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fil · 02-07-2006, 05:00 PM

http://psp3d.com/showthread.php?p=59666

check it out, i have more hope for this one because it has never been tried (as far as i know) this perticular way before

**PSPHax0r9** · 02-07-2006, 05:02 PM

I REALLY doubt this works.

But I am HIGHLY sure we we have a new entry to the fake downgraders list.

**NeilR** · 02-07-2006, 05:04 PM

Everyone on PSP3d think it's BS, why do you think any differently? How is this any different than the dozen fake downgraders we see week after week?

Explain... like anyone starting a thread should please. I'll give you a few to elaborate...

**PSPHax0r9** · 02-07-2006, 05:06 PM

And please don't link to the Italian thread again, I'm not going to sign up to an Italian Forum just to read an article I can't even understand. And translators never work real well anyway. Could you at least copy and paste the post into this thread? Thank you.

**Hooger** · 02-07-2006, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSPHax0r9

But I am HIGHLY sure we we have a new entry to the fake downgraders list.

lol how many "fake downgraders" is there now? ive only been here for a while but ive read lots of threads about downgrade "theories" but so far about o lets -15.15% have been real besides of corse the 2.0>1.5 :mrgreen:

fil · 02-07-2006, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSPHax0r9

And please don't link to the Italian thread again, I'm not going to sign up to an Italian Forum just to read an article I can't even understand. And translators never work real well anyway. Could you at least copy and paste the post into this thread? Thank you.

sorry but iam not registered there either, but i believe someone explains what the author posted in the thread on psp3d

btw, dont flame me if u think its bs, i just thought it was interesting that he managed view flash0..

**SpiderJames** · 02-07-2006, 05:16 PM

well a person at the psp3d forum, is italian and he is translating the website for us, the person who hacked his psp, he was able to run linux and got acces to flash0 on his psp,and it is very complicated just go to the forums

**PSPHax0r9** · 02-07-2006, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fil

sorry but iam not registered there either, but i believe someone explains what the author posted in the thread on psp3d

btw, dont flame me if u think its bs, i just thought it was interesting that he managed view flash0..

No, no I wasn't flaming. Trust me if I was flaming you, you would know it.

But I do think this is BS in terms of a downgrader. That's great that he can view the flash0, but that doesn't mean downgrader. (that's not directed towards you, just the concept in general). Oh well.

**Macca** · 02-07-2006, 05:21 PM

this must be fake, even psp3d are saying so

**JinxDraco** · 02-07-2006, 05:49 PM

Hey hey hey! Now read the whole thread. It's really interesting what's going on there.

Apparently the guy claims he can read/write flash0.

He also says that he's not afraid of bricking because he can always access flash0 and just recopy what's needed.

But...isnt the whole deal about writing to flash1 ?

Im a n00b in those terms, nevertheless this is an interesting read, and I've bookmarked it.

**NeilR** · 02-07-2006, 05:56 PM

I read the whole thread too. The guy, who hasn't even posted there, apparently was able to read the flash0 contents; there's no mention of writing to it. If, and I mean IF, he can write to it then he might be on to something. As of now, he's done a very lengthy procedure to do something which File Assistant has enabled us to do for some time.

**makarman** · 02-07-2006, 05:56 PM

Salve,sono nuovo di qui Very Happy
io sia per lavoro che per hobby programmo ed adoro la filosofia open source.
Invece di programmare tutti per conto nostro per sto downgrade da 2.5 ad 1.5 non possiamo fare un analisi assieme per poi arrivare ad una soluzione efficace?
secondo me è una soluzione buona che ogniuno dica la sua così da rendere il compito + veloce (un po come lo sviluppo del kernel di linux insomma)

che ne dite??

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**Eclipse9069** · 02-07-2006, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JinxDraco

Hey hey hey! Now read the whole thread. It's really interesting what's going on there.

Apparently the guy claims he can read/write flash0.

He also says that he's not afraid of bricking because he can always access flash0 and just recopy what's needed.

But...isnt the whole deal about writing to flash1 ?

