HEN for the PSP 3000...

[Tets]

Originally Posted by BlackBurd

Ooh no. not anyone can do it. anyone can reverse it but not make there own.

That's probably the worst reasoning I've ever seen anyone employ. Anyone can reverse it, but they can't release their own customized version? What kind of crazy backwards place do you live where this kind of thing follows logically?

Originally Posted by BlackBurd

so far the only people who have built there own firmwares are him and i think harleyg or who ever it was that did the one where the recovery menu was accessed by putting psp in hold mode before fully booting.

Of course, not a lot of people HAVE done custom firmware. But that's not to say they're unable.

Originally Posted by BlackBurd

there has been other cfw's but most were not ran from the flash0. most used firmware loaders like devhook and mph.

So not running from flash0 makes a custom firmware somehow less of a custom firmware?

Originally Posted by BlackBurd

and also most of the veteren devs have retired. we really only have dax that can do that now.

This can't be denied. Pretty much everyone has lost interest in PSP development. But, again, this doesn't mean that nobody else out there is capable of creating CFW.

Originally Posted by BlackBurd

And his forums really suck. you cant go to through 2 posts without some one saying "Ahh your the best dax" it annoying as hell.

Show me one thread where this happens and I'll show you at least ten others where it doesn't. It's not that bad and you know it as well as I do. Again, meaningless spite.

[pspmoddingelite]

wow thats crazy.. fast
-=Double Post Merge =-
after you do custom firmware a few times actually jsut once then its so easy

[BlackBurd]

Originally Posted by Tets

That's probably the worst reasoning I've ever seen anyone employ. Anyone can reverse it, but they can't release their own customized version? What kind of crazy backwards place do you live where this kind of thing follows logically?


Of course, not a lot of people HAVE done custom firmware. But that's not to say they're unable.


So not running from flash0 makes a custom firmware somehow less of a custom firmware?


This can't be denied. Pretty much everyone has lost interest in PSP development. But, again, this doesn't mean that nobody else out there is capable of creating CFW.


Show me one thread where this happens and I'll show you at least ten others where it doesn't. It's not that bad and you know it as well as I do. Again, meaningless spite.

1. What im saying is.
though alot of different cfw has came out mre than 90% was daxs work withsome edits to allow features of the newer firmwares. so far only about 3 people that i know of have acually made and have stopped a very long time ago cfw other then the ones needing a firmware loader.

And yes if it doesnt run from the flash0 there are some disadvantages.

as it stands right now dax may not be god but he is the god of psp for now until some one better comes around.

And almost every thread that dax has posted in is full of fanboys and you know it. its to a point that is very annoying.

[Light_AleX]

Many people have tried building and releasing their own Custom Firmware.

becus, Miriam/HellDashX, Harleyg and even FreePlay (Puzzle Bobble).

To be extremely honest, the people so far that have made decent CFW closer to Dark_AleX is Miriam because he/she/it/they reversed most of the stuff.

The most interesting and creative one was the Puzzle Bobble one by FreePlay. Although not useful, interesting.

Although I could upgrade like everyone else to GEN firmware, I'd prefer not too since their updates are always the minor ones in terms of official firmware. They always follow up on what after Dark_AleX & Co. have done to allow latest major Official firmware update to be compatible. E.g. 3.95, 5.02. M33 also has the network update feature that updates all the time anytime, and because there are more M33 releases, it's easier to keep up to date with the Official Firmwares. M33 has also built a base for all our programs I.e. Homebrew. Many SDK's are specifically written for M33 Custom Firmware. They may work on GEN or other CFWs but they always seem to have a little rough edge that never matches.

To me, GEN is to M33 as WINDOWS is to LINUX.

Dark_AleX does go on other forums.

This post was just expressing my opinion, do not use it as a basis for a useless, unending, dramatic argument. Doing so could result in some extremely ugly and hideous...uh...maybe not.

-Light_AleX

[Tets]

Originally Posted by BlackBurd

And almost every thread that dax has posted in is full of fanboys and you know it. its to a point that is very annoying.

I see what you're getting at now. You can't judge the rest of the place by that though. If Dark_Alex posted here regularly there would be droves of fans doing the same thing. I know it's annoying, but the rest of the place is very tolerable.

[_-Tiger-_]

I also think that a lot of people can make custom firmwares other than DA. Some probably have even made some and never released it... I mean just because someone doesn't release something doesn't mean they don't have it.

