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**darkriku** · 09-01-2005, 01:37 PM

Theres no ps emulator i jut found out . Here is a quote from a person on this webstie. "that PSONE emulator with the video was a fake. and downgrader should be out by at the least the 7th of this month. oh yeah i almost forgot that N64 emulator has been canceled i read about that on insane psp" ya sorry peeps im sad and pissed 2 if this is wrong PLZ PLZ SAY!

:wall: :doh:

**TheMysteriousThug** · 09-01-2005, 01:41 PM

***** you really had to quote me.

**brain_stew** · 09-01-2005, 01:51 PM

PacManFan is still working on his PSOne emulator (he's even released an alpha version, check the files section) and it will be ready when its ready. The PSOne emulator that this refers to was an obvious fake and one that everyone knew was fake the moment the video surfaced. This is seriousley old news.

**AnimeTheme** · 09-01-2005, 10:23 PM

I don't think PSP has enough processing power to run a totally smooth PS1 emulator... so don't put too much hope into it.

Killerah · 09-02-2005, 06:53 AM

Well everyone knows that the architecture of the PSP is based on the PS2 which was designed to work well with the PS1, so if they could just program a PS1 emulator that is similar in design to the PS2's support for PS1 games it would run full speed no problem! I just made all that up on the spot, but it sounds good, right?

**markymanxxx** · 09-02-2005, 08:20 AM

If Sony made their own PSP port of Final Fantasy VII (it would fit onto one UMD), then I would buy it.

With that, and maybe the same for the original MGS, what's the need for a PS1 emulator?

**lewbacca** · 09-02-2005, 08:48 AM

oh yeah i would buy every metal gear solid game :O

**chronomaster5042** · 09-02-2005, 08:55 AM

Has anyone heard from PacManFan recently?

PacManFan · 09-02-2005, 10:30 AM

I'm still working on the PSPSOne emu. I've been on vacation for the past week, but I expect to get back into developing the recompiler in the next few days. I'm now working with another developer(Baggers) who is working the GPU plugin. He's putting in GE calls to give hardware acceleration to the triangle rendering functions and to the blitting. I'm working on speeding up the emulation with the recompiler. There are still a few more details and issues to work out with the recompiler, but overall, it's progressing nicely.

I'm not going to promise any release dates, but I can tell everyone that full speed PS1 emulation is definately possible and coming.

Donations would be nice, it might help Baggers and I to find more time in our busy lives.(Hint Hint)

I'll see if I can post some more screen shots soon.

-PMF out

**brain_stew** · 09-02-2005, 02:47 PM

PacManFan could you tell me your Paypal address and we'll add it to the official donation thread, coupled with a couple of screenshots I'm sure we'll be able to get you a little help.

Oh, and to hear you say full speed PS1 emulation makes me a very happy guy!

*Salivates over the possability of portable Metal Gear Solid*

**MICHAELSD** · 09-02-2005, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PacManFan

I'm still working on the PSPSOne emu. I've been on vacation for the past week, but I expect to get back into developing the recompiler in the next few days. I'm now working with another developer(Baggers) who is working the GPU plugin. He's putting in GE calls to give hardware acceleration to the triangle rendering functions and to the blitting. I'm working on speeding up the emulation with the recompiler. There are still a few more details and issues to work out with the recompiler, but overall, it's progressing nicely.

I'm not going to promise any release dates, but I can tell everyone that full speed PS1 emulation is definately possible and coming.

Donations would be nice, it might help Baggers and I to find more time in our busy lives.(Hint Hint)

I'll see if I can post some more screen shots soon.

-PMF out

This emulator's gonig to be so sweet! You rock :dance: !!!

UK-PSP · 09-02-2005, 03:01 PM

Yea it sounds amazing....

Wait a minute god-damned fecking v1.52 PSP... :doh:

**TheMysteriousThug** · 09-02-2005, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PacManFan

I'm still working on the PSPSOne emu. I've been on vacation for the past week, but I expect to get back into developing the recompiler in the next few days. I'm now working with another developer(Baggers) who is working the GPU plugin. He's putting in GE calls to give hardware acceleration to the triangle rendering functions and to the blitting. I'm working on speeding up the emulation with the recompiler. There are still a few more details and issues to work out with the recompiler, but overall, it's progressing nicely.

