Snes9xTYL 0.3 for 1.5 discussion thread

[AlexA]

Mods - there is a thread in eLoader and 2.01+ Homebrew Discussion, but I want this one dedicated to 1.5 users.
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My first test was .3me Chrono Trigger battle (set to "wait state", first battle in forrest with 3 bugs) :
0 skip - ~42/42 frames (sound is quite slow)
1 skip - ~50/25 (sound is near perfect)
auto skip - ~60/10 (perfect sound)

This is with sound emulation on the ME at 44K. Hacks were set to default.

I went back and did this with .2c (same as above) :
0 skip - ~39/39 frames (sound is quite slow)
1 skip - ~48/24 (sound is "OK")
auto skip - ~60/6 (perfect sound)

This is with sound emulation at 44K. Hacks were set to default.

Anybody else doing testing? When playing in general, it is a little better, but not the increase I was hoping for considering sound processing should be done by the media engine...am I wrong? Maybe there are other settings I should be playing with.

Discuss, I know MANY of you have been waiting for this release!!!! Hopefully the boys quickly release revisions for problems other people are having. Too bad for those 2.0 users, 'eh?

-Alex

[chronomaster5042]

From doing some reading on yoyofr's fourms, turining on fast mode 7 in the hacks menu may help keep the speed up.

[AlexA]

Fast Mode 7 ON = no difference with my particular test.

-Alex

[bl@ckm@ge987]

With or without it, there is definitly a speed increase. Supaer Mario RPG and Yoshi's Island are fully playable at frameskip 2, but the sound is still slow, but the graphics are smooth.

[GarySRi]

add in the softwear accelaration seems to smooth out it a lot

[Linkzie]

I have tested Chrono Trigger with this new version and it's awesome (:. In 0.2c when you battled the sound/music tended to get slow but now it doesn't (:. Donkey Kong Country I and II runs also much better now.

[AlexA]

No doubt it's better, but I'm hoping that all sound emulation can be handled by the ME. I don't know much about it, but I assume it's a seperate processor? Seeing as the thing runs perfect w/o sound, you'd think offloading sound processing to this proc would make for near perfect emulation (not including FX stuff).

If I've made a wrong statement, please correct!

-Alex

[qazwsx]

Sorry if I shouldn't post this here. I'm having problems with this emulator. When I go into the app, I get a error saying : "Error when reading memory stick, please check it for corruption" . Still when the app has started, I can goto where my roms are and select one, and when I do the app freezes up and my psp goes off. I have formatted the memory stick, and redownloaded this app , but I still get the error. Do you have any suggestions about what I should do?

[chronomaster5042]

Originally Posted by AlexA

No doubt it's better, but I'm hoping that all sound emulation can be handled by the ME. I don't know much about it, but I assume it's a seperate processor? Seeing as the thing runs perfect w/o sound, you'd think offloading sound processing to this proc would make for near perfect emulation (not including FX stuff).

If I've made a wrong statement, please correct!

-Alex

You are correct that the ME is another processor. The reason you don't see much of a jump is that only the sound mixing is done on the ME, not all the sound processing. All the sound processing won't be done entirely on the ME because of scync issues (at least not yet).

@qazwsx: What FW are you trying this on?

EDIT: also try psp acc+appr. software to see if that speeds things up

[alteridoS]

I've heard plenty good about this application, but I'm not sure I want to upgrade right now, seeing as how the old version works perfectly fine for me. Although, I do turn off the music to attain greater speed, but I also hate old school SNES music.

[GarySRi]

You can easily run both so you can trial which one you like best

[qazwsx]

Originally Posted by chronomaster5042

@qazwsx: What FW are you trying this on?

I'm on 1.5 , I have had this emulator working for a while before, but for some reason now i've updated the program, it doesn't want to work, even when I try the older version again

[leonheart_a]

whats the diference between the kernal mode and the user mode?

[AlexA]

Originally Posted by chronomaster5042

You are correct that the ME is another processor. The reason you don't see much of a jump is that only the sound mixing is done on the ME, not all the sound processing. All the sound processing won't be done entirely on the ME because of scync issues (at least not yet).

I was thinking about syncing when I wrote that, but I assumed minimal processing would go toward it. I'm sure over time it will get better!!!

-Alex

[AlexA]

Originally Posted by leonheart_a

whats the diference between the kernal mode and the user mode?

kernel mode has access to the (seperate) media processor, user mode does not.

1.0/1.5 = kernel mode
2.0+ = user mode

-Alex

[leonheart_a]

oh ok,thanks!

[Animex2]

Ive found that the game im currently playing (Final Fantasy III) Worked alot faster and better on TYL 0.2C then it does on 0.3

It lags alot even on 4 frameskip on 0.3 when it worked just fine on 2 frameskip on 0.2C

anyone know what to do?

[leonheart_a]

and why are people saying its slower and its not as good as o.2, is this true?

[AlexA]

My test of Chrono Trigger does not show a slow down, but maybe in certain situations?

Just install both, leonheart_a. Place your ROMs in /PSP/GAMES/ROMs or something so both proggies can access it easier. Play a game you are familiar with and pick the one that works best for you.

-Alex

[leonheart_a]

thanks for the tips im gonna put it on now.

[leonheart_a]

ive tried it, and its great so far,but one thing,i cant load save states from the snes 0.2 i dont want to start from the beginning!!!

[iball®]

Anyone try any serious Mode 7 games yet? How's Mario Kart play now?

[GarySRi]

Lot less jerky still not perfect but 100%better

[Animex2]

Originally Posted by leonheart_a

ive tried it, and its great so far,but one thing,i cant load save states from the snes 0.2 i dont want to start from the beginning!!!

i can load my save states in 0.3 just fine from 0.2

[leonheart_a]

you can,well il try again,and also when i put the psp on sleep mode it freezes,how come,
has this happened to any one?

[Klarth]

F-Zero runs slightly better, but it's not fully playable, sadly.

[Killer 7]

Im running into some major sound issues for super mario all-stars + world. And a few games seems to run a bit slower.

[soxfan4525]

I have 1.5 which version of the new snestyl should i get?

[therealElvis]

Originally Posted by soxfan4525

I have 1.5 which version of the new snestyl should i get?

The "me" version.

I have the same problem with loading my old saves. I get this error:" Savedate is not a freeze data" (or something very similar :razz: ).

Hopefully you can help me.

And btw. I tried Yoshis Island and I was impressed of the great performanceboost, but then I just fell through the "floor". The textures seem to be a little buggy.

[AlexA]

Originally Posted by leonheart_a

you can,well il try again,and also when i put the psp on sleep mode it freezes,how come, has this happened to any one?

It says it right when you start up that it doesn't support sleep if you use the ME edition.

Anyone else done any benchmarks with favorite games?

-Alex