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**Stoicism** · 05-25-2006, 10:11 PM

I remember there was a lot (tons?) of speculation a month or so ago that someone had cracked into the PSP's serial port and thus was able to exploit it with this hack. Was there any truth to this? And, what is the progress on this WIP hack?

**youresam** · 05-25-2006, 10:24 PM

Have you seen what psplink can do? It can communicate through the serial.

**Goldrush** · 05-25-2006, 10:25 PM

sounds like udder bull**** to me but meh...

**Art** · 05-25-2006, 10:29 PM

No, that is legit.
There are SDK samples for serial, and a serial terminal comes with Lowser,
and both require an interface like this.
What is there to progress?

**TeamOverload** · 05-26-2006, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Art

No, that is legit.
There are SDK samples for serial, and a serial terminal comes with Lowser,
and both require an interface like this.
What is there to progress?

Possibly flashing through the serial port as some have speculated

**Kos** · 05-26-2006, 08:25 AM

what is this for?

**youresam** · 05-26-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kos

what is this for?

I believe those pictures were for controlling the PSP with your computer as if your computer was the little white remote dealy.

**Kos** · 05-26-2006, 10:39 AM

oh oki...seems abit pointless in that respect but i guess it could lead to better things

**youresam** · 05-26-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kos

oh oki...seems abit pointless in that respect but i guess it could lead to better things

I dont think the point was to make a remote on the computer, but more of learning about it. A remote on the computer is very pointless, but its little things like this that lead to big things such as serial communication with psplink.

**Kos** · 05-26-2006, 02:18 PM

ahh...thought as much. well i hope anyone working on something like this gets as far as making use applications from this method

**Stoicism** · 05-26-2006, 02:36 PM

So is it possible to construct a downgrader via the serial port?

**youresam** · 05-26-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by borat

So is it possible to construct a downgrader via the serial port?

Theoretically, yes. But it hasnt been proven.

**Kos** · 05-26-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by youresam

Theoretically, yes. But it hasnt been proven.

im thinking less with the downgrading and more with the reflashing bricked psp's

**youresam** · 05-26-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kos

im thinking less with the downgrading and more with the reflashing bricked psp's

Thats what I mean. The people at ps2dev think that Sony reflashes the bricked PSPs with the serial.

05-26-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by youresam

Thats what I mean. The people at ps2dev think that Sony reflashes the bricked PSPs with the serial.

That's been going around for a while. No one has made any progress with it though.

**Zettablade** · 05-26-2006, 04:25 PM

This would be so awsome! You could make a fountune from noobs who upgraded(me(2.6)) or bricked their psp. Like selling a cable and software too do this, until sony sues you for some wierd legal thing(could they).

**IndianCheese** · 05-26-2006, 04:45 PM

Let me straighten things out here.

That little hole next to the headphone jack is the "serial port" (k, we got that down.) Serial ports are used on computers, but are becoming more and more obsolete because of USB. They are still used frequently with computer monitors and printers. That jack, if you have a compatible wire, can be connected to a PC or a PSP dev kit. It is believed by some that the serial port is the way Sony flashes PSPs sent to them. The good thing about serial hacking is that it works whether the PSP is on or off, which means that a bricked PSP could be flashed back to life, or any PSP could change to/from any version. You can not buy these cords at the store--I believe that they only come with the dev kit, not completely sure. Even the dev kit has a serial port on the front of it, further proving the flashing theory.

So there.

**Zettablade** · 05-26-2006, 04:54 PM

Have any of you seen a devkit for real? I have. My mom's boyfriend is the lead programming for the sms for psp and is currently working on over the hedge for the psp. Yeah, it's pretty cool, but in his office he has a dev kit. :P
But the point is, devkits don't come with the equipment to flash the psp, because sont is so tight developers have to use like 1.00 to make games. So yeah. They don't any access to umds and such, so getting the umd devkit seems kinda weird. And I know for a fact that they don't can't flash the psp to a lower firmware version. So even if you got access to a devkit, you couldn't flash the psp, because sony's not giving the technology to the devolpers.

05-26-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zettablade

Have any of you seen a devkit for real? I have. My mom's boyfriend is the lead programming for the sms for psp and is currently working on over the hedge for the psp. Yeah, it's pretty cool, but in his office he has a dev kit. :P
But the point is, devkits don't come with the equipment to flash the psp, because sont is so tight developers have to use like 1.00 to make games. So yeah. They don't any access to umds and such, so getting the umd devkit seems kinda weird. And I know for a fact that they don't can't flash the psp to a lower firmware version. So even if you got access to a devkit, you couldn't flash the psp, because sony's not giving the technology to the devolpers.

Sony is crazy, they don't even trust developers.

