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**SG57** · 10-02-2006, 11:24 PM

After seeing the thread in the PSP-Hacks section as well as the author's enw method oflaunching hombrew, I thought Id try it, and what do you know, the MUSIC thumnail viewing has the same effect as the PHOTO thumbnails. This means we can launch TIFF homebrew with a most likely different caching behaviour, resulting in a possibly more stable launching method.

EDIT
Because of recenet bickering and thick headed-ness, not too many people can see the original founder of the MUSIC method. Assuming all who look here would have looked there, the author of that thread would be suffienct enough to be 'credit'. I guess not, so the founder of the MUSIC viewer launching method is dylandangles, and if you look more closely, I havent said I found this anywhere, rather I was just confirming it.
EDIT

Here is a video for proof, as well as a teaser for you 2.x+'er's that can't downgrade just yet

**Note** The Devhook capturing plugin for some reason doesn't capture '-' or '_', therefore the 1/2 the boader and the pad is gone, but you get the idea

Anyways, it's important to know the utt-most BASICS of what's happening within the TIFF file called 'loadbin.tif'.

Inside loadbin.tif, hex edit it to edit it else just view it with notepad, you'll find a string around... (im too lazy to look up the offset

) Better yet, just scroll down until you reach alot of NULL bytes (0), scroll up from there until you come across a chunk of symbols, at the bottom you should see the path to the bin to be loaded. Better yet, here's a tutorial on howto get Tetris up and running through the MUSIC directory...

1. Get the tetris game, look at its contents. You should see a JPG, a BIN and a TIF. We only need the TIF and BIN.
2. Take your favorite Hex Editor (google it for one) open up the TIF. Scroll down until you reach alot of 0's, once there, scroll up until you find a chunk of symbols, followed by a path (or do a ASCII string search for 'ms0').
3. Now, this path is the pathway to the .bin file to be loaded. AKA what game is to be loaded. Since we don't want to make a mess out of just one game, we'll keep our files together. Edit the path from saying something or other:

Code:

ms0:/psp/photo/tetris/tetris.bin

to

Code:

ms0:/psp/music/tetris/tetris.bin

4. Note, most hex editors don't support deletion, rather over-write. So just type over 'photo' with 'music'.
5. Now, we have our TIF image when displayd on the PSP, to load the tetris game .bin from psp/music/tetris/tetris.bin. Now we need to do the main part of this newfound stabability trick... View the TIF image from the MUSIC directory.
6. Simple: Copy hte TETRIS folder your working in (you should have edited the TIFF image in it, as well as kept the tetris.bin in it) to the MUSIC folder.

That's it! No need to rename loadbin.tif or whatever .tif you have to .jpg, as the MUSIC thumbnail viewer works just liek the PHOTO viewer, meaning it supports TIF images as thumbnails

Tell me if i should add anything!

EDIT

Guess what?

That's what...

After careful mods here and there, I can now successfully launch any TIFF homebrew EVERYTIME. The Movie browser obviously has... I wanna say 0 caching behaviour or whatever it is that causes un-stable results. After the first run with teh Movie directory, it loads anything, instantly. the first run through, it takes about 10 seconds to load up.

Let me know if anyone is ineterested in this new found launching method (I suppose I founded it too

) else Ill just keep using it for my personal benefit

I love finding this stuff...

@Devs (i suppose) - I havent a clue whether these 2 new homebrew launching methods have any influence on a memory dump leaving traces of NIDs/names (maybe MUSIC leaving sceAudio*) or whether the blockade stopping flash0 access is bypassed, but surely, they should be tried for such.

**Fanjita** · 10-03-2006, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sg57

Let me know if anyone is ineterested in this new found launching method (I suppose I founded it too ) else Ill just keep using it for my personal benefit

I love finding this stuff...

How do you manage to have the gall to claim this as your own discovery, after having flamed the original finder for "obvious BS" in the thread that actually proposes it?

http://forums.qj.net/f-psp-hacks-9/t...rew-72864.html

You, sir, are a bounder and a cad. I'm seriously disappointed.

**DeMoN X** · 10-03-2006, 02:28 AM

I take it this would have the same effect if ran from the saved data menu? Since you could replace ICON1.PNG with the TIFF but the PSP will still decode it as a TIFF even though it has .PNG as its extension?

**Mister Chief** · 10-03-2006, 02:36 AM

SG57, nice job of stealing credit for someone elses find.

