go here for toutorials: http://www.evilmana.com/tutorials/

to test your programs enter c:\luaplayerwindows\luapl ayer *****.lua in start/run
(**** is the name of the script or w/e that u write)

happy coding!

**1magus** · 03-11-2006, 07:07 PM

Thank you and btw is this any good? Game Studio

michael_dack_2005 · 05-24-2006, 12:29 PM

I am using Lua PLayer Windows and everything works fine until i try to load an image. Is it something that i am doing wrong or not?

**Xodiac21** · 05-24-2006, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael_dack_2005

I am using Lua PLayer Windows and everything works fine until i try to load an image. Is it something that i am doing wrong or not?

you may have an error in the screen:blit or the image load....

most of the time....hell ALL of the time, in lua if sumthing isn't working u messed up the code somewhere. (lot's of times it's a REAL small error 2)

**soccerPMN** · 05-24-2006, 12:35 PM

I started in C, and personally I reccomend it, as when you do get into more advanced stuff, you won't have to switch languages to do advanced functions.

**gracz54** · 05-24-2006, 12:38 PM

Lua is nice, but C is more advanced. And more pro.

**soccerPMN** · 05-24-2006, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gracz54

Lua is nice, but C is more advanced. And more pro.

Yea that's a good way of putting it.

**mnky** · 05-24-2006, 12:39 PM

c++ owns everything.

**SG57** · 05-24-2006, 04:19 PM

mnky - No, C++ donest own everything... ASM (MIPS) or basically assembly does...

Soccer needs to stick up for MIPS a little seeing as how he's learning it...

05-24-2006, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerPMN

Yea that's a good way of putting it.

Yeah, it is.
C is too hard though.

**Yeldarb** · 05-24-2006, 04:36 PM

C isn't that hard.

I started with Actionscript, then PHP, then C++, then Java. I like C/C++ the best (followed closely by PHP).

It doesn't matter really what language you learn. Pick one and go with it. If you get the programming logic down, you'll be prepared to pick up other languages' syntaxes easily.

For the PSP you have two main options, C/C++ and Lua. I have some tutorials up for both, you can look through and see which you like better before starting. C/C++ is more "powerful" (the Lua interpreter is written in C/C++). But Lua is a fine language to start with.

**Fanjita** · 05-24-2006, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SG57

mnky - No, C++ donest own everything... ASM (MIPS) or basically assembly does...

Soccer needs to stick up for MIPS a little seeing as how he's learning it...

Meh, most professional programmers steer clear of assembly unless they absolutely have to use it.

There's a time and a place for ASM, sometimes nothing else will do, but most of the rest of the time you'll have higher productivity, fewer bugs, and better maintainability, by using the highest level language that's appropriate.

So by those criteria, LUA probably owns on the PSP, for the majority of applications. Fast and simple.

**TeamOverload** · 05-24-2006, 04:52 PM

Yeah I really like lua for PSP deving. The best part is that it can be edited on the go with apps like PSPNotepad, and there is no compiling. Very convinient.

**whitehawk** · 05-24-2006, 04:54 PM

Yeldarb already beat me to it, but ya..

http://www.psp-programming.com/tutorials/

You can also get help on the forums

**Grimfate126** · 05-24-2006, 05:00 PM

speaking about lua, i have just found a bug in it. whenver i load a lot of images, that are high in detail, luaplayer loads some of them , and then gives me an error saying it cant load any more. i asked youresame, and he said that luaplayer .16, OR .19 took up 1 MB ram for EACH image, which is wayyyy too much. off topic i know, but i didnt know whrere else to post it.

if anyone knows a soultion, please tell me, or pm me.

P.S. the images load fine in luaplayer WINDOWS.

P.S. 2 - it doesnt matter what you use.

**whitehawk** · 05-24-2006, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimfate126

speaking about lua, i have just found a bug in it. whenver i load a lot of images, that are high in detail, luaplayer loads some of them , and then gives me an error saying it cant load any more. i asked youresame, and he said that luaplayer .16, OR .19 took up 1 MB ram for EACH image, which is wayyyy too much. off topic i know, but i didnt know whrere else to post it.

if anyone knows a soultion, please tell me, or pm me.

