Freeplay leaking an exploit that isn't his

[mathieulh]

Freeplay has been warned not to leak the Mercury exploit because the code simply isn't his, he abused fanjita's trust when fanjita gave freeplay an access to his svn server and freeplay tried every possible url variations until he found something. That something was the prometheus svn which had various exploits including the mercury one, all coded and ready for use. Basically Freeplay stole the exploit.
You can see him here (screenshot saved to make sure he does not suddently edit his post)
admiting to this very fact.

You can also see my personal warning here posted long before Freeplay leaked the exploit. You will recognise the game I talk about is none other than Mercury.

Stealing is lame, leaking is even more, this is not the first time he leaks things he has been entrusted (though he did not even have any rights to have a hold, use or release this exploit in the first place since he stole it)

As I stated in m formature, the amount of work he provided to get it work is 0. Since the exploit was all ready to use and sources were provided in the prometheus svn content he stole.

Either way the developers' community has been warned and have removed him from whatever trusting list he might have been.

As a proof that I am not lying to you, or making this up, I will be now providing along this post the original mercury exploit and sources as they were in the original svn (after removing .svn folders for obvious reasons). Trust me, it saddens me to have to resort in doing so, unfortunately I do have no choice considering Freeplay leaked the game exploit to begin with.

Freeplay it seems was all about get fame from using work that is not his and this I cannot forgive. Hence I am informing the world of his evil deeds.

I would also like to add that releasing this exploit was pointless and as we have foretold, Sony removed the game from the playstation store less than one hour after it was announced, preventing anyone to purchase the game on the psp go (even if it was already patched in the 6.20 firmware) Rest assured that we also do have more user exploits (inside the svn (and I do hope Freeplay does not leak those out of fame either) as well as outside of it) but that unlike him we are not after fame and thus not wasting exploits like he does (especially as unlike him, we actually do find them on our own and not steal the work of others)

As its always been said, crime does not pay, and stealing sources as well as using the theft for your own profit is a crime whether you like it, or not.

P.S. The ifhandle kernel exploit provided in the supplied sources has been fixed since firmware 6.00 so there is no harm in supplying it along with the sources that were initially using it.

QJ Related: Because of a lame url ban, I have been forced to put spaces in the urls, feel free to remove them.

[shortboy]

Ohps. Drama in the PSP scene once again. I'm surprised that even after all these years, trusts is still being broken.

[cmbeke]

really sad that freeplay would do that (you have to add in .net after mature)

[zektor]

What a sad state of affairs...heh.

[DOAS]

well that sucks! I'm new here, but I've seen Fanjita's name all over the place. I think this is the first time I've heard of Freeplay. I dont know the full story, but it seems to me thaqt freeplay is a believer in the phrase "no publicity is bad publicity". & I think that sucks too. Either way, the leak turned out to be a pointless venture seeing how quickly Sony were able to resolve the issue.

[elite999]

mathieulh, links fixed. :)

Freeplay, an unexpected ending. Everyone should know the truth.

It was not 'obvious'. There was no indication at all that I should not be there.

From m formature

Lol, now that is your excuse. You could've at least ask for permission, since it isn't yours. The PSP scene isn't a (wits takers and losers weepers) condition. I hope this kind of drama won't be repeated.

[Twilight_Genesis]

A sad day for the PSP Hacking scene.

[mathieulh]

This is an outright lie.'Stealing' this exploit would've been hacking into Fanjita's server, planting an authentication file for my PC in it, then bruteforcing paths on the SVN server until I got something.

What happened was that I was given access to the server and I looked at what was there.
No, what you see there is me saying what the truth actually is.


Right, I definitely didn't do any work on what was released (and what wasn't). No, I hired a small Indonesian child to do it for me.

Are you kidding me ? Have you not seen the sources I provided, that was the svn folder, as-is, and as anyone with common sense would notice, it IS ready to use

Oh, no. Forgive me, O Grand Pubah of the PSP scene.

Call me with whatever ironic name you like but this "Grand Pubah" did more to the scene that you did, and unlike you, he used unstolen information to do it, in other words, his own work.

You don't trust anybody. You keep all your best information in a nice little circle of 'elites' and hold that over people because it gives you a sense of power and importance.You're not at all about fame? And evil? Are you for real? Where's your sense of perspective?

What we do with the informations we gathered on our own and worked to obtain is our choice to make, at least it is our work and not the one of others.

Beside if it was about fame, we would have done just like you and made tons of youtube videos of our exploits. Instead we shared them little by little with the community when there was a need to (Yes in case you haven't noticed by now, Prometheus is C+D, so yes we did share and not a small amount of things)

Another outright lie, unless he's simply unaware that it's listed under 'A' for "Archer Maclean's Mercury".

Don't play with words, you perfectly know I was refering to "Mercury" that should be obvious to anyone reading that thread just as well as how badly you are trying to mislead or fool other people in thinking you had any kind of legit access to this exploit, beside the supplied sources alone should be proof enough.