**CoBrA2168** · 10-03-2006, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanjita

How do you manage to have the gall to claim this as your own discovery, after having flamed the original finder for "obvious BS" in the thread that actually proposes it?

http://forums.qj.net/f-psp-hacks-9/t...rew-72864.html

You, sir, are a bounder and a cad. I'm seriously disappointed.

Yea why would you do that?

**Aphonia** · 10-03-2006, 04:21 AM

I'm no expert, but isn't this method a little better? And isn't this tutorial a lot more clear?

As long as SG57 didn't learn this specific method from someone else, nothing in his post is deceptive. It can be read that way, but only if you don't think it through, want to misunderstand it, or jump on the bandwagon.

**tommydanger** · 10-03-2006, 04:37 AM

would you please be so kind and take off the tetris gif ?
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ili/video1.gif
13MB :/

10-03-2006, 04:47 AM

Wow.. You could've at least given a line of credits, don't you think?

**madsoul** · 10-03-2006, 04:56 AM

lol, attention seaker... ^_^ good thing anyway

**BBundy** · 10-03-2006, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMarioKarters

Wow.. You could've at least given a line of credits, don't you think?

Yea.

SG57; you should be ashamed of yourself.

**madsoul** · 10-03-2006, 05:27 AM

anyway, the arkanoid game looks cool...

**Fanjita** · 10-03-2006, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aphonia

I'm no expert, but isn't this method a little better? And isn't this tutorial a lot more clear?

As long as SG57 didn't learn this specific method from someone else, nothing in his post is deceptive. It can be read that way, but only if you don't think it through, want to misunderstand it, or jump on the bandwagon.

The point is, it is the same method that he denounced earlier. All he's done is make it more complex by requiring a hex edit to achieve the same results.

Now, it's useful to have some testing, and that's a good thing, but it's by no means a new find (compared to the original thread).

**madsoul** · 10-03-2006, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanjita

The point is, it is the same method that he denounced earlier. All he's done is make it more complex by requiring a hex edit to achieve the same results.

Now, it's useful to have some testing, and that's a good thing, but it's by no means a new find (compared to the original thread).

any link to the original thread?

**Aphonia** · 10-03-2006, 06:05 AM

I'm seasoning my foot right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanjita

The point is, it is the same method that he denounced earlier. All he's done is make it more complex by requiring a hex edit to achieve the same results.

I haven't tried SG57's method (no hex editor), but doesn't it eliminate the problem of:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylandangles

for some reason after you play the game a few times it turns the (folder).jpg into an actual jpeg picture instead of a tiff image named .jpg.

?

**Grimfate126** · 10-03-2006, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Björk

any link to the original thread?

http://forums.qj.net/f-psp-hacks-9/t...rew-72864.html

it was on the first page..

anyway, i cant test this cause my devhook is not working but im glad 2.7ers can get 100% stable HB.

BTW, SG57, just edit your post and give ATLEAST SOME credit to the original founder.

**SG57** · 10-03-2006, 06:40 AM

Fanjita - You mis-interpreted COMPLETELY. If you re-read, I said without any word from the orifiginal finder of the MUSIC one on how he got it running just by copying over when the .bin loader isn't like that -- it has the path to load the bin hardcoded in it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by "SG57

Im questioning your theory, for simply renaming and re-placing hte files, doenst mean itll load the .bin file. If you look at the hex data of loadbin.tif, youll see it loads from the apps name in photo folder...

'ms0:/psp/photo/tetris/tetris.bin' as an example...

What with you not meantioning, nor elaborating on such a thing, this is B$.

You obviously made it out wrong, everyone had questions and mixed answers, and just to point something out, that the .bin is hard coded to be loaded from the loadtif, if the author doesnt elaborate on this, than this is B$.

As for everyone else - where did i say i found the MUSIC one up? Thats right -- i didnt. I said I was just confirming with a video + tut on how to use the MUSIC one, and later I made the MOVIE one. How am I not giving credit? I said the thread over at PSPHacks sub-forum, thinking abyone who looked in the other one will look here, seemed pretty obvious to me. But sorry, geesh, credit for finding the MUSIC launching method, and AKA in this thread as 'the creator of the thread in PSPHacks section' goes to dylandangles.

Honestly, i dont care what you all think as I never said I found the MUSIC one, rather I confirmed it to be true and working. As for hte tutorial, looks like i definately copied it from dylandangles. Yup, must be true.

**buenojuju** · 10-03-2006, 06:41 AM

wow taking credit from dy, what an ass.

**SG57** · 10-03-2006, 06:47 AM

Where did I take credit? The video - no, the tut - no, saying i found the MUSIC method - no. Oh wow...