Im a n00b in those terms, nevertheless this is an interesting read, and I've bookmarked it.

No, the whole deal is writting to flash0. Flash0 has all the information for the PSP's content, and what's in the firmware.
Flash1 is only settings, time zones, time, date, custom wallpaper, etc.

**Daegalus** · 02-07-2006, 06:23 PM

Hmm, I use linux and I don't see how he did it without writing his own software, but maybe it works, im going to try it later when i find a linux that fits on a 32 mb stick. I will test it and see if it is actually true.

There is a 1% chance this does work. If it doesnt, we can wait for PSP-Linux, flash PSP linux on there, take all the PSP 1.5 files, and place them there, then delete linux, viola, downgrade.

**Eternal-Cowboy** · 02-07-2006, 07:06 PM

Wtf Is A Flash!?

**cwirsing** · 02-07-2006, 08:17 PM

If it has full kernal access then why would we need a downgrader.

**FreePlay** · 02-07-2006, 08:20 PM

Flash0 is the firmware... and they're lying. As usual.

**fyrehart** · 02-07-2006, 08:22 PM

well you gotta remember that it's not PSP3D saying they might have a downgrader... it's just a post on the forums of PSP3D about another forum that says they might have one... and the person is "supposed" to be a credible programmer

...and no, i dont believe it either, but whatever

**FreePlay** · 02-07-2006, 08:22 PM

Oh my God, you must be kidding me. He says he can access the flash chip through USB. He's lying through his teeth. Just because you're running Linux doesn't mean you can accomplish technologically impossible tasks.

**fyrehart** · 02-07-2006, 08:30 PM

lol good point... eh, whatever. no big deal really. i suppose the thread should be locked now since nothing productive will come from this

**cyanide** · 02-08-2006, 01:30 AM

its 100% fake...
even tho he put the distro on his memory stick, all the code is still being run on the pc...
just a lot of bull****...
to actually accomplish something like this, you would have to boot linux ON the psp...and that too native, not using emulation like bochs...

and well about putting linux on the psp, heres a good read
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-412323.html

tho this is on the gentoo linux forums, all this applies to the linux kernel itself because if any distro can work on a console, its gentoo

**rhysiboy** · 02-08-2006, 02:01 AM

if u post a downgrader u should try it and if it works post video evidence

**maddocks** · 02-08-2006, 05:29 AM

just looks like a load of crap again, "as usual" lol no video evidence probably some crappy brick trojan :icon_mad:

**motz** · 02-08-2006, 07:00 AM

Probably just another fake downgrader, I don't know why people keep pretending to make downgraders, they'll not get any credit for it.

**Kotsos** · 02-08-2006, 07:31 AM

Just to add my 2 cents....

It appears that these fake downgrader threads in this forum come up because of 2 different reasons.

1) Forum members that want to create a fuss around their name....e.g. trying to be like..." I was the first to introduce the downgrader to this forum"
which is really stupid as there is no credibility which accompanies a post like that.

2) Downgrader hopefuls... Forum members who really want to believe that there is a downgrader so they take advantage of the full homebrew so they would believe anything on the forum. I would reccommend....and this is it really a recommendation that before posting on a downgrader and getting everyone's hopes up that:

1) Check whether the "downgrader" comes with some proof...e.g. a video.
2) Look at the proof and determine whether it is true. Some videos, indeed all of the videos out there for a 2.01 and above downgraders are fake.

Let us try to to limit the "downgrader" posts as much as we can. There are on average 3 NEW locked downgrader threads EVERY day. This is ridiculous. I am sure this thread will be locked too. It is just a matter of time.

**Captain Bodymod** · 02-08-2006, 07:35 AM

This was posted over in the 2.01+ part of the forum and I closed it, to be honest I don't think this works at all, I wish people would stop posting them unless they know for a fact that they work as it creates confusian and people who read the topic titles then think that one exists.