[BlackBurd]

Originally Posted by Light_AleX

Many people have tried building and releasing their own Custom Firmware.

becus, Miriam/HellDashX, Harleyg and even FreePlay (Puzzle Bobble).

To be extremely honest, the people so far that have made decent CFW closer to Dark_AleX is Miriam because he/she/it/they reversed most of the stuff.

The most interesting and creative one was the Puzzle Bobble one by FreePlay. Although not useful, interesting.

Although I could upgrade like everyone else to GEN firmware, I'd prefer not too since their updates are always the minor ones in terms of official firmware. They always follow up on what after Dark_AleX & Co. have done to allow latest major Official firmware update to be compatible. E.g. 3.95, 5.02. M33 also has the network update feature that updates all the time anytime, and because there are more M33 releases, it's easier to keep up to date with the Official Firmwares. M33 has also built a base for all our programs I.e. Homebrew. Many SDK's are specifically written for M33 Custom Firmware. They may work on GEN or other CFWs but they always seem to have a little rough edge that never matches.

To me, GEN is to M33 as WINDOWS is to LINUX.

Dark_AleX does go on other forums.

This post was just expressing my opinion, do not use it as a basis for a useless, unending, dramatic argument. Doing so could result in some extremely ugly and hideous...uh...maybe not.

-Light_AleX

i do remember puzzle bobble firmware. Saw the vid and still have it on a old psp. But its really just the game running from your flash0 so i wouldnt call it a firmware. as for the people you mentioned i dont count reverse engineering because it is based off of m33 firmware and i already mentioned harleyg so what was that for exactly. seemed slightly pointless.

[Archaemic]

Don't forget the Wildc*rd CFWs.

[Bubbletune]

Originally Posted by BlackBurd

as for the people you mentioned i dont count reverse engineering because it is based off of m33 firmware and i already mentioned harleyg so what was that for exactly.

You can say what you want, but reverse engeenering the entire custom firmware can still take weeks, a lot of patience and work. It isn't something you pull out of your hat.

[Slasher]

Originally Posted by BlackBurd

so far the only people who have built there own firmwares are him and i think harleyg or who ever it was that did the one where the recovery menu was accessed by putting psp in hold mode before fully booting.

For the record, Dark_AleX made that as well. Re: Custom Firmware P.O.C.
Harleyg made an extremely simple button code edit and received a ridiculous amount of fame & praise for it

[BlackBurd]

Originally Posted by Archaemic

Don't forget the Wildc*rd CFWs.

Wild card is reversed engineered.

@bubbletune.
im not saying its easy or that you can do it in a short period of time.

What im saying is it all still usually uses m33 as its cornerstone.

[Archaemic]

...are you saying that Miriam's CFWs weren't reverse engineered versions of the M33/OE firmwares?

[xist]

Isn't that what the following at least partially implies?

After we reversed several modules we decided to release 3.72 HX with great pleasure, which got flamed almost straight away due to the fact the modules were hex-edited. They were, but for those smart people out there, exactly how did we figured out what patches to modify if we didn't know how the modules worked?

[MaGiXieN]

last part of explaination.
http://www.pspgen.com/hack-psp-3000-...te-184941.html

[Bubbletune]

Originally Posted by xist

Isn't that what the following at least partially implies?

If you read further it says that the GEN firmwares were based off a full reversal, only the early HX firmwares weren't.

[BlackBurd]

Originally Posted by Archaemic

...are you saying that Miriam's CFWs weren't reverse engineered versions of the M33/OE firmwares?

no what im saying is that they were reverse engineered.

Originally Posted by tets

Dark_Alex is NOT a god of anything. Anyone could do this, Dark-Alex just happens to be the most popular one doing it

I was saying that most of the other cfw's had to reverse engineer his work and that it is very complicated to make and very few people have done so and most of them are already retired so in the past 3 years there hasnt been any non-reverse engineered cfw's other than dax's.

and im not trying to belittle someones work because i dont even think i could reverse engineer one myself but yeah you know what i mean.

[Bubbletune]

Originally Posted by BlackBurd

I was saying that most of the other cfw's had to reverse engineer his work and that it is very complicated to make and very few people have done so and most of them are already retired so in the past 3 years there hasnt been any non-reverse engineered cfw's other than dax's.