You have an odd definition of 'profit'. And of 'stealing'.

So let's say I would be invited into your house to work on some novel or whatever, and that I saw some manuscript on a table which I obviously knew it had nothing to do with the work we were doing together, wouldn't taking it without your notice called stealing ? If not I would not know what this is. But then imagine I took this manuscript, modified it slightly just to make it look like I wrote it and then released it under my name, how would this be called then ? You have NO EXCUSES freeplay. Especially as in one of the threads I made earlier M for Mature Forums - View Single Post - PSP Clip: PSPgo Fully Hacked, Running HEN just in case this was neither clear or obvious enough, I told you you were NOT to release it, yet you chose to do so, releasing someone else's work without approval is as far as I am aware of, called leaking.

The mercury exploit was fixed in firmware 6.20. THAT is the ONLY reason I released it. Are you really going to be that hypocritical?

That does not give you any rights to use, brag or release an exploit that isn't yours, don't pointlessly try to change the subject.

Again, this is a lie. When we were working on the Gripshift exploit, he set up an SVN repository on his server, and gave me a path to the SVN browser on the web. There was no "trying tons of different urls". It was in plain sight, right there when I opened the link he sent me.

Again if you walked into someone's house and saw let's say a psp go in plain sight, would you think it right to grab it?
Really, your excuses and it seems yourself are despicable.

Really? How should it have been obvious? He gave me access to a restricted SVN and didn't say anything about not accessing what was on it. Not a word. I assumed that he wanted to give me access to those things. You don't give someone a key to your house if you don't want them to be able to see what's in plain view inside.No. It isn't what I did at all. I said from the beginning that it wasn't my exploit.No. Say this as often as you like, but it's not nearly an accurate description of reality.

You assume wrong, beside there are lots of things you are not telling, such as the fact that once you grabbed the whole thing, (which was something morally unethical to do) Fanjita told you you should not have done it and then because of the trust abusal you showed, cut all ties with you. It was then obvious to you that you had no rights over this exploit or whatever svn content you stole, either if it was to show off, let alone release. Not that it would make it any right to get into someone's house and grab any stuff you see, there is something called common sense you know ?

Had this exploit not been patched, I would not have released anything. Ever. But since it was patched, there wasn't any point in keeping it private anymore.

Really now ? would you ? After threatening to release an eloader along with it and making videos with it as well ? (which as far as I remember is not your work and for which you had no approval to use nor make videos of it or with it, nor release in any kind of forms) Admit it, you did all of it out of fame, that's the only explanation anyone smart enough could have, and that's because it's the plain and obvious truth.

Conclusion, yes it was a thievery, yes I know what stealing means and yes you, with a complete lack for morals, leaked work that isn't yours and tried to pass it as your own in order to get more noobs to adulate you.

Well in the end you failed because all you gathered is the wrath of all the psp developers in the scene.

As repeated above, YOU HAVE NO EXCUSES.

[mathieulh]

That was Freeplay's reply on other forums and mine to them.

[DOAS]

Conclusion, yes it was a thievery...
...Well in the end you failed because all you gathered is the wrath of all the psp developers in the scene.

As repeated above, YOU HAVE NO EXCUSES.

(quote edited for brevity)

BEEF!!!
After reading this I felt kinda sorry for the guy, for about 2 seconds before I began to LMAO!
He must feel screwed after (allegedly) screwing Fanjita. What goes around comes back arouind &behind you to :humped: YO ASS!

EDIT: mathieulh, you seem have missed directly mentioning freeplay in your sig, was that intentional? lol

[mathieulh]

I never worked with Freeplay on a project myself, or at least any project of importance I remember of, that's why he is not added, the ones in my signatures are the devs I either worked with or have the utmost respect for. Unfortunately there was no space for them all either :/

[larryr]

Unfortunate incident in the PSP Scene.

I have lost all respect for FreePlay, ATM.

Stealing, Ripping, Leaking....no matter what level, how much, it still disrespectful to the original maker. And if you, FreePlay, choose to act in such a way, be disrespectful, even in denying it, you do not deserve my respect.

Thanks for this mathieulh, and I agree:

There are no excuses.

[Skyline34]

Larry you basically just said what mathieulh said but in a different way lol.

Anyway, I never would have for-seen this from the likes of FreePlay, but I guess you can't trust anybody now-a-days.

Shame, his respect has taken the biggest nose-dive.

[larryr]

Larry you basically just said what mathieulh said but in a different way lol.

Anyway, I never would have for-seen this from the likes of FreePlay, but I guess you can't trust anybody now-a-days.

Shame, his respect has taken the biggest nose-dive.

I know, but its my opinion to say too!:Jump:

[Hgaara]

I feel bad cause since I don't see how this would benefit me, I don't really care :'-(

[Skyline34]

I feel bad cause since I don't see how this would benefit me, I don't really care :'-(

What?

Really, was there any need to post this?