**Fanjita** · 02-08-2006, 08:42 AM

In my opinion they overdid it when they started claiming that it was brick-proof. Considering that the PSP boots from on-board flash, and not from the memory stick, and that when the flash is bricked, the PSP just cannot get past the very first stages of the Initial Program Loader (IPL), then I can't see any way in which Linux on the memory stick can allow you to unbrick a PSP. Even if the flash access is via USB (hmmmm...), then since the PSP can't boot far enough to enter USB mode when bricked, this wouldn't allow you to unbrick it.

It's that sort of over-enthusiastic claim that tends to nobble the credibility of most of the fake downgraders.

**FreePlay** · 02-08-2006, 09:14 AM

so... close thread?

**iball®** · 02-08-2006, 09:14 AM

Someone lock this stupid n00b thread already.

**maddocks** · 02-08-2006, 09:30 AM

lol the title gives you a bit of a hint that is is a load of crap (possible) probably meaning that it don't work, Mods close this thread please

02-07-2006, 05:00 PM	#1
fil Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 19 Trader Feedback: 0	Possible downgrade for ALL versions (full kernal access)! http://psp3d.com/showthread.php?p=59666 check it out, i have more hope for this one because it has never been tried (as far as i know) this perticular way before

02-07-2006, 05:56 PM	#12
makarman Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Candy Land Posts: 1,582 Trader Feedback: 0	Salve,sono nuovo di qui Very Happy io sia per lavoro che per hobby programmo ed adoro la filosofia open source. Invece di programmare tutti per conto nostro per sto downgrade da 2.5 ad 1.5 non possiamo fare un analisi assieme per poi arrivare ad una soluzione efficace? secondo me è una soluzione buona che ogniuno dica la sua così da rendere il compito + veloce (un po come lo sviluppo del kernel di linux insomma) che ne dite?? ----------- Blank, they are new Very Happy I I am here for I work that for hobby I program and I adore the philosophy open source. Instead programming all on behalf ours for I am downgrade from 2.5 to 1.5 we cannot make an analysis together in order then to arrive to one effective solution? according to me it is a good solution that ogniuno its says therefore to render fast task + (a po like the development of the kernel of linux insomma) that you say some? __________________ [CENTER] [url=http://www.indepthhacks.info/forums/index.php?][COLOR=DarkSlateGray][SIZE="3"][b]The Banned Club[/SIZE][/COLOR][/url] - join or die[/b] [url=http://www.blingo.com/friends?ref=3DxJIw6buw61_I3ZGGrrYqoaNz0][COLOR=DarkSlateGray][SIZE="3"][b]Blingo[/SIZE][/COLOR][/url] - win stuff while searching Google[/b] [/CENTER]

02-07-2006, 08:20 PM	#17
FreePlay Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: h0000000rj Posts: 12,858 Trader Feedback: 0	Flash0 is the firmware... and they're lying. As usual. __________________ [qj now fails.]

02-07-2006, 08:22 PM	#18
fyrehart Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Baltimore, MD, USA Posts: 504 Trader Feedback: 0	well you gotta remember that it's not PSP3D saying they might have a downgrader... it's just a post on the forums of PSP3D about another forum that says they might have one... and the person is "supposed" to be a credible programmer ...and no, i dont believe it either, but whatever __________________ 1.52US New => 2.0JP => 1.5US => 2.0US => 1.5US => 2.0US => 1.5US => 2.0US => 2.6US => 1.5US! THANK YOU DARK_ALEX AND THE REST OF THE GANG! My retro headset for cellphone: [URL]http://www.i-hacked.com/images/stories/retrophone/m91sao.jpg[/URL] Infected, Madden 06, Burnout: Legends, Lumines, Kingdom of Paradise, etc etc. Favorite homebrew: NesterJ, PSPGenesis, PSPRadio, and PSPSone

02-07-2006, 08:22 PM	#19
FreePlay Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: h0000000rj Posts: 12,858 Trader Feedback: 0	Oh my God, you must be kidding me. He says he can access the flash chip through USB. He's lying through his teeth. Just because you're running Linux doesn't mean you can accomplish technologically impossible tasks. __________________ [qj now fails.]

02-07-2006, 05:04 PM	#3
NeilR Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,010 Trader Feedback: 0	Everyone on PSP3d think it's BS, why do you think any differently? How is this any different than the dozen fake downgraders we see week after week? Explain... like anyone starting a thread should please. I'll give you a few to elaborate...

