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**dracule** · 11-24-2006, 08:26 PM

I was beginning making my game... and I was coding the AI when I stopped and thought, how much can lua handle? My AI when I am done with it will most likely have over 600 lines of checks, balances, calculations, and other stuff to perform... so do you think LUA can handle this? I already completed about 10% of it, and it does alright but that is with 2 people on screen... my finished project will hopefully have 7 (including me), with 6 figures using the same 300 lines of code to monitor their surroundings, find their team, and plan the best possible way to kill the other team... do you think lua can handle this? or should I just plan on something else.

my ai system is very complicated, and I think I finally found a way for bots to plan, and use their surroundings to their advantage... I have it all drawn out, and just need to code but dont want to do the entire thing just to find out that lua isnt powerful enough...

xploren · 11-24-2006, 08:45 PM

You might want to lower the player limit on the screen. Although Lua is easy to learn, it can't handle many things. Over 600 lines of code... wow.

**dracule** · 11-24-2006, 08:50 PM

It was going to be like scroller(think of starcraft,), but the area would only be 2x the size of the psp's screen, so I could easily fit everyone in... I might ditch the idea and just go with 4 people... me and a bot vs 2 bots... it would be simpler but wouldn't be as cool as I once planned...

**TacticalPenguin** · 11-24-2006, 08:59 PM

ipodmock=3200 lines.luaos=65kb. If your code is efficient, it should be alright.

**dracule** · 11-24-2006, 09:40 PM

I think I should be fine, trying to eliminate every unnecessary word possible to help it run smoother... coded 125 more lines, now they know the probablity of a projectile hitting them in each tile surrounding them and they move to the proper tile! this is turning out great! (except for one rather annoying sqrt function)
-= Double Post =-
sqrt function problem solved, its running smoother then ever. now I just have to add planning, and the ability to use their surroundings as cover and I have it made.
-= Double Post =-
crap, i think this may be the point... I started adding some more code so the ai can see where the other players are in conjuntion to the objects in the room, now the game randomly speeds up... I dont know why this would happen... I only added a simple operation to what is between the players

**Yongobongo** · 11-24-2006, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -TacticalPaper-

ipodmock=3200 lines.luaos=65kb. If your code is efficient, it should be alright.

Neither ipodmock or lua os are slow, it's to do with efficiancy as Tactical has said, and how many images it uses.

**dracule** · 11-24-2006, 09:47 PM

its weird, becuase this isnt slowing it down at all, it just speeds up the game in random spots.
removal of this code makes it run fine... Ill start from scratch tomorrow I guess... I don't really know if I want to do this anymore... might do something in C instead... The only really cool thing about this game would be the ai i guess, and most people will probably overlook it.

**Bronx** · 11-24-2006, 09:57 PM

600 lines of code is nothing. Really, 600 lines is pretty efficient if your AI is advance as you say it is.

Btw, what are you using for AI? A*, Dykstra, other?

**dracule** · 11-24-2006, 10:30 PM

600 was just an estimate, I fixed my speed problem, and now am trying to get the ai to use cover (it is getting annoying because they will stay under cover, but then another ai bot comes and will kill him. so now I have to add some code so the ai will actively see who is the greatest threat and act on that, instead of who is the closest... I may release an alpha (but I may not, I tend to not release any of my work... which is stupid i know) tomorrow if I fix everything that I can, the alpha wont include the strategical part, but you will see how they find cover and stuff that I have completed... which is alot compared to other luagames that I have seen... I just hope that everything works alright because there is just one part which is critical but iffy at the moment.

JEMdev · 11-24-2006, 10:36 PM

this sounds great, i hope it works out.