[Twilight_Genesis]

Everyone loses this time. FreePlay loses his standing in the community and we lose a perfectly good exploit. There can be no excuses for what he has done.

[Skyline34]

Everyone loses this time. FreePlay loses his standing in the community and we lose a perfectly good exploit. There can be no excuses for what he has done.

It was patched in 6.20 anyway, but still, it doesn't make it right for FreePlay leaking something which was developed by mathieulh and his team.

[FreePlay]

Hey, I've got an idea. Let's make MORE drama, flounce off again, then whine about how everyone else is all about fame.

[JETFIRE007]

Do you freeplay? You Stole it. S T O L E.i actully had respect for you when you proved to us team Mack was fake but this made me lose all respect. you can't be trusted anymore.

[urherenow]

because he has also proved to us that HE is fake.

[PSPnoObmOd]

I am on Freeplay's side. Sure, it wasnt his, but it was patched. It is now useless! He could have said exactly who made it, but I have not lost any respect for Freeplay, more so, I have lost respect for mathieulh for being a whiny little *****.

[SolaceIX]

So if Math. is pissed off at Freeplay for wanting "fame," what is HE after? I'm on Freeplay's side. This is just stupid. Mostly because I now realize that Math. IS holding things back to "release when the need arises." If its patched, where in the hell is the problem? I think everyone needs to look back into 06-07 and remember that the PSP scene was a community. Not a fame race.

[kronicali]

Not kool, even though my beloved psp isnt with me anymore i still pay a visit to these forums from time to time.

Now I came here to see that Freeplay was all about drama.You have no morality.
And you seem to be very arrogant towards the whole situation.

It is indeed a sad day for the PSP Communities, I ashamed as to how good Sony is feeling about this.
We should all be working together, I thought the aim of the psp homebrew communities were to give people more options in using their psp's and giving them their money's worth and not each person trying to obtain fame! Which is clearly what you were doing.

So I say to you as a mature being to another.What you did was wrong base on a moral standard and being arrogant is not going to help you.If I were you I would apologize to fanjita and mathieulh as this does not make you less of a man.It actually could restore some or any of the little dignity you have felt.



I feel sorry for you as you would not take a word i say, still if you don't your already labeled.

[cosito]

wow i had to log in to comment and give my 2 cents on this,
first of all if you are in with people who are pretty much the people thousands depend on for being able to play some homebrews or pirated games (i do not support piracy in anyway) why do something like this to lose their trust. also ask before sharing. dude its the net if you upload something like that wouldn't you think anyone can use it and abuse it. hence sony taking action quickly.

well freeplay the best thing for you to do it say sorry and ask for forgiveness.
the whole community isn't going to trust you or even look up to you as they used to.

-cosito-

[SlippaTweek]

The way FreePlay has behaved and treated other RESPECTED PSP developers is deplorable.
I just hope other cool dev's are not put off by the actions of 1 sad individual

[soopergooman]

Freeplay dangled this in front of people like the perverbial cheese to a bunch of mince. Stealing from someone is never good, even if you don't think of it as stealing. I knew which exploit he had been using as I have that game as well, but did I say anything? No. Why? Cause I'm smarter than that. Even if it had been patched by Sony, it is still no reason to release tI doubt anyone in the hacking scene will ever trust you again let alone give you anymore credit. I alwas knew something was up with you. I knew not to trust you in my gut, maybe I should have sent the core team a heads up about the vibes that you were giving off. You were so pompous iun your videos, it was sickening to watch. You gloated about HOWIT WAS ALL YOUR WORK but in reality we all know you're not much of a coder and that this wasnt the first time you acted like this. You told off all kinds of people when they cried FAKE and I guess they were right. You are a Fake andshould get Banned from here and every single psp hacing type site that there is. If you stole something from me I'd call the cops and have your ass thrown in jail. Material or intellectual property there is no difference. You are luck that Math and the rest haven't done so\, Yet.


It sucks for the whole community that this has happened. Maybe this exploit could have been used later after the comic store came out or anything along those lines but thanks to freeplay it is now useless and also thanks to freeplay as Developers of exploits now trust people even less. Are you trying to KILL THE SCENE FREEPLAY or are you just stupid?...

[OuterHeaven]

I think the game was patched because of the video FreePlay originally released. This is a screenshot of his video on Oct 03:
1st vid.jpg

This is one from his new Nov 20 video:
2nd vid.jpg

When you compare them, you can clearly see the corner of the game. Sony has had since Oct 03 to find out which game it belonged to, and to patch it.

[Dark3mx]

I think everyone needs to look back into 06-07 and remember that the PSP scene was a community. Not a fame race.

Agreed. Just sucks how quickly trust can be shot down.

[pegasus21]

For those of you who think mathieulh and the gang are witholding good exploits from you... think again. A usermode exploit isn't really of much worth and as mathieulh has mentioned in his post, it only works for the kernel that it's mapped for.

mathieulh and the rest can do whatever they want with the exploits they have found through hard work. You don't pay them to do all of these work so don't start complaining about them being evil and all.