02-07-2006, 05:16 PM	#7
SpiderJames Enter Custom Title Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: James Location: Chicago Just Played: MLB 09 the Show Posts: 4,435 Trader Feedback: 0	well a person at the psp3d forum, is italian and he is translating the website for us, the person who hacked his psp, he was able to run linux and got acces to flash0 on his psp,and it is very complicated just go to the forums

02-07-2006, 05:21 PM	#9
Macca QJ Is Cluttered. Join Date: Jun 2005 Real First Name: Daniel Location: New Zealand. Posts: 6 Trader Feedback: 2	this must be fake, even psp3d are saying so

02-07-2006, 05:49 PM	#10
JinxDraco Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 95 Trader Feedback: 0	Hey hey hey! Now read the whole thread. It's really interesting what's going on there. Apparently the guy claims he can read/write flash0. He also says that he's not afraid of bricking because he can always access flash0 and just recopy what's needed. But...isnt the whole deal about writing to flash1 ? Im a n00b in those terms, nevertheless this is an interesting read, and I've bookmarked it.

02-07-2006, 06:23 PM	#14
Daegalus Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 187 Trader Feedback: 0	Hmm, I use linux and I don't see how he did it without writing his own software, but maybe it works, im going to try it later when i find a linux that fits on a 32 mb stick. I will test it and see if it is actually true. There is a 1% chance this does work. If it doesnt, we can wait for PSP-Linux, flash PSP linux on there, take all the PSP 1.5 files, and place them there, then delete linux, viola, downgrade.

02-07-2006, 07:06 PM	#15
Eternal-Cowboy Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,162 Trader Feedback: 0	Wtf Is A Flash!?

02-07-2006, 08:17 PM	#16
cwirsing Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 897 Trader Feedback: 0	If it has full kernal access then why would we need a downgrader.

02-07-2006, 08:30 PM	#20
fyrehart Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Baltimore, MD, USA Posts: 504 Trader Feedback: 0	lol good point... eh, whatever. no big deal really. i suppose the thread should be locked now since nothing productive will come from this __________________ 1.52US New => 2.0JP => 1.5US => 2.0US => 1.5US => 2.0US => 1.5US => 2.0US => 2.6US => 1.5US! THANK YOU DARK_ALEX AND THE REST OF THE GANG! My retro headset for cellphone: [URL]http://www.i-hacked.com/images/stories/retrophone/m91sao.jpg[/URL] Infected, Madden 06, Burnout: Legends, Lumines, Kingdom of Paradise, etc etc. Favorite homebrew: NesterJ, PSPGenesis, PSPRadio, and PSPSone

02-08-2006, 01:30 AM	#21
cyanide Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: meh Posts: 2,799 Trader Feedback: 0	its 100% fake... even tho he put the distro on his memory stick, all the code is still being run on the pc... just a lot of bull****... to actually accomplish something like this, you would have to boot linux ON the psp...and that too native, not using emulation like bochs... and well about putting linux on the psp, heres a good read http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-412323.html tho this is on the gentoo linux forums, all this applies to the linux kernel itself because if any distro can work on a console, its gentoo

02-08-2006, 02:01 AM	#22
rhysiboy Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 114 Trader Feedback: 0	if u post a downgrader u should try it and if it works post video evidence

02-08-2006, 05:29 AM	#23
maddocks Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: wolverhampton Website: http://www.pcwhforum.com ^ Free PC Support forums Posts: 578 Trader Feedback: 0	just looks like a load of crap again, "as usual" lol no video evidence probably some crappy brick trojan :icon_mad: __________________ [CENTER][FONT=Arial][COLOR=black][B][I][URL="http://www.pchwforum.com"]www.pchwforum.com[/URL] - Windows and PC Support Forum[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/CENTER] [CENTER][B][I][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/I][/B] [/CENTER] [CENTER][B][I][FONT=Arial][URL="http://www.techlinux.net"]www.techlinux.net[/URL] - Linux support forum![/FONT][/I][/B][/CENTER]

