333MHz issue put to bed.

[inky]

All those who are to scared to run thier homebrew at 333MHz should look at this.
http://www.us.playstation.com/consoles.aspx?id=4
it's the official technical specs on sony's official site
notice the line
CPU: PSP CPU (System clock frequency 1 - 333MHz)
this is also printed on your psp's box.
stop being wimps and play your emulators at 333MHz

If you want to lose about 10fps because sony pulled a fast one on you and underclocked your hardware so be it. I'm just tired of seeing all the posts from people who refuse to believe that 333MHz is safe.

[F34R]

Originally Posted by inky

All those who are to scared to run thier homebrew at 333MHz should look at this.
http://www.us.playstation.com/consoles.aspx?id=4
it's the official technical specs on sony's official site
notice the line
CPU: PSP CPU (System clock frequency 1 - 333MHz)
this is also printed on your psp's box.
stop being wimps and play your emulators at 333MHz

If you want to lose about 10fps because sony pulled a fast one on you and underclocked your hardware so be it. I'm just tired of seeing all the posts from people who refuse to believe that 333MHz is safe.

Likewise, I am sure a lot of people are tired of seeing people post that 333mhz is safe. Do a search and see how many posts are already on these boards about this SAME topic.

[At∀RaҖiA]

my brain runs on 333mhz i guess thats why im so hot headed

[inky]

@ F34R: I take it your one of the scaredy cats eh?

anyways
the thing is no one has offered proof either way. just alot of "I heard.." and "A friend told me..." it's in the damn official tech specs for crissake.

[AK47Jazz]

Originally Posted by savethekids

my brain runs on 333mhz i guess thats why im so hot headed

:clap: true dat

[Plazmo]

The specs do not state whether or not it is safe, the processor may be underclocked to keep the temperature down, b/c the PSP may not have enough cooling power to keep the temperature down to a safe level while its running at 333 mhz.
Try using you computer with no fan, or no heatsinks then run it at its clockspeed and watch the temperature rise to possibly dangerous levels as you use it.

I run my PSP at 333 mhz when its needed but only 30 min at a time mainly b/c I get bored by then but also b/c you notice that the PSP feels hotter if you play longer, I dont want to heat my PSP's cpu too much since that shortens its life.

[F34R]

Originally Posted by inky

@ F34R: I take it your one of the scaredy cats eh?

anyways
the thing is no one has offered proof either way. just alot of "I heard.." and "A friend told me..." it's in the damn official tech specs for crissake.

No, nothing about the PSP scares me, but thanks for your concern. So, in this post I quoted, you admit there isnt proof either way. So you are saying that there isnt any proof that 333mhz is safe, right ?

Dont get me wrong here, I agree with you. This is a discussion, and I am open minded. I can step back from my own opinion and see where others that might be "scared" are coming from. You original post is a bit bold, since you claim to put this thing to bed, but then admit you have no proof either way.

[F34R]

Originally Posted by Plazmo

The specs do not state whether or not it is safe, the processor may be underclocked to keep the temperature down, b/c the PSP may not have enough cooling power to keep the temperature down to a safe level while its running at 333 mhz.
Try using you computer with no fan, or no heatsinks then run it at its clockspeed and watch the temperature rise to possibly dangerous levels as you use it.

I run my PSP at 333 mhz when its needed but only 30 min at a time mainly b/c I get bored by then but also b/c you notice that the PSP feels hotter if you play longer, I dont want to heat my PSP's cpu too much since that shortens its life.

The PSP clock is used a 222mhz to conserve batter life, not to prevent over-heating. Some PC's, albeit slow ones, only use a heatsink to keep the cpu cool enough to run. I have used my PSP with the snes emu at 333mhz for well over 3 hours at a time, and not once have I noticed that my PSP had increased in temperature.

Cooling isnt a factor with the PSP. It was designed to run at any speed between 1mhz and 333mhz.

[inky]

Originally Posted by F34R

No, nothing about the PSP scares me, but thanks for your concern. So, in this post I quoted, you admit there isnt proof either way. So you are saying that there isnt any proof that 333mhz is safe, right ?

Dont get me wrong here, I agree with you. This is a discussion, and I am open minded. I can step back from my own opinion and see where others that might be "scared" are coming from. You original post is a bit bold, since you claim to put this thing to bed, but then admit you have no proof either way.

no you missread my post. my proof is the official tech specs released by sony on thier official site. I said no one up till now has provided proof either way. just he said she said. for me at least the official specs hold up that 333 is safe.

[At∀RaҖiA]

Originally Posted by Plazmo

Try using you computer with no fan, or no heatsinks then run it at its clockspeed.

i did that and blew my f@#king cpu out. It was so cool smoke came out the whole thing smelled like firecrackers and my mom came in said what the f@#k did you do

[Cool Matty]

Originally Posted by inky

@ F34R: I take it your one of the scaredy cats eh?

anyways
the thing is no one has offered proof either way. just alot of "I heard.." and "A friend told me..." it's in the damn official tech specs for crissake.

Excuse me?

http://www.pspupdates.com/forum/show...ght=333mhz+end

I did those tests SPECIFICALLY to end these threads