11-24-2006, 08:26 PM	#1
dracule I love the PS3!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Look behind you Posts: 1,876 Trader Feedback: 0	How far can lua go without slowing? I was beginning making my game... and I was coding the AI when I stopped and thought, how much can lua handle? My AI when I am done with it will most likely have over 600 lines of checks, balances, calculations, and other stuff to perform... so do you think LUA can handle this? I already completed about 10% of it, and it does alright but that is with 2 people on screen... my finished project will hopefully have 7 (including me), with 6 figures using the same 300 lines of code to monitor their surroundings, find their team, and plan the best possible way to kill the other team... do you think lua can handle this? or should I just plan on something else. my ai system is very complicated, and I think I finally found a way for bots to plan, and use their surroundings to their advantage... 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11-24-2006, 08:50 PM	#3
dracule I love the PS3!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Look behind you Posts: 1,876 Trader Feedback: 0	It was going to be like scroller(think of starcraft,), but the area would only be 2x the size of the psp's screen, so I could easily fit everyone in... I might ditch the idea and just go with 4 people... me and a bot vs 2 bots... it would be simpler but wouldn't be as cool as I once planned... __________________ [size=-3][color=#fefefe]11[/color][color=white]0[/color][color=#fbfbfb]1[/color][color=#f1f4f6]0[/color][color=#f2f5f8]0[/color][color=#f7f8fa]1[/color][color=#fcfcfc]0[/color][color=#fdfefd]0[/color][color=#fffffe]1[/color][color=#fefefe]1[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]000[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]0[/color][color=white]0[/color][color=#fefefe]1111011[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]1[/color][color=white]101[/color] 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11-24-2006, 09:40 PM	#5
dracule I love the PS3!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Look behind you Posts: 1,876 Trader Feedback: 0	I think I should be fine, trying to eliminate every unnecessary word possible to help it run smoother... coded 125 more lines, now they know the probablity of a projectile hitting them in each tile surrounding them and they move to the proper tile! this is turning out great! (except for one rather annoying sqrt function) -= Double Post =- sqrt function problem solved, its running smoother then ever. now I just have to add planning, and the ability to use their surroundings as cover and I have it made. -= Double Post =- crap, i think this may be the point... I started adding some more code so the ai can see where the other players are in conjuntion to the objects in the room, now the game randomly speeds up... I dont know why this would happen... I only added a simple operation to what is between the players __________________ [size=-3][color=#fefefe]11[/color][color=white]0[/color][color=#fbfbfb]1[/color][color=#f1f4f6]0[/color][color=#f2f5f8]0[/color][color=#f7f8fa]1[/color][color=#fcfcfc]0[/color][color=#fdfefd]0[/color][color=#fffffe]1[/color][color=#fefefe]1[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]000[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]0[/color][color=white]0[/color][color=#fefefe]1111011[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]1[/color][color=white]101[/color] 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Reason: Automerged Doublepost

11-24-2006, 09:47 PM	#7
dracule I love the PS3!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Look behind you Posts: 1,876 Trader Feedback: 0	its weird, becuase this isnt slowing it down at all, it just speeds up the game in random spots. removal of this code makes it run fine... Ill start from scratch tomorrow I guess... I don't really know if I want to do this anymore... might do something in C instead... The only really cool thing about this game would be the ai i guess, and most people will probably overlook it. __________________ [size=-3][color=#fefefe]11[/color][color=white]0[/color][color=#fbfbfb]1[/color][color=#f1f4f6]0[/color][color=#f2f5f8]0[/color][color=#f7f8fa]1[/color][color=#fcfcfc]0[/color][color=#fdfefd]0[/color][color=#fffffe]1[/color][color=#fefefe]1[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]000[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]0[/color][color=white]0[/color][color=#fefefe]1111011[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]1[/color][color=white]101[/color] 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11-24-2006, 09:57 PM	#8
Bronx sceKernelExitGame(); Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 3,125 Trader Feedback: 0	600 lines of code is nothing. Really, 600 lines is pretty efficient if your AI is advance as you say it is. Btw, what are you using for AI? A, Dykstra, other? __________________ ~Bronx Development~ ~Widget Monkey Games*~

11-24-2006, 08:45 PM	#2
xploren No longer a community member. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2 Trader Feedback: 0	You might want to lower the player limit on the screen. Although Lua is easy to learn, it can't handle many things. Over 600 lines of code... wow.

11-24-2006, 08:59 PM	#4
TacticalPenguin Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,633 Trader Feedback: 0	ipodmock=3200 lines.luaos=65kb. If your code is efficient, it should be alright.

11-24-2006, 10:30 PM	#9
dracule I love the PS3!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Look behind you Posts: 1,876 Trader Feedback: 0	600 was just an estimate, I fixed my speed problem, and now am trying to get the ai to use cover (it is getting annoying because they will stay under cover, but then another ai bot comes and will kill him. so now I have to add some code so the ai will actively see who is the greatest threat and act on that, instead of who is the closest... I may release an alpha (but I may not, I tend to not release any of my work... which is stupid i know) tomorrow if I fix everything that I can, the alpha wont include the strategical part, but you will see how they find cover and stuff that I have completed... which is alot compared to other luagames that I have seen... I just hope that everything works alright because there is just one part which is critical but iffy at the moment. __________________ [size=-3][color=#fefefe]11[/color][color=white]0[/color][color=#fbfbfb]1[/color][color=#f1f4f6]0[/color][color=#f2f5f8]0[/color][color=#f7f8fa]1[/color][color=#fcfcfc]0[/color][color=#fdfefd]0[/color][color=#fffffe]1[/color][color=#fefefe]1[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]000[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]0[/color][color=white]0[/color][color=#fefefe]1111011[/color][color=white]1[/color][color=#fefefe]1[/color][color=white]101[/color] 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11-24-2006, 10:36 PM	#10
JEMdev No longer a community member. Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 8 Trader Feedback: 0	this sounds great, i hope it works out.

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How far can lua go without slowing?