**Zettablade** · 05-26-2006, 04:59 PM

The worst part is my mom is always complaining about him complaining about not having access to umd's and such. Sont's anti homebrew thing is totally affecting devolpers. Like how they can't have higher firmware versions (he said they could have some sort of network if they could) and not allowing them access to umd's(if they could access umds, they could make faster games, but they have to use memcards, which load way faster then umds)

**jaxxster** · 05-26-2006, 05:17 PM

i wish we knew someone who was a sony insider. Who knew excatly how to reflash a psp and how to sign eboots. He could become a psp god if he created a "sign your own eboot" program. Alas, reality check

**Zettablade** · 05-26-2006, 05:23 PM

that's what i thought I could be when I found out he made games for the psp, but oh well.

**Dan!** · 05-26-2006, 05:29 PM

omg i hope we can get alot out of that damn little port!

**Zettablade** · 05-26-2006, 05:59 PM

we could, but chances are we'de have to make a lot of trips to radio shack to even make a little bit of progress. we'de probably have to install the port on our comps, so we'de need to get that, which is next to impossible. Then we'de need to make or get a connector, which is also next to impossible. But if we get those two things done, it would be real easy to flash our psp's. Then I could finally have a 1.50!!!!(instead of the gay no kernal access 2.60)

**Stoicism** · 05-26-2006, 07:57 PM

Okay, so let's make an agenda here. xD
1. Successful link a PSP to a PC from a serial port.
2. Enter the PSP's BIOS with #1 as a transfer method.
3. Attempt to reflash/mod the firmware.

**youresam** · 05-26-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zettablade

we could, but chances are we'de have to make a lot of trips to radio shack to even make a little bit of progress. we'de probably have to install the port on our comps, so we'de need to get that, which is next to impossible. Then we'de need to make or get a connector, which is also next to impossible. But if we get those two things done, it would be real easy to flash our psp's. Then I could finally have a 1.50!!!!(instead of the gay no kernal access 2.60)

The program is downloadable that sends the pspremote commands, and the actual pspremote has the connector.

And are you serious about your mom's boyfriend having the official SDK?

**Zettablade** · 05-26-2006, 09:05 PM

Yeah, his name is Gordon Ludlow, he works for Amaze. It's something like.

05-26-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zettablade

Yeah, his name is Gordon Ludlow, he works for Amaze. It's something like.

That's pretty neat, he must know about Sony's secret plans.

**Zettablade** · 05-26-2006, 09:10 PM

Nope, not at all. Sony keeps all their devolpers in the dark, or so he says...

05-26-2006, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zettablade

Nope, not at all. Sony keeps all their devolpers in the blue, or so he says...

Google says that Gordon Ludlow has been married for 55 years.

05-25-2006, 10:24 PM	#2
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05-26-2006, 08:25 AM	#6
Kos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cornwall/England Posts: 2,452 Trader Feedback: 0	what is this for? __________________ [quote=Urza the Tyrant][B][COLOR=Purple] Its hard to convince people of your opinion when you type like a moron.[/COLOR][/B][/quote]

05-26-2006, 10:39 AM	#8
Kos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cornwall/England Posts: 2,452 Trader Feedback: 0	oh oki...seems abit pointless in that respect but i guess it could lead to better things __________________ [quote=Urza the Tyrant][B][COLOR=Purple] Its hard to convince people of your opinion when you type like a moron.[/COLOR][/B][/quote]

05-26-2006, 02:18 PM	#10
Kos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cornwall/England Posts: 2,452 Trader Feedback: 0	ahh...thought as much. well i hope anyone working on something like this gets as far as making use applications from this method __________________ [quote=Urza the Tyrant][B][COLOR=Purple] Its hard to convince people of your opinion when you type like a moron.[/COLOR][/B][/quote]

05-26-2006, 04:25 PM	#16
Zettablade Join Date: May 2006 Location: Programming or Farming Mudkips Posts: 657 Trader Feedback: 0	This would be so awsome! You could make a fountune from noobs who upgraded(me(2.6)) or bricked their psp. Like selling a cable and software too do this, until sony sues you for some wierd legal thing(could they). __________________ Current Project: Citrus

05-25-2006, 10:11 PM	#1
Stoicism Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 272 Trader Feedback: 0	How's the serial port progress going? I remember there was a lot (tons?) of speculation a month or so ago that someone had cracked into the PSP's serial port and thus was able to exploit it with this hack. Was there any truth to this? And, what is the progress on this WIP hack?

05-25-2006, 10:25 PM	#3
Goldrush is an idiot Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 350 Trader Feedback: 0	sounds like udder bull**** to me but meh...

05-25-2006, 10:29 PM	#4
Art Bush Programmer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,557 Trader Feedback: 0	No, that is legit. There are SDK samples for serial, and a serial terminal comes with Lowser, and both require an interface like this. What is there to progress?