Please, someone tell me how I took credit and what credit taken?

**PopcOrn DeVil** · 10-03-2006, 07:10 AM

"Let me know if anyone is ineterested in this new found launching method (I suppose I founded it too ) else Ill just keep using it for my personal benefit

I love finding this stuff..."

That part?

**Dreamkillr** · 10-03-2006, 07:22 AM

I don't think this way is any more stable than the other way. Most people that are having trouble loading tiff hb with 2.8. Just need to move the photo folder out of the main dir. I had tons of problems loading tiff before i moved the photo folder to psp folder. Now it loads everytime and i don't even use the slideshow method.

**rubixcube6** · 10-03-2006, 07:27 AM

what is this -- http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ili/video1.gif

is it tiff breakout? i havent herd of this

the only ones i know about are from here -- http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...18421#M2527439

Nickster80 · 10-03-2006, 12:28 PM

Well, there is one problem with this method, you can only launch one piece of homebrew at a time. Also, it launches right away so you can't play music.

**The PANIC.** · 10-03-2006, 12:39 PM

Yes, but can you use more then one homebrew thing in the music folder?

Or just one?

Nickster80 · 10-03-2006, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QJ Queen.

Yes, but can you use more then one homebrew thing in the music folder?

Or just one?

I think it's just one.

**The PANIC.** · 10-03-2006, 01:12 PM

I guess so. And BOOKRU won't work for me in the music folder.

It won't work whenever I have any other TIFF game/app on there.
But it works fine single! WTF. =X

**MSeven** · 10-03-2006, 03:04 PM

would this work with hen c?

**SG57** · 10-03-2006, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PopcOrn DeVil

"Let me know if anyone is ineterested in this new found launching method (I suppose I founded it too ) else Ill just keep using it for my personal benefit

I love finding this stuff..."

That part?

That is for the MOVIE launching method, note how its AFTER the MOVIE video.

As for homebrew laucnhing through MUSIC, I do believe you can create a thumbnail, make it hte oldest to be modified, and it should show as the thumbnail of hte folder. Just as hte PHOTO folder has its thumbnail viewing setup. That isnt tested, but im sure it's true. Than again, the only reasonit works in the MUSIC section is because the TIF becomes hte thumbnail, thus viewing it... Unless the MUSIC section supports more than one sub-folder, it will only launch one. Oh and same for MOVIE since there arent any sub-folders within the MOVIE section (i dont think...). I wish to try getting flash0 write access on these 2 new methods, but I fear fileassistant for TIFF has it commented out... Else, ill just use Slasher's example of writing to flash (in hopes the SDK supports the functions...).

**davidthefat** · 10-03-2006, 04:42 PM

u kno its pretty obvious... u can even run the update like that ms:/psp/game/update/eboot.php (the real uopdates not hb ones)

**kyelewis** · 10-04-2006, 07:49 PM

Sigh. Now i'm just waiting for someone to say "Hey, you can launch tiff homebrew through the RSS feeds and they do this weird red screen flashy thing at the start does this mean we can get kernel on 2.8"

But if launching through the MUSIC menu actually is more stable, that's only a good thing.

(RSS isn't very stable by the way; nor very flexible, so don't bother :P)

**SG57** · 10-04-2006, 07:54 PM

Stable or not, if traces of things NOT in the original method (PHOTO) are found in the memory dump, itd be worth while to search all methods in hopes to botain all nids for when/if the eloader comes (i say If since there isnt any REAL evidence it amy come out for 2.8, but Fanjita's word, which is nice and trustworhy, but ya never know unfortunately)

