ok tiff there is no instructions for...

[davidthefat]

making tiffsdk.x ... so how do i do it?????

[Adiuvo]

Programming I presume?

There are no tutorials for TIFF coding. No idea myself.

PM SG57, as he is a very good TIFF dev.

[davidthefat]

Originally Posted by _Axel_

Programming I presume?

There are no tutorials for TIFF coding. No idea myself.

PM SG57, as he is a very good TIFF dev.

no i dont need tutorial... but the makefile is missing info on making tiffsdk.x (for the pcp to use to make it)

[SG57]

Im a little lost here... The tiffsdk.x shouldnt need editing whatsoever. The tiffsdk.c however, can be edited. Alot of functions sys calls have been found out for 2.x+ but not all of them are stubbed and linked in the tiffsdk.c. Therefore, you must do it yourself. Just follow the pattern within tiffsdk.c all the other functions follow nad youll be fine.

data_type
function_name
( arguments )
{ asm ("syscall 0x0000;"); }

Than later in the init function...

linkFunctionByNID ( INSERT_ADDRESS , &function_name );

But i doubt when your just starting out youll need to mess with that, Forst start making small games and build from there Best of luck with what ever you want. If this isnt what you were talking about, feel free to better detail your question

Oh and if your talking about creating your own game from scratch, dont 'reinvent the wheel' just take the Tetris v1.1 source and delte all tetris related stuff leaving yourself with a blank template for any TIFF app that is compilable.

[davidthefat]

Originally Posted by SG57

Im a little lost here... The tiffsdk.x shouldnt need editing whatsoever. The tiffsdk.c however, can be edited. Alot of functions sys calls have been found out for 2.x+ but not all of them are stubbed and linked in the tiffsdk.c. Therefore, you must do it yourself. Just follow the pattern within tiffsdk.c all the other functions follow nad youll be fine.

data_type
function_name
( arguments )
{ asm ("syscall 0x0000;"); }

Than later in the init function...

linkFunctionByNID ( INSERT_ADDRESS , &function_name );

But i doubt when your just starting out youll need to mess with that, Forst start making small games and build from there Best of luck with what ever you want. If this isnt what you were talking about, feel free to better detail your question

Oh and if your talking about creating your own game from scratch, dont 'reinvent the wheel' just take the Tetris v1.1 source and delte all tetris related stuff leaving yourself with a blank template for any TIFF app that is compilable.

PSPSDK=$(shell psp-config --pspsdk-path)
PSPDEV=$(shell psp-config --pspdev-path)
INCLUDE=$(PSPSDK)/include

all: tetris

clean:
rm -rf *~ *.o *.elf *.bin *.s *.bin

CC = psp-gcc
CFLAGS := -D PSP -I $(INCLUDE) -W -Wall -O2 -G0 -fno-pic -mno-abicalls -w -fomit-frame-pointer

ASM = psp-as

tiffsdk.o: tiffsdk.c
# Optimisation level 2 (-O2) MUST be used.
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -O2 -S tiffsdk.c -o tiffsdk.s
$(ASM) tiffsdk.s -o tiffsdk.o

gfx.o: gfx.c gfx.h
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -S gfx.c -o gfx.s
$(ASM) gfx.s -o gfx.o

tetris.o: tetris.c gfx.h
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -S tetris.c -o tetris.s
$(ASM) tetris.s -o tetris.o

tetris: tetris.o gfx.o tiffsdk.o tiffsdk.x
$(PSPDEV)/bin/psp-ld -T tiffsdk.x -L$(PSPSDK)/lib tetris.o gfx.o tiffsdk.o -o tetris.elf
$(PSPDEV)/bin/psp-strip -s tetris.elf
$(PSPDEV)/bin/psp-objcopy -O binary tetris.elf restart.bin


thats the makefile... i only editted the file that it will make (the bin) but look it asks for tiffsdk.x but never makes it...

[SG57]

If it spits out a .bin for you (no errors) dont worry about it. fi its saying it cant find tiffsdk.x than you dont have it in the smae directory as your makefile.

[davidthefat]

it spit out a.out... is that it?? oh wait thats o kb and wen i open on a hew editor... its empty

[SG57]

No. Can you type 'make' in your TIFF apps directory and copy/paste the output here please?

[davidthefat]

C:\pspdev\restart>make
psp-gcc -D PSP -I C:/pspdev/psp/sdk/include -W -Wall -O2 -G0 -fno-pic -mno
lls -w -fomit-frame-pointer -S tetris.c -o tetris.s
psp-as tetris.s -o tetris.o
psp-gcc -D PSP -I C:/pspdev/psp/sdk/include -W -Wall -O2 -G0 -fno-pic -mno
lls -w -fomit-frame-pointer -S gfx.c -o gfx.s
psp-as gfx.s -o gfx.o
# Optimisation level 2 (-O2) MUST be used.
psp-gcc -D PSP -I C:/pspdev/psp/sdk/include -W -Wall -O2 -G0 -fno-pic -mno
lls -w -fomit-frame-pointer -O2 -S tiffsdk.c -o tiffsdk.s
psp-as tiffsdk.s -o tiffsdk.o
make: *** No rule to make target `tiffsdk.x', needed by `tetris'. Stop.



i use the alternate verion that uses cmp... so ya

[SG57]

post your makefile.. hmm...