I'm not going to promise any release dates, but I can tell everyone that full speed PS1 emulation is definately possible and coming.

Donations would be nice, it might help Baggers and I to find more time in our busy lives.(Hint Hint)

I'll see if I can post some more screen shots soon.

-PMF out

just one question : will you update Quake again????

**orphan frequently** · 09-02-2005, 03:35 PM

wait, doesnt the psone controller have more buttons than the psp, how is that going to work?

**gamesrus** · 09-02-2005, 03:38 PM

I cant wait!!its going to be so awsome!!!!you are really smart and good and this stuff. i wish i could do stuff like this. This is so awsome!!!This is goin to be my favorite emulator!!if only i had paypal :think:

**kibbles** · 09-02-2005, 06:25 PM

i think it is going to be a while before we get a working PS1 emulator for PSP.

**chronomaster5042** · 09-02-2005, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orphan frequently

wait, doesnt the psone controller have more buttons than the psp, how is that going to work?

the psx controllers only have 2 extra buttons which could be assigned to the analog stick

Wookemp123 · 09-02-2005, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killerah

Well everyone knows that the architecture of the PSP is based on the PS2 which was designed to work well with the PS1, so if they could just program a PS1 emulator that is similar in design to the PS2's support for PS1 games it would run full speed no problem! I just made all that up on the spot, but it sounds good, right?

I fully agree with this

Masamune753 · 09-03-2005, 12:14 AM

PAcmanfan . . . my god . . . . you are hard at work and all I can say is :clap: and that I am :angel: a happy camper

azndefrimista · 09-03-2005, 12:19 AM

how big would the roms be

UK-PSP · 09-03-2005, 12:22 AM

Well destruction derby the original is 5MB

Anything from around this to about... 300mb?

**chronomaster5042** · 09-03-2005, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UK-PSP

Well destruction derby the original is 5MB

Anything from around this to about... 300mb?

mabye a little bigger, depends if you count all the disks (ff7 would be pretty close to a gig all togeather), and what kind of compression he lets us use (he talked about 7zip)

Xizer · 09-03-2005, 02:28 PM

The PSP's 333 MHz processor could easily handle a PS1 emulator.

Remember Bleemcast for the Dreamcast? The DC had a 200 MHz processor and could emulate PSX games perfectly.

**Bad Intentions** · 09-03-2005, 02:48 PM

Oh yea, just remembered, PSX Emulator = Destruction Derby PSP. Thanks!

**brain_stew** · 09-03-2005, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chronomaster5042

mabye a little bigger, depends if you count all the disks (ff7 would be pretty close to a gig all togeather), and what kind of compression he lets us use (he talked about 7zip)

PacMan Fan has already implemented gzip, so the isos will be about half the size. Take away cut scenes and dummy files and most disc isos will be under 100MB with a few exceptions.

Also, for things like Final Fantasy do you really need all three discs at once? I mean each disc'll last you roughly 20 hours so having one on at a time would be more than sufficient. This game had lots of FMV so if you took that away and then gziped the file the discs would be quite small, I'd imagine between 100MB - 250MB max. per disc. So there may even be the possability of fitting it all on a 512MB stick tho this would be pushing it.

Masamune753 · 09-03-2005, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brain_stew

PacMan Fan has already implemented gzip, so the isos will be about half the size. Take away cut scenes and dummy files and most disc isos will be under 100MB with a few exceptions.

wait do you mean that PSx emulated games wont have the cut scenes?

elifecyber · 09-03-2005, 03:02 PM

I was recently trying to figure out PS1 emulation on PSP myself, but I don't think I understand it, it so damn hard, i'm amazed at what you guys pull off. Best of luck guys! I may even donate something later.

Me goes back dreaming...