10-02-2006, 11:24 PM	#1
SG57 ...in a dream... Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,957 Trader Feedback: 0	[Video/Tut] Launching TIFF Homebrew - MUSIC & MOVIE (more stable) After seeing the thread in the PSP-Hacks section as well as the author's enw method oflaunching hombrew, I thought Id try it, and what do you know, the MUSIC thumnail viewing has the same effect as the PHOTO thumbnails. This means we can launch TIFF homebrew with a most likely different caching behaviour, resulting in a possibly more stable launching method. EDIT Because of recenet bickering and thick headed-ness, not too many people can see the original founder of the MUSIC method. Assuming all who look here would have looked there, the author of that thread would be suffienct enough to be 'credit'. I guess not, so the founder of the MUSIC viewer launching method is dylandangles, and if you look more closely, I havent said I found this anywhere, rather I was just confirming it. EDIT Here is a video for proof, as well as a teaser for you 2.x+'er's that can't downgrade just yet Note The Devhook capturing plugin for some reason doesn't capture '-' or '_', therefore the 1/2 the boader and the pad is gone, but you get the idea Anyways, it's important to know the utt-most BASICS of what's happening within the TIFF file called 'loadbin.tif'. Inside loadbin.tif, hex edit it to edit it else just view it with notepad, you'll find a string around... (im too lazy to look up the offset ) Better yet, just scroll down until you reach alot of NULL bytes (0), scroll up from there until you come across a chunk of symbols, at the bottom you should see the path to the bin to be loaded. Better yet, here's a tutorial on howto get Tetris up and running through the MUSIC directory... 1. Get the tetris game, look at its contents. You should see a JPG, a BIN and a TIF. We only need the TIF and BIN. 2. Take your favorite Hex Editor (google it for one) open up the TIF. Scroll down until you reach alot of 0's, once there, scroll up until you find a chunk of symbols, followed by a path (or do a ASCII string search for 'ms0'). 3. Now, this path is the pathway to the .bin file to be loaded. AKA what game is to be loaded. Since we don't want to make a mess out of just one game, we'll keep our files together. Edit the path from saying something or other: Code: ms0:/psp/photo/tetris/tetris.bin to Code: ms0:/psp/music/tetris/tetris.bin 4. Note, most hex editors don't support deletion, rather over-write. So just type over 'photo' with 'music'. 5. Now, we have our TIF image when displayd on the PSP, to load the tetris game .bin from psp/music/tetris/tetris.bin. Now we need to do the main part of this newfound stabability trick... View the TIF image from the MUSIC directory. 6. Simple: Copy hte TETRIS folder your working in (you should have edited the TIFF image in it, as well as kept the tetris.bin in it) to the MUSIC folder. That's it! No need to rename loadbin.tif or whatever .tif you have to .jpg, as the MUSIC thumbnail viewer works just liek the PHOTO viewer, meaning it supports TIF images as thumbnails Tell me if i should add anything! EDIT Guess what? That's what... After careful mods here and there, I can now successfully launch any TIFF homebrew EVERYTIME. The Movie browser obviously has... I wanna say 0 caching behaviour or whatever it is that causes un-stable results. After the first run with teh Movie directory, it loads anything, instantly. the first run through, it takes about 10 seconds to load up. Let me know if anyone is ineterested in this new found launching method (I suppose I founded it too ) else Ill just keep using it for my personal benefit I love finding this stuff... @Devs (i suppose) - I havent a clue whether these 2 new homebrew launching methods have any influence on a memory dump leaving traces of NIDs/names (maybe MUSIC leaving sceAudio) or whether the blockade stopping flash0 access is bypassed, but surely, they should be tried for such. __________________ ...you'll never know what it's like... spending your whole life in a dream...* Launch a Kitten out of a Cannon and win real cash! Checkout my newly updated site for all my projects (Kitten Cannon, BOXHEAD, Light Cycle 3D) Last edited by SG57; 10-03-2006 at 06:45 AM..

10-03-2006, 02:36 AM	#4
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10-03-2006, 04:21 AM	#6
Aphonia Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 142 Trader Feedback: 0	I'm no expert, but isn't this method a little better? And isn't this tutorial a lot more clear? As long as SG57 didn't learn this specific method from someone else, nothing in his post is deceptive. It can be read that way, but only if you don't think it through, want to misunderstand it, or jump on the bandwagon. Last edited by Aphonia; 10-03-2006 at 04:34 AM..

10-03-2006, 06:47 AM	#18
SG57 ...in a dream... Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,957 Trader Feedback: 0	Where did I take credit? The video - no, the tut - no, saying i found the MUSIC method - no. Oh wow... Please, someone tell me how I took credit and what credit taken? __________________ ...you'll never know what it's like... spending your whole life in a dream... Launch a Kitten out of a Cannon and win real cash! Checkout my newly updated site for all my projects (Kitten Cannon, BOXHEAD, Light Cycle 3D)

10-03-2006, 12:39 PM	#23
The PANIC. wake the deadxx Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lewiston, ME. Posts: 2,314 Trader Feedback: 0	Yes, but can you use more then one homebrew thing in the music folder? Or just one? __________________ [CENTER][IMG]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m261/webdesignblocktwo/panicsiggy.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] [CENTER] [U]And through it all,[/U] [I]How could you cry for me?[/I] [B]'Cause I don't feel bad about it.[/B] [U]So shut your eyes, Kiss me goodbye.[/U] [I]And SLEEP. Just sleep.[/I] [B]The hardest part, is letting go of your dreams.[/B] [/CENTER]

10-03-2006, 02:28 AM	#3
DeMoN X Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,029 Trader Feedback: 0	I take it this would have the same effect if ran from the saved data menu? Since you could replace ICON1.PNG with the TIFF but the PSP will still decode it as a TIFF even though it has .PNG as its extension?