02-08-2006, 07:00 AM	#24
motz HaXoR Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 115 Trader Feedback: 0	Probably just another fake downgrader, I don't know why people keep pretending to make downgraders, they'll not get any credit for it. __________________ [CENTER][IMG]http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8655/delluserjr3.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4421/amdx215ar9.gif[/IMG] [U][B]3.03 OE-C User[/B][/U] \| [U][B]QJ VIP Firmware History [/B][/U][CENTER]1.50 -> 3.03 OE-B -> 3.03 OE-C -> 3.10 OE-A -> 3.10 OE-A' -> 3.03 0E-C [/CENTER] [/CENTER]

02-08-2006, 07:31 AM	#25
Kotsos Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 257 Trader Feedback: 0	Just to add my 2 cents.... It appears that these fake downgrader threads in this forum come up because of 2 different reasons. 1) Forum members that want to create a fuss around their name....e.g. trying to be like..." I was the first to introduce the downgrader to this forum" which is really stupid as there is no credibility which accompanies a post like that. 2) Downgrader hopefuls... Forum members who really want to believe that there is a downgrader so they take advantage of the full homebrew so they would believe anything on the forum. I would reccommend....and this is it really a recommendation that before posting on a downgrader and getting everyone's hopes up that: 1) Check whether the "downgrader" comes with some proof...e.g. a video. 2) Look at the proof and determine whether it is true. Some videos, indeed all of the videos out there for a 2.01 and above downgraders are fake. Let us try to to limit the "downgrader" posts as much as we can. There are on average 3 NEW locked downgrader threads EVERY day. This is ridiculous. I am sure this thread will be locked too. It is just a matter of time.

02-08-2006, 07:35 AM	#26
Captain Bodymod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 9,126 Trader Feedback: 0	This was posted over in the 2.01+ part of the forum and I closed it, to be honest I don't think this works at all, I wish people would stop posting them unless they know for a fact that they work as it creates confusian and people who read the topic titles then think that one exists. __________________ Interested in Pixel Art? [url]http://pikzil.halfmoon.ws[/url]

02-08-2006, 08:42 AM	#27
Fanjita Muppet Magnet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Edinburgh, UK Posts: 2,388 Trader Feedback: 0	In my opinion they overdid it when they started claiming that it was brick-proof. Considering that the PSP boots from on-board flash, and not from the memory stick, and that when the flash is bricked, the PSP just cannot get past the very first stages of the Initial Program Loader (IPL), then I can't see any way in which Linux on the memory stick can allow you to unbrick a PSP. Even if the flash access is via USB (hmmmm...), then since the PSP can't boot far enough to enter USB mode when bricked, this wouldn't allow you to unbrick it. It's that sort of over-enthusiastic claim that tends to nobble the credibility of most of the fake downgraders. __________________ Using firmware v2.00-v3.50? Open up a whole world of homebrew here The PSP Homebrew Database needs YOU! Your ISP may be illegally wiretapping all your web activity. Stop Phorm Now! Visiting the Edinburgh Festivals? Get practical advice from experts.

02-08-2006, 09:14 AM	#28
FreePlay Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: h0000000rj Posts: 12,858 Trader Feedback: 0	so... close thread? __________________ [qj now fails.]

02-08-2006, 09:14 AM	#29
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02-08-2006, 09:30 AM	#30
maddocks Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: wolverhampton Website: http://www.pcwhforum.com ^ Free PC Support forums Posts: 578 Trader Feedback: 0	lol the title gives you a bit of a hint that is is a load of crap (possible) probably meaning that it don't work, Mods close this thread please __________________ [CENTER][FONT=Arial][COLOR=black][B][I][URL="http://www.pchwforum.com"]www.pchwforum.com[/URL] - Windows and PC Support Forum[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT][/CENTER] [CENTER][B][I][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/I][/B] [/CENTER] [CENTER][B][I][FONT=Arial][URL="http://www.techlinux.net"]www.techlinux.net[/URL] - Linux support forum![/FONT][/I][/B][/CENTER]

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