P.S. the images load fine in luaplayer WINDOWS.

P.S. 2 - it doesnt matter what you use.

Well, simply there wasn't enough memory. and I guess you could use a differnent version of LP.

03-11-2006, 09:54 AM	#1
1magus Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 944 Trader Feedback: 0	Programming I've noticed a lot of people here are Programmers or know some sort of programming knowledge and some how seem to know the PSP all over and how it operates. I just realized I barely know any programming knowledge and have been meaning to learn how to program and eventually get to Video Game Programming. I guess my main Question here is what language did any of you start in, like which is the easiest? And once you caught on to more Advanced programming did you just pick up the rest from testing or did you learn it from another Language like C++. And the reason I post this here is because I also wanted to know some PSP programming knowledge but the PSP programming guide won't help me since I'm currently still PSPless and still don't know much language. I want to start now heh before I graduate from College and end up with a job I hate I'd much rather make Video Games no matter how much work it really takes. Any help or advice would be appreciated.

03-11-2006, 03:46 PM	#2
Realn0whereman Mindless Self Indulgence Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: afk Posts: 7,212 Trader Feedback: 0	i started in lua....... still in lua >.< __________________ PSN:realn0whereman NEW MSI ALBUM APRIL 29TH: IF orgasm

03-11-2006, 03:47 PM	#3
Xodiac21 Tha Sigerator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 4,047 Trader Feedback: 0	same here. use lua u can run the prog. on your p.c __________________ - - - - Somewhere Lurking in THA SHADOWS - - - - Check Out My Myspace HERE Comment My Qj Wiki

03-11-2006, 04:37 PM	#5
Xodiac21 Tha Sigerator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 4,047 Trader Feedback: 0	here's lua player for windows jus extract to c drive: http://www.luaplayer.org/luaplayerwindows-0.14.zip go here for toutorials: http://www.evilmana.com/tutorials/ to test your programs enter c:\luaplayerwindows\luapl ayer ***.lua in start/run ( is the name of the script or w/e that u write) happy coding! __________________ - - - - Somewhere Lurking in THA SHADOWS - - - - Check Out My Myspace HERE Comment My Qj Wiki**

05-24-2006, 12:35 PM	#9
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03-11-2006, 04:33 PM	#4
1magus Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 944 Trader Feedback: 0	Is there a tutorial anywhere for Lua?

03-11-2006, 07:07 PM	#6
1magus Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 944 Trader Feedback: 0	Thank you and btw is this any good? Game Studio

05-24-2006, 12:29 PM	#7
michael_dack_2005 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2 Trader Feedback: 0	I am using Lua PLayer Windows and everything works fine until i try to load an image. Is it something that i am doing wrong or not?

05-24-2006, 12:38 PM	#10
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05-24-2006, 12:39 PM	#12
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05-24-2006, 04:19 PM	#13
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05-24-2006, 04:36 PM	#15
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05-24-2006, 04:52 PM	#17
TeamOverload Rock Star FamousLastX Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CT\| FW: 4.01 M33-2 Posts: 11,844 Trader Feedback: 0	Yeah I really like lua for PSP deving. The best part is that it can be edited on the go with apps like PSPNotepad, and there is no compiling. Very convinient. __________________

05-24-2006, 05:00 PM	#19
Grimfate126 Your Fate is Grim... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,269 Trader Feedback: 0	speaking about lua, i have just found a bug in it. whenver i load a lot of images, that are high in detail, luaplayer loads some of them , and then gives me an error saying it cant load any more. i asked youresame, and he said that luaplayer .16, OR .19 took up 1 MB ram for EACH image, which is wayyyy too much. off topic i know, but i didnt know whrere else to post it. if anyone knows a soultion, please tell me, or pm me. P.S. the images load fine in luaplayer WINDOWS. P.S. 2 - it doesnt matter what you use. __________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------