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**someone0** · 10-01-2005, 06:10 PM

Accroding to the latest PSP news at the maxconsole, as of 10/01@18:00, SXT claim that MPH version of the downgrader can is unstable and have 5-10% bricking change.
Well, let's prove that SXT/Yoshi is right or WRONG.

**N-Mario** · 10-01-2005, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by someone0

Accroding to the latest PSP news at the maxconsole, as of 10/01@18:00, SXT claim that MPH version of the downgrader can is unstable and have 5-10% bricking change.
Well, let's prove that SXT/Yoshi is right or WRONG.

So, how do you expect us to proove whether he is right or wrong? Do you want us to upgrade to 2.00, then dwongrade using MPH's v0.9 method, then upgrade to 2.00 again, and then downgrade using SXT's v1.0 method to see which firmware changer does/works better to dwongrade to 1.50?

**st.jimmy** · 10-01-2005, 06:42 PM

im not even gonna touch upgrading again. screw dat. i luv teh downgrader, and ive had no problems.

**FrozenIpaq** · 10-01-2005, 06:49 PM

Lol, it is impossible to make something safe that flashes to the firmware :P Since the update flashes to the firmware, there is always a chance. SXT are just looking to say that they are better/the best, it is really getting old and noobish

**Hmboy** · 10-01-2005, 07:10 PM

dont bother with sxt, they want publicity, and your giving it to them... they are getting lots of visitors to their site which means they make money from ad hits.. just forget bout them.

**someone0** · 10-01-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by N-Mario

So, how do you expect us to proove whether he is right or wrong? Do you want us to upgrade to 2.00, then dwongrade using MPH's v0.9 method, then upgrade to 2.00 again, and then downgrade using SXT's v1.0 method to see which firmware changer does/works better to dwongrade to 1.50?

No body have to do that, I just collecting data, and if anyone DID downgraded using MPH, then please paticipate.

**MasterMagneto** · 10-01-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by st.jimmy

im not even gonna touch upgrading again. screw dat. i luv teh downgrader, and ive had no problems.

Wow that is dedication man, enjoy yourself, and try to come outta your corner every once in a while, it's not healthy.

And this jealousy is so childish, the downgrader hasnt failed anyone as far as we know, somebody's just a little cranky because they've been beaten to a sucessful downgrader.

**Garp** · 10-01-2005, 07:53 PM

No...I think they're cranky because so many people PREDICTED that they would be beaten to the download. Heh. Still, we don't need to encourage flame wars between the Montagues and the Capulets here. Keep it civil, guys. So far, so good.

**MasterMagneto** · 10-01-2005, 08:04 PM

Haha nice romeo and juliet reference, i played Tibalt in a play once and i think i made a damn good capulet.

haha And i agree, no more "this group vs. this group" flame wars, the homebrewer vs. updater one was recently smashed, we dont need another.

**demologik** · 10-01-2005, 08:19 PM

actually.. mph had the beta v.09 and it never worked for me.. i stumbled upon SXT v1.0 and it worked for me.. so i think that its good to have more than one option to downgrade.. now my original 1.5 (1001) is back!

**N-Mario** · 10-01-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by demologik

actually.. mph had the beta v.09 and it never worked for me.. i stumbled upon SXT v1.0 and it worked for me.. so i think that its good to have more than one option to downgrade.. now my original 1.5 (1001) is back!

Maybe because you forgot to include some important file (in PSP root directory perhaps?) in MPH's downgarder, whereas the SXT's version works for n00b's who don't know what they're doing. (No offense man)

**Garp** · 10-01-2005, 09:10 PM

Options are great and I'm all for them...I'm just against fighting over which is better.

**someone0** · 10-01-2005, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Garp

Options are great and I'm all for them...I'm just against fighting over which is better.

Are you still a man, if we don't fight about mine is bigger/better than your, what else are we gonna fight about

**hefehefe2000** · 10-01-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by someone0

Are you still a man, if we don't fight about mine is bigger/better than your, what else are we gonna fight about

Maybe we could fight about :" Should we fight? " ? :P heheh

**z357x** · 10-01-2005, 10:30 PM

It's called margin of error and MPH probably gave those figures to statistly cover their a**es if tons of peopel went bad suddenly. SXT's numbers are probably the same as MPH. It's like the Pizza guys sayyou'll get it in an hour and it's actually forty minutes.