[davidthefat]

Originally Posted by davidthefat

PSPSDK=$(shell psp-config --pspsdk-path)
PSPDEV=$(shell psp-config --pspdev-path)
INCLUDE=$(PSPSDK)/include

all: tetris

clean:
rm -rf *~ *.o *.elf *.bin *.s *.bin

CC = psp-gcc
CFLAGS := -D PSP -I $(INCLUDE) -W -Wall -O2 -G0 -fno-pic -mno-abicalls -w -fomit-frame-pointer

ASM = psp-as

tiffsdk.o: tiffsdk.c
# Optimisation level 2 (-O2) MUST be used.
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -O2 -S tiffsdk.c -o tiffsdk.s
$(ASM) tiffsdk.s -o tiffsdk.o

gfx.o: gfx.c gfx.h
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -S gfx.c -o gfx.s
$(ASM) gfx.s -o gfx.o

tetris.o: tetris.c gfx.h
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -S tetris.c -o tetris.s
$(ASM) tetris.s -o tetris.o

tetris: tetris.o gfx.o tiffsdk.o tiffsdk.x
$(PSPDEV)/bin/psp-ld -T tiffsdk.x -L$(PSPSDK)/lib tetris.o gfx.o tiffsdk.o -o tetris.elf
$(PSPDEV)/bin/psp-strip -s tetris.elf
$(PSPDEV)/bin/psp-objcopy -O binary tetris.elf restart.bin

thats it

[SG57]

Wait, can/have you downloaded the TIFF tetris sourc eand just tried to compile it? If not, do so now and see if it still has a problme. If so, than I guess you cant compile using hte TIFF SDK on PSPDev...

[davidthefat]

ok let me try i got an error i did not change anything

C:\pspdev>cd tiff sdk

C:\pspdev\tiff sdk>make
psp-gcc -D PSP -I C:/pspdev/psp/sdk/include -W -Wall -O2 -G0 -fno-pic -mno-abica
lls -w -fomit-frame-pointer -S tetris.c -o tetris.s
tetris.c : In function 'ProcessKeys':
tetris.c(626) : error: 'PSP_CTRL_SCREEN' undeclared (first use in this function)

tetris.c(626) : error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
tetris.c(626) : error: for each function it appears in.)
make: *** [tetris.o] Error 1

[IMMIGRANT]

SG57 CAN U MAKE A TUTORIAL FOR TIFF?? WE WILL ALL APPRECIATED ..I WANNA MAKE ONE

[SG57]

david - Thats becasue YOUR pspctrl.h doesnt have PSP_CTRL_SCREEN in the enumerator/macro so... Add this to the very top of your code (below the includes tho):

#define PSP_CTRL_SCREEN 0x400000

Thatll fix that error. than re-post what happens.
-= Double Post =-
IMMIGRANT - I could port Yeldarb's tutorials (a majority of them) to TIFF but TIFF is no different than regular C / 1.5/0 programming, just different functions... but sure... Ill do it later I suppose.

[IMMIGRANT]

k thats if u want but i mean a really NOOBISH tutorial.. plz i understand if u dont want serisly ..i jst want more 2.8 ppl to b able to have some games or applications

[davidthefat]

well i dont have psp_ctrl thing... and that was the sdk... unchanged

[SG57]

Just add

#define PSP_CTRL_SCREEN 0x400000

To your code somewhere above int main()

Than compile

[davidthefat]

still doenst work
-= Double Post =-
forget it... its stupid (i was making an app that take pics, turns off and ya

[IMMIGRANT]

dont give up

[davidthefat]

Originally Posted by IMMIGRANT

dont give up

y shouldnt i?? its all in the game minus the game... its stupid...

[IMMIGRANT]

jst ask SG or jst wait for his tutorial..then u might know what to do

[davidthefat]

Originally Posted by IMMIGRANT

jst ask SG or jst wait for his tutorial..then u might know what to do

i dont need a tutorial... its just the regular hb but less functions

[IMMIGRANT]

can u tell me the most basics to make a tiff game or application? do i need a program?? am serius noob..but i wanna learn

[davidthefat]

later i g2g to sleep... pm me

[Fanjita]

tiffsdk.x is included in the SDK zip. You don't need to make your own.

[FLIK]

unzip the tiffsdk file into a folder cmd your way there and type make
it should compile using the pspsdk i have done so plenty of times..

[SG57]

immigrant - i started a small respository of lessons for TIFF programming. Give those a look. Oh and provided a nice blank template with enough functionality to make a small game once discussed in laterl essons if you dont know C from prior expereince.