*Aww Cloud on my PSP, and then there's snake who I can move myself... And of course Squall..

*

**chronomaster5042** · 09-03-2005, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masamune753

wait do you mean that PSx emulated games wont have the cut scenes?

no what he means is you CAN open up the ISO images and take out the FMV's and sound files (mabye others) which will help the size. And most games dont use the full disk. I could see a cutdown gziped iso being about 100 - 50 Mb on average(but some people must have their FMV's)

IitachiI · 09-03-2005, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azndefrimista

how big would the roms be

umm just a little info the playstation games produce iso image files because its from a cd. Cartridges from n64 games or the old snes games produce roms.

linux_inside v2 · 09-03-2005, 06:15 PM

considering that the original psone used a MIPS R3000A for its main cpu,
the MIPS R4000A in the psp uses the MIPS II Instruction set, and is compatible with all its predecessors.

so theres half your work done, cpu calls dont need to be emulated so i hope you arent porting the core from another emulator.

09-01-2005, 01:37 PM	#1
darkriku PREMIUM Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 611 Trader Feedback: 0	No Ps1 Emulator! Theres no ps emulator i jut found out . Here is a quote from a person on this webstie. "that PSONE emulator with the video was a fake. and downgrader should be out by at the least the 7th of this month. oh yeah i almost forgot that N64 emulator has been canceled i read about that on insane psp" ya sorry peeps im sad and pissed 2 if this is wrong PLZ PLZ SAY! :wall: :doh:

09-01-2005, 01:41 PM	#2
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09-01-2005, 01:51 PM	#3
brain_stew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Newcastle, England Posts: 3,145 Trader Feedback: 0	PacManFan is still working on his PSOne emulator (he's even released an alpha version, check the files section) and it will be ready when its ready. The PSOne emulator that this refers to was an obvious fake and one that everyone knew was fake the moment the video surfaced. This is seriousley old news. __________________ [B][URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=16878]Ultimate Newbie Guide[/URL] [/B] [b] Read about:[/b] [url="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=9708"][color=Purple][b]Operation: PSPositive Posting[/b][/url] [b] [url="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=2047"]Posting Guidelines[/url][/b] [b][url="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=2189"][color=Red]Ultimate Guide[/color][/url][/b] [b][url="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=4394"][color=Green]Piracy Policy[/color][/url][/b] [b][url="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=18175"][Downgrader Topic][/url][/color][/b] [URL=www.maximopark.com]MON THE PARK![/URL] [URL=www.thefutureheads.com]Le Heads rule[/URL] [B][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Red"] [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]

09-02-2005, 10:30 AM	#9
PacManFan Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 29 Trader Feedback: 0	Right here I'm still working on the PSPSOne emu. I've been on vacation for the past week, but I expect to get back into developing the recompiler in the next few days. I'm now working with another developer(Baggers) who is working the GPU plugin. He's putting in GE calls to give hardware acceleration to the triangle rendering functions and to the blitting. I'm working on speeding up the emulation with the recompiler. There are still a few more details and issues to work out with the recompiler, but overall, it's progressing nicely. I'm not going to promise any release dates, but I can tell everyone that full speed PS1 emulation is definately possible and coming. Donations would be nice, it might help Baggers and I to find more time in our busy lives.(Hint Hint) I'll see if I can post some more screen shots soon. -PMF out

09-02-2005, 02:47 PM	#10
brain_stew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Newcastle, England Posts: 3,145 Trader Feedback: 0	PacManFan could you tell me your Paypal address and we'll add it to the official donation thread, coupled with a couple of screenshots I'm sure we'll be able to get you a little help. Oh, and to hear you say full speed PS1 emulation makes me a very happy guy! Salivates over the possability of portable Metal Gear Solid __________________ [B][URL=http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=16878]Ultimate Newbie Guide[/URL] [/B] [b] Read about:[/b] [url="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=9708"][color=Purple][b]Operation: PSPositive Posting[/b][/url] [b] [url="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=2047"]Posting Guidelines[/url][/b] [b][url="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=2189"][color=Red]Ultimate Guide[/color][/url][/b] [b][url="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=4394"][color=Green]Piracy Policy[/color][/url][/b] [b][url="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=18175"][Downgrader Topic][/url][/color][/b] [URL=www.maximopark.com]MON THE PARK![/URL] [URL=www.thefutureheads.com]Le Heads rule[/URL] [B][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Red"] [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]

09-01-2005, 10:23 PM	#4
AnimeTheme Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 226 Trader Feedback: 0	I don't think PSP has enough processing power to run a totally smooth PS1 emulator... so don't put too much hope into it.