**someone0** · 10-01-2005, 11:40 PM

It's too early to tell, cuz, I don't believe that only 41 people downgraded using MPH downgrader

**demologik** · 12-07-2005, 09:31 AM

actuallly i included all the right files every time.. and for some reason my psp would just lock up.. no memcard acccess.. just locked up and reset itself.. when i tried sxt's version.. it worked the first time.. and it had onscreen text overlay which showed what it was doing.. therefore sxt's was more cleaner of a downgrader.. no noob here.. i know alot about computers.. sheit, i build pc's in my spare time..along with writing music.. sadly.. i was a screw up in high school.. and i skipped my computer programming classes a lot.. so i learned a bit in VBS and C but not enough to write my own progs.. that information is a little rusty now.. =[

**markymanxxx** · 12-07-2005, 09:41 AM

I downgraded with MPH's program as soon as it was announced and tested, and successfully...

Now my friend wants his 2.0 to be a 1.5, should we use the MPH or SXT downgrader?

**Fanjita** · 12-07-2005, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by markymanxxx

I downgraded with MPH's program as soon as it was announced and tested, and successfully...

Now my friend wants his 2.0 to be a 1.5, should we use the MPH or SXT downgrader?

There's not much between them, based on the code. Each has a slightly different window for bricking.

The SXT one is slightly more user-friendly, so it's probably the best to use. I've been working on my own downgrader that should combine the best features of both, but it's not really ready for primetime yet.

**iball®** · 12-07-2005, 10:11 AM

This should have really been an "open" poll so we can see exactly WHO is reporting bricking using MPH.

**hippie** · 12-07-2005, 01:02 PM

i remember the days i trusted yoshiro then the bullcrap came lol

**Matt123** · 12-07-2005, 01:06 PM

I've downgraded my PSP with the MPH when it came out, then my other one with the SXT. The SXT was a lot easier, and informative. But they both work the exact same.

**Mast3r_Shak3** · 12-07-2005, 03:31 PM

Man i got my lil 10 yr old bro into homebrew(boy wuz it hell teachin him bout it and how to install though) i come home from school and hes there sayin 'I downgraded my PSP!' and sure enough... he did... w/ SXT downgrader lol.

**nwlilman** · 12-07-2005, 03:42 PM

Successful, work fine no problem. 95.74%
Successful, but buggy. 4.26%
Failed, but that is my fault for not RTFM or whatever. 1.06%
Failed, and I can't believe SXT is right. 4.26%

Total 105.32% ?????

I just noticed this.
Is this a bug in the way survey results are shown?

**TeamOverload** · 12-07-2005, 05:40 PM

i dont kno. thats strange

acidtreat101 · 12-07-2005, 10:19 PM

Well, I just have to say the MPH downgrader works like a charm for me. Just downgraded a second time with no problems on the original downgrader. I have to say even though playing official games is fun, homebrew kicks so much ass.

Anyways yeah, MPH downgrader works awesomely for me.

**Theknightinhell** · 12-08-2005, 06:30 AM

i did the MPH downgrader and it worked fine.

**Evab3vA** · 12-08-2005, 11:23 AM

What a pointless thread.

**will1234** · 12-08-2005, 12:00 PM

i downloaded the downgrader as soon as it came out even before it was posted on the front page and have used it plenty of times and it has been successful everytime. I think that yoshi just made up that bullcrap to make people use his.

**markymanxxx** · 12-09-2005, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fanjita

There's not much between them, based on the code. Each has a slightly different window for bricking.

The SXT one is slightly more user-friendly, so it's probably the best to use. I've been working on my own downgrader that should combine the best features of both, but it's not really ready for primetime yet.

Thanks,
I just used MPH's again with no problems at all - I love MPH

I can see how a more user friendly downgrader could be handy for people who won't understand terms like "root directory"...

Oh well, I've just made my PSP is a 1.5 for the third time

View Poll Results: How did your downgrade using MPH downgrader goes?
Successful, work fine no problem.	142	93.42%
Successful, but buggy.	6	3.95%
Failed, but that is my fault for not RTFM or whatever.	1	0.66%
Failed, and I can't believe SXT is right.	8	5.26%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 152. You may not vote on this poll

10-01-2005, 06:10 PM	#1
someone0 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 350 Trader Feedback: 0	Downgrade statistic to proof that SXT is right/WRONG. Accroding to the latest PSP news at the maxconsole, as of 10/01@18:00, SXT claim that MPH version of the downgrader can is unstable and have 5-10% bricking change. Well, let's prove that SXT/Yoshi is right or WRONG.

10-01-2005, 07:53 PM	#8
Garp Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,042 Trader Feedback: 0	No...I think they're cranky because so many people PREDICTED that they would be beaten to the download. Heh. Still, we don't need to encourage flame wars between the Montagues and the Capulets here. Keep it civil, guys. So far, so good. __________________ [center][b]Mario WFC Friend Code for Garp 236282 679010 Animal Crossing Friend Code for Garp 1804-4961-5896[/center][/b]

10-01-2005, 08:04 PM	#9
MasterMagneto Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The HTP Posts: 4,511 Trader Feedback: 0	Haha nice romeo and juliet reference, i played Tibalt in a play once and i think i made a damn good capulet. haha And i agree, no more "this group vs. this group" flame wars, the homebrewer vs. updater one was recently smashed, we dont need another. __________________ Meh.

10-01-2005, 09:10 PM	#12
Garp Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,042 Trader Feedback: 0	Options are great and I'm all for them...I'm just against fighting over which is better. __________________ [center][b]Mario WFC Friend Code for Garp 236282 679010 Animal Crossing Friend Code for Garp 1804-4961-5896[/center][/b]

10-01-2005, 06:42 PM	#3
st.jimmy Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: MD \| Fries: 13 Posts: 1,019 Trader Feedback: 0	im not even gonna touch upgrading again. screw dat. i luv teh downgrader, and ive had no problems.

10-01-2005, 06:49 PM	#4
FrozenIpaq Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,986 Trader Feedback: 0	Lol, it is impossible to make something safe that flashes to the firmware :P Since the update flashes to the firmware, there is always a chance. SXT are just looking to say that they are better/the best, it is really getting old and noobish

10-01-2005, 07:10 PM	#5
Hmboy Aussie! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Perth, Australia. Posts: 371 Trader Feedback: 0	dont bother with sxt, they want publicity, and your giving it to them... they are getting lots of visitors to their site which means they make money from ad hits.. just forget bout them.

10-01-2005, 08:19 PM	#10
demologik Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 227 Trader Feedback: 0	actually.. mph had the beta v.09 and it never worked for me.. i stumbled upon SXT v1.0 and it worked for me.. so i think that its good to have more than one option to downgrade.. now my original 1.5 (1001) is back!

10-01-2005, 10:30 PM	#15
z357x Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: "Out for Soda" Posts: 1,362 Trader Feedback: 0	It's called margin of error and MPH probably gave those figures to statistly cover their a**es if tons of peopel went bad suddenly. SXT's numbers are probably the same as MPH. It's like the Pizza guys sayyou'll get it in an hour and it's actually forty minutes. __________________ [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/z357z/Photoshop/BKsig.jpg[/IMG]

10-01-2005, 11:40 PM	#16
someone0 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 350 Trader Feedback: 0	It's too early to tell, cuz, I don't believe that only 41 people downgraded using MPH downgrader

12-07-2005, 09:31 AM	#17
demologik Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 227 Trader Feedback: 0	actuallly i included all the right files every time.. and for some reason my psp would just lock up.. no memcard acccess.. just locked up and reset itself.. when i tried sxt's version.. it worked the first time.. and it had onscreen text overlay which showed what it was doing.. therefore sxt's was more cleaner of a downgrader.. no noob here.. i know alot about computers.. sheit, i build pc's in my spare time..along with writing music.. sadly.. i was a screw up in high school.. and i skipped my computer programming classes a lot.. so i learned a bit in VBS and C but not enough to write my own progs.. that information is a little rusty now.. =[

12-07-2005, 09:41 AM	#18
markymanxxx Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 309 Trader Feedback: 0	SXT or MPH? I downgraded with MPH's program as soon as it was announced and tested, and successfully... Now my friend wants his 2.0 to be a 1.5, should we use the MPH or SXT downgrader?

12-07-2005, 10:11 AM	#20
iball® My Mood: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Interstates Posts: 9,652 Trader Feedback: 0	This should have really been an "open" poll so we can see exactly WHO is reporting bricking using MPH. __________________ [spoiler=signature][center][img]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d75/iball2929/iballsig2fz.jpg[/img][/center] [size=-2][center][b][color=purple]Nintendo DS WFC codes[/b][/color][/center][/size][size=-2][center][b][color=green]Mario Kart DS: 180448 583615 (I-Ball)[/color] [color=blue]Animal Crossing: Town of Sampson 4853-9284-6519 (I-Ball)[/color] [color=red]Metroid Prime Hunters: 5025 8054 3555[/size][/center][/color][size=-2][center]-----------------[/center][center][color=blue]Homebrew authors! If your software is based upon GPL code then you MUST release the modified source code you created the same time you release the binaries![/b][/size][/color][/center] [size=-2][center][b]Supercard mini-SD w/2GB 150x Mini-SD card, SuperPass II, FlashMe v7 and an EFA Linker II GBA flashcart[/b][/center][/size][/spoiler]

12-07-2005, 01:02 PM	#21
hippie Enter Custom Title Elite Hippie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 863 Trader Feedback: 0	i remember the days i trusted yoshiro then the bullcrap came lol

12-07-2005, 01:06 PM	#22
Matt123 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 624 Trader Feedback: 0	I've downgraded my PSP with the MPH when it came out, then my other one with the SXT. The SXT was a lot easier, and informative. But they both work the exact same.

12-07-2005, 03:31 PM	#23
Mast3r_Shak3 Is in your zone. Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 3,429 Trader Feedback: 0	Man i got my lil 10 yr old bro into homebrew(boy wuz it hell teachin him bout it and how to install though) i come home from school and hes there sayin 'I downgraded my PSP!' and sure enough... he did... w/ SXT downgrader lol. __________________ --XBL Gamertag: PhenoM904--

12-07-2005, 03:42 PM	#24
nwlilman Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 90 Trader Feedback: 0	Successful, work fine no problem. 95.74% Successful, but buggy. 4.26% Failed, but that is my fault for not RTFM or whatever. 1.06% Failed, and I can't believe SXT is right. 4.26% Total 105.32% ????? I just noticed this. Is this a bug in the way survey results are shown?

12-07-2005, 05:40 PM	#25
TeamOverload Rock Star FamousLastX Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CT\| FW: 4.01 M33-2 Posts: 11,844 Trader Feedback: 0	i dont kno. thats strange __________________

12-07-2005, 10:19 PM	#26
acidtreat101 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 46 Trader Feedback: 0	Well, I just have to say the MPH downgrader works like a charm for me. Just downgraded a second time with no problems on the original downgrader. I have to say even though playing official games is fun, homebrew kicks so much ass. Anyways yeah, MPH downgrader works awesomely for me.

12-08-2005, 06:30 AM	#27
Theknightinhell Suicide Silence Theknightinhell Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,163 Trader Feedback: 0	i did the MPH downgrader and it worked fine. __________________

12-08-2005, 11:23 AM	#28
Evab3vA Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 909 Trader Feedback: 0	What a pointless thread. __________________ [CENTER][IMG]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f258/Evab3vA/evasig.png[/IMG] [CENTER][B][COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][FONT="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE=1]QJ ex-300k Cool Member[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/CENTER] [FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE=1][color=black]C2D E6600 [B]@ 3.5[/B] [color=royalblue][B]/[/B][/color] Asus GTX280 [B]@ 702/1511/2600[/B] 2GB OCZ PC6400 [color=royalblue][B]/[/B][/color] Tagan TG700-BZ [color=royalblue][B]/[/B][/color] X-Fi Fatal1ty Pro Asus P5B-Dx [color=royalblue][B]/[/B][/color] Spinpoint 1TB [color=royalblue][B]/[/B][/color] Caviar 500GB + 320GB Sony 40X2000 [color=royalblue][B]/[/B][/color] XP Pro SP2 [color=royalblue][B]/[/B][/color] Antec Nine Hundred[/SIZE][/color][/FONT] [/CENTER]

12-08-2005, 12:00 PM	#29
will1234 Join Date: Oct 2005 Real First Name: Will Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 844 Trader Feedback: 0	i downloaded the downgrader as soon as it came out even before it was posted on the front page and have used it plenty of times and it has been successful everytime. I think that yoshi just made up that bullcrap to make people use his.

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