05-26-2006, 02:36 PM	#11
Stoicism Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 272 Trader Feedback: 0	So is it possible to construct a downgrader via the serial port?

05-26-2006, 04:45 PM	#17
IndianCheese I love LocationFree! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Park, PA Posts: 134 Trader Feedback: 0	Let me straighten things out here. That little hole next to the headphone jack is the "serial port" (k, we got that down.) Serial ports are used on computers, but are becoming more and more obsolete because of USB. They are still used frequently with computer monitors and printers. That jack, if you have a compatible wire, can be connected to a PC or a PSP dev kit. It is believed by some that the serial port is the way Sony flashes PSPs sent to them. The good thing about serial hacking is that it works whether the PSP is on or off, which means that a bricked PSP could be flashed back to life, or any PSP could change to/from any version. You can not buy these cords at the store--I believe that they only come with the dev kit, not completely sure. Even the dev kit has a serial port on the front of it, further proving the flashing theory. So there.

05-26-2006, 04:54 PM	#18
Zettablade Join Date: May 2006 Location: Programming or Farming Mudkips Posts: 657 Trader Feedback: 0	Have any of you seen a devkit for real? I have. My mom's boyfriend is the lead programming for the sms for psp and is currently working on over the hedge for the psp. Yeah, it's pretty cool, but in his office he has a dev kit. :P But the point is, devkits don't come with the equipment to flash the psp, because sont is so tight developers have to use like 1.00 to make games. So yeah. They don't any access to umds and such, so getting the umd devkit seems kinda weird. And I know for a fact that they don't can't flash the psp to a lower firmware version. So even if you got access to a devkit, you couldn't flash the psp, because sony's not giving the technology to the devolpers. __________________ Current Project: Citrus

05-26-2006, 04:59 PM	#20
Zettablade Join Date: May 2006 Location: Programming or Farming Mudkips Posts: 657 Trader Feedback: 0	The worst part is my mom is always complaining about him complaining about not having access to umd's and such. Sont's anti homebrew thing is totally affecting devolpers. Like how they can't have higher firmware versions (he said they could have some sort of network if they could) and not allowing them access to umd's(if they could access umds, they could make faster games, but they have to use memcards, which load way faster then umds) __________________ Current Project: Citrus

05-26-2006, 05:17 PM	#21
jaxxster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 666 Trader Feedback: 0	i wish we knew someone who was a sony insider. Who knew excatly how to reflash a psp and how to sign eboots. He could become a psp god if he created a "sign your own eboot" program. Alas, reality check

05-26-2006, 05:23 PM	#22
Zettablade Join Date: May 2006 Location: Programming or Farming Mudkips Posts: 657 Trader Feedback: 0	that's what i thought I could be when I found out he made games for the psp, but oh well. __________________ Current Project: Citrus

05-26-2006, 05:29 PM	#23
Dan! Yummy Apple's Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chatham, Ontario Posts: 1,026 Trader Feedback: 0	omg i hope we can get alot out of that damn little port! __________________ [CENTER][IMG]http://img1.imageshack.us/img1/5719/dansigon9.png[/IMG] [/CENTER] [COLOR="Gray"][CENTER]MOD EDIT: sorry homie, no large advertising around these parts...[/CENTER][/COLOR]

05-26-2006, 05:59 PM	#24
Zettablade Join Date: May 2006 Location: Programming or Farming Mudkips Posts: 657 Trader Feedback: 0	we could, but chances are we'de have to make a lot of trips to radio shack to even make a little bit of progress. we'de probably have to install the port on our comps, so we'de need to get that, which is next to impossible. Then we'de need to make or get a connector, which is also next to impossible. But if we get those two things done, it would be real easy to flash our psp's. Then I could finally have a 1.50!!!!(instead of the gay no kernal access 2.60) __________________ Current Project: Citrus

05-26-2006, 07:57 PM	#25
Stoicism Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 272 Trader Feedback: 0	Okay, so let's make an agenda here. xD 1. Successful link a PSP to a PC from a serial port. 2. Enter the PSP's BIOS with #1 as a transfer method. 3. Attempt to reflash/mod the firmware.

05-26-2006, 09:05 PM	#27
Zettablade Join Date: May 2006 Location: Programming or Farming Mudkips Posts: 657 Trader Feedback: 0	Yeah, his name is Gordon Ludlow, he works for Amaze. It's something like. __________________ Current Project: Citrus

05-26-2006, 09:10 PM	#29
Zettablade Join Date: May 2006 Location: Programming or Farming Mudkips Posts: 657 Trader Feedback: 0	Nope, not at all. Sony keeps all their devolpers in the dark, or so he says... __________________ Current Project: Citrus

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