This doesn't necessarily mean these other developers aren't capable of programming their own custom firmware from scratch, it just means they haven't bothered. Because, think about it, SE has existed ever since 2.71, and had a lot of time to evolve in to the current 5.00 M33. During this, Sony slowly introduced new checks each time, and Dark_AleX was able to patch them at a decent rate. Jumping in at 5.00 would mean they'd have to do so many things at once, and then still run into incompatibilities (eg. a lot of programs use the M33 SDK), and some small checks that weren't noticed on one eye-sight, but are still necessary for some homebrew to run, just to name a few reasons. In other words: why spend so much time coding one from scratch to have the exact same features as M33, if you could just reverse it. Sure, this won't help very much in proving yourself, but you still learn a lot of things, which can be used later on when programming new features, patching new checks, or even working on other consoles.

[theketchupman]

Originally Posted by GinoD

Yeah... this blows... and to think that ketchup was pretty "ok" back then. My how the mighty have fallen.

As it has been a long time i've not been here, I wan't to clarify something.

I'm not, I have not been, and I will not be a CFW developper, and therefore, I'm not Miriam, or whoever you wanted.

It's true I've taken a part in HX CFW as a betatester, and a "releaser", I was simply that. The old rumor saying that I was HX, was of course wrong, and every serious developper knows it.

If you still have doubts well ... deal with it.

[quaNtice]

zZz

[vodkkaa]

Originally Posted by BlackBurd

I was saying that most of the other cfw's had to reverse engineer his work and that it is very complicated to make and very few people have done so and most of them are already retired so in the past 3 years there hasnt been any non-reverse engineered cfw's other than dax's.
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DAX's custom firmware, or atleast the earlier ones before the ipl was hacked, were actually based on his reversal of Devhook. He used boosters method of booting the reboot.bin of the higher kernel to allow the 1.50 bootstrap with the latest kernel. And the method for mounting UMD and Flash to USB was also taken from Boosters USBSSS program after DA reversed it. im also pretty sure DAs early DAXISO loader was based off his reversal of umd emulator originally made by Humma Kavula, which DA then incorporated into his cfw. and i may be mistaken, but isnt DA cfw a reversal of sony's firmware. How can you say it is alright for DA to reverse someone elses work to make it better, but when other devs do the same to DAs work, they are flamed.

And as to why devs choose to reverse DA's work and not make a cfw from scratch I can assume that the main reason is because sony updates add various protections against cfw and if a dev was to build their own cfw, they would have to track down every single one of these protections and patch them. Since 1.50, sony has released 36 firmware upgrades. Even if we assume that only one protection is added in each update, that is 36 addresses that a dev needs to patch. seeing as the addresses would only accumulate for DAX since he has been in the scene since nearly the beginning. he would only have to add one patch on each update instead of the 36 a new dev would have to add.

but i dont think that should matter. i am no expert on reverse engineering or the psps internals, but if a dev is able to reverse M33 and update it to the latest kernel, would it not make sense that they have the knowledge of the psp and its kernel as well as m33 and its core to create a custom firmware in the first place. i mean its one thing to reverse the recovery menu or hex edit a few things, but to be able to fully understand how m33 works and to be able to reverse it and upgrade it definitely means you know a thing or two about the psp.

[sky_warn]

any new news on this

[BlackBurd]

Originally Posted by sky_warn

any new news on this

no

Its not going to be released its just a poc.

[quaNtice]

the video and situation was a huge waste of time/energy for everyone.

[sky_warn]

do you think it could have been a fake

[OuahOuah]

No fake and if someone thinks it's a waste of time, why post this sentence ?

[quaNtice]

Originally Posted by OuahOuah

No fake and if someone thinks it's a waste of time, why post this sentence ?

wtf? lol

[DPB]

ive got to admit it is kinda taking the mick now because its taking ages to be released im sure everyone else is thinking the same

[BlackBurd]

Originally Posted by DPB

ive got to admit it is kinda taking the mick now because its taking ages to be released im sure everyone else is thinking the same

no we arent thinking the same.

We who actually read everything know that its not going to be released read man.

[DPB]

Originally Posted by blackburd

no we arent thinking the same.

We who actually read everything know that its not going to be released read man.

omg everything i say on here u get someone with attitude quoting back

[BlackBurd]

Originally Posted by DPB

omg everything i say on here u get someone with attitude quoting back

No its just that this was on the exact same page about 6 posts up

Originally Posted by me

no

Its not going to be released its just a poc.

I said that this morning.

Im not trying to be mean im just saying you havent read any of what was posted.