09-02-2005, 06:53 AM	#5
Killerah Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 13 Trader Feedback: 0	Well everyone knows that the architecture of the PSP is based on the PS2 which was designed to work well with the PS1, so if they could just program a PS1 emulator that is similar in design to the PS2's support for PS1 games it would run full speed no problem! I just made all that up on the spot, but it sounds good, right?

09-02-2005, 08:20 AM	#6
markymanxxx Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 309 Trader Feedback: 0	If Sony made their own PSP port of Final Fantasy VII (it would fit onto one UMD), then I would buy it. With that, and maybe the same for the original MGS, what's the need for a PS1 emulator?

09-02-2005, 08:48 AM	#7
lewbacca Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 54 Trader Feedback: 0	oh yeah i would buy every metal gear solid game :O

09-02-2005, 08:55 AM	#8
chronomaster5042 My Mood: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: right here in river city Posts: 515 Trader Feedback: 0	Has anyone heard from PacManFan recently?

09-02-2005, 03:01 PM	#12
UK-PSP Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 46 Trader Feedback: 0	Yea it sounds amazing.... Wait a minute god-damned fecking v1.52 PSP... :doh:

09-02-2005, 03:35 PM	#14
orphan frequently Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 95 Trader Feedback: 0	wait, doesnt the psone controller have more buttons than the psp, how is that going to work?

09-02-2005, 03:38 PM	#15
gamesrus Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: My house Posts: 384 Trader Feedback: 0	I cant wait!!its going to be so awsome!!!!you are really smart and good and this stuff. i wish i could do stuff like this. This is so awsome!!!This is goin to be my favorite emulator!!if only i had paypal :think:

09-02-2005, 06:25 PM	#16
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09-03-2005, 12:14 AM	#19
Masamune753 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 28 Trader Feedback: 0	PAcmanfan . . . my god . . . . you are hard at work and all I can say is :clap: and that I am :angel: a happy camper

09-03-2005, 12:19 AM	#20
azndefrimista Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 33 Trader Feedback: 0	how big would the roms be

09-03-2005, 12:22 AM	#21
UK-PSP Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 46 Trader Feedback: 0	Well destruction derby the original is 5MB Anything from around this to about... 300mb?

09-03-2005, 02:28 PM	#23
Xizer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 46 Trader Feedback: 0	The PSP's 333 MHz processor could easily handle a PS1 emulator. Remember Bleemcast for the Dreamcast? The DC had a 200 MHz processor and could emulate PSX games perfectly.

09-03-2005, 02:48 PM	#24
Bad Intentions I Steal Bikes Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New London, CT Posts: 1,370 Trader Feedback: 0	Oh yea, just remembered, PSX Emulator = Destruction Derby PSP. Thanks!

09-03-2005, 03:02 PM	#27
elifecyber Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10 Trader Feedback: 0	I was recently trying to figure out PS1 emulation on PSP myself, but I don't think I understand it, it so damn hard, i'm amazed at what you guys pull off. Best of luck guys! I may even donate something later. Me goes back dreaming... Aww Cloud on my PSP, and then there's snake who I can move myself... And of course Squall..

09-03-2005, 06:15 PM	#30
linux_inside v2 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12 Trader Feedback: 0	considering that the original psone used a MIPS R3000A for its main cpu, the MIPS R4000A in the psp uses the MIPS II Instruction set, and is compatible with all its predecessors. so theres half your work done, cpu calls dont need to be emulated so i hope you arent porting the core from another emulator.

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