10-03-2006, 04:37 AM	#7
tommydanger Developer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 166 Trader Feedback: 0	would you please be so kind and take off the tetris gif ? http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ili/video1.gif 13MB :/

10-03-2006, 04:47 AM	#8
TheMarioKarters Guest Posts: n/a	Wow.. You could've at least given a line of credits, don't you think?

10-03-2006, 04:56 AM	#9
madsoul Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: stevens bumhole Posts: 10,308 Trader Feedback: 0	lol, attention seaker... ^_^ good thing anyway

10-03-2006, 05:27 AM	#11
madsoul Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: stevens bumhole Posts: 10,308 Trader Feedback: 0	anyway, the arkanoid game looks cool...

10-03-2006, 06:41 AM	#17
buenojuju Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: N.C. fayetteville Posts: 160 Trader Feedback: 0	wow taking credit from dy, what an ass.

10-03-2006, 07:10 AM	#19
PopcOrn DeVil Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western Australia Posts: 1,044 Trader Feedback: 0	"Let me know if anyone is ineterested in this new found launching method (I suppose I founded it too ) else Ill just keep using it for my personal benefit I love finding this stuff..." That part?

10-03-2006, 07:22 AM	#20
Dreamkillr Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 422 Trader Feedback: 0	I don't think this way is any more stable than the other way. Most people that are having trouble loading tiff hb with 2.8. Just need to move the photo folder out of the main dir. I had tons of problems loading tiff before i moved the photo folder to psp folder. Now it loads everytime and i don't even use the slideshow method.

10-03-2006, 07:27 AM	#21
rubixcube6 Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 85 Trader Feedback: 0	what is this -- http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ili/video1.gif is it tiff breakout? i havent herd of this the only ones i know about are from here -- http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...18421#M2527439

10-03-2006, 12:28 PM	#22
Nickster80 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48 Trader Feedback: 0	Well, there is one problem with this method, you can only launch one piece of homebrew at a time. Also, it launches right away so you can't play music.

10-03-2006, 01:12 PM	#25
The PANIC. wake the deadxx Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lewiston, ME. Posts: 2,314 Trader Feedback: 0	I guess so. And BOOKRU won't work for me in the music folder. It won't work whenever I have any other TIFF game/app on there. But it works fine single! WTF. =X __________________ [CENTER][IMG]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m261/webdesignblocktwo/panicsiggy.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] [CENTER] [U]And through it all,[/U] [I]How could you cry for me?[/I] [B]'Cause I don't feel bad about it.[/B] [U]So shut your eyes, Kiss me goodbye.[/U] [I]And SLEEP. Just sleep.[/I] [B]The hardest part, is letting go of your dreams.[/B] [/CENTER]

10-03-2006, 03:04 PM	#26
MSeven Designs Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,395 Trader Feedback: 0	would this work with hen c? __________________

10-03-2006, 04:42 PM	#28
davidthefat Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 146 Trader Feedback: 0	u kno its pretty obvious... u can even run the update like that ms:/psp/game/update/eboot.php (the real uopdates not hb ones)

10-04-2006, 07:49 PM	#29
kyelewis Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 93 Trader Feedback: 0	Sigh. Now i'm just waiting for someone to say "Hey, you can launch tiff homebrew through the RSS feeds and they do this weird red screen flashy thing at the start does this mean we can get kernel on 2.8" But if launching through the MUSIC menu actually is more stable, that's only a good thing. (RSS isn't very stable by the way; nor very flexible, so don't bother :P)

10-04-2006, 07:54 PM	#30
SG57 ...in a dream... Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,957 Trader Feedback: 0	Stable or not, if traces of things NOT in the original method (PHOTO) are found in the memory dump, itd be worth while to search all methods in hopes to botain all nids for when/if the eloader comes (i say If since there isnt any REAL evidence it amy come out for 2.8, but Fanjita's word, which is nice and trustworhy, but ya never know unfortunately) __________________ ...you'll never know what it's like... spending your whole life in a dream... Launch a Kitten out of a Cannon and win real cash! Checkout my newly updated site for all my projects (Kitten Cannon, BOXHEAD, Light Cycle 3D)

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