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**Nem** · 10-10-2005, 09:53 AM

can anyone update me on the homebrew on 2.0 situation? Last I checked it was completely impossible, but I just say a thread about an eboot loader for 2.0 thats lets you run hb...has 2.0 finally been cracked?

and what is currently the best way to get homebrew running on 2.0 firmware?

**KINGOFNOOBS** · 10-10-2005, 09:56 AM

well sorta yes you can run EBOOT but since it runs in user space not all the eboots will work.

**Lukero** · 10-10-2005, 10:01 AM

it is only very basic games/apps that will run, until they get access to the kernel mode of the psp it will remain that way, hust downgrade your psp to a 1.50 to enjoy full homebrew action

**ImBoReDx14** · 10-10-2005, 11:23 AM

I'm not 100% sure, but last time I checked, the only playable game on 2.0 homebrew was pong, but I might be wrong...

hkese · 10-10-2005, 12:32 PM

not so fast 4 2.0 homebrew

**oren** · 10-10-2005, 12:47 PM

arent there any lists over what can be run in userspace and not?.. can you emulate? or does that require kernelmode??

**Fanjita** · 10-11-2005, 09:09 AM

The situation is still a little unclear as to what runs with the latest loader, not much testing has been done yet.

However Nem, your Hello World app is one of the ones that runs...

Generally, if you compile something under PSPSDK and just use user-mode, you should be just fine. There's currently a limitation with using relative pathnames in file operations - the loader makes no effort to chdir anywhere - but I hope to fix that very soon, and you can use fully-spec'd pathnames in the meantime.

I think (without much basis in investigation) that the issue with a lot of emulators at the moment is their use of the DebugPrintf screen within the SDK, which seems to pull in some kernel-mode management of stdio streams. This certainly seems to be the only major issue with LUAPlayer. I'm hoping that we may be able to work around that with a lot of the apps, so we may be able to get some emulators running too.

I'm also guessing that getting UMD emulation running is not going to be possible, because I assume that requires kernel access to fool the system.

**Nem** · 10-11-2005, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanjita

I'm also guessing that getting UMD emulation running is not going to be possible, because I assume that requires kernel access to fool the system.

what makes it so hard to access the kernel on a psp when its relatively easy to do on windows?

santosdominic · 10-11-2005, 02:19 PM

It's easy on windows because they actualy let you, on a PSP they have tried to block homebrew now, i.e. stop any kinda of access (whether user or kernel). It can only run in user-mode currently and not kernel because the photo menu only runs in user mode (or so I think, I'm not entirely sure on that one). We have to wait until they find a way of bypassing whatever barrier there is between user-mode and kernel-mode.

mmhardky · 10-11-2005, 03:14 PM

Haha, nobody believed me when I was telling the downgrader will kill 2.0 Homebrew...

**Joseph Stalin 2** · 10-11-2005, 03:28 PM

lol i believed you though

**websyndicate** · 10-11-2005, 08:45 PM

It will come in time like everything else has. 2.0 homebrews is right around the corner. Well thats what I think atleast.

**z357x** · 10-11-2005, 08:48 PM

I hope it can use SNES and PSP PDA soon, those are the HomeBrews I use the most.

10-10-2005, 09:53 AM	#1
Nem Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Swindon, UK Posts: 78 Trader Feedback: 0	Homebrew on 2.0 can anyone update me on the homebrew on 2.0 situation? Last I checked it was completely impossible, but I just say a thread about an eboot loader for 2.0 thats lets you run hb...has 2.0 finally been cracked? and what is currently the best way to get homebrew running on 2.0 firmware?

10-10-2005, 09:56 AM	#2
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10-11-2005, 08:45 PM	#12
websyndicate Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hacks 4 fun.... Posts: 540 Trader Feedback: 0	It will come in time like everything else has. 2.0 homebrews is right around the corner. Well thats what I think atleast. __________________ My Toys PSP, PS3, XBOX 360, iPhone, iPod Nano 3gn, MacBook, 20inch iMac, Canon Rebel Xti DSLR.

10-11-2005, 08:48 PM	#13
z357x Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: "Out for Soda" Posts: 1,362 Trader Feedback: 0	I hope it can use SNES and PSP PDA soon, those are the HomeBrews I use the most. __________________ [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/z357z/Photoshop/BKsig.jpg[/IMG]

10-10-2005, 10:01 AM	#3
Lukero Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 76 Trader Feedback: 0	it is only very basic games/apps that will run, until they get access to the kernel mode of the psp it will remain that way, hust downgrade your psp to a 1.50 to enjoy full homebrew action

10-10-2005, 11:23 AM	#4
ImBoReDx14 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cape Cod, MA Posts: 124 Trader Feedback: 0	I'm not 100% sure, but last time I checked, the only playable game on 2.0 homebrew was pong, but I might be wrong...

10-10-2005, 12:32 PM	#5
hkese Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 39 Trader Feedback: 0	not so fast 4 2.0 homebrew

10-10-2005, 12:47 PM	#6
oren Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 136 Trader Feedback: 0	arent there any lists over what can be run in userspace and not?.. can you emulate? or does that require kernelmode??

10-11-2005, 09:09 AM	#7
Fanjita Muppet Magnet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Edinburgh, UK Posts: 2,388 Trader Feedback: 0	The situation is still a little unclear as to what runs with the latest loader, not much testing has been done yet. However Nem, your Hello World app is one of the ones that runs... Generally, if you compile something under PSPSDK and just use user-mode, you should be just fine. There's currently a limitation with using relative pathnames in file operations - the loader makes no effort to chdir anywhere - but I hope to fix that very soon, and you can use fully-spec'd pathnames in the meantime. I think (without much basis in investigation) that the issue with a lot of emulators at the moment is their use of the DebugPrintf screen within the SDK, which seems to pull in some kernel-mode management of stdio streams. This certainly seems to be the only major issue with LUAPlayer. I'm hoping that we may be able to work around that with a lot of the apps, so we may be able to get some emulators running too. I'm also guessing that getting UMD emulation running is not going to be possible, because I assume that requires kernel access to fool the system.

10-11-2005, 02:19 PM	#9
santosdominic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK Posts: 46 Trader Feedback: 0	It's easy on windows because they actualy let you, on a PSP they have tried to block homebrew now, i.e. stop any kinda of access (whether user or kernel). It can only run in user-mode currently and not kernel because the photo menu only runs in user mode (or so I think, I'm not entirely sure on that one). We have to wait until they find a way of bypassing whatever barrier there is between user-mode and kernel-mode.

10-11-2005, 03:14 PM	#10
mmhardky Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4 Trader Feedback: 0	Haha, nobody believed me when I was telling the downgrader will kill 2.0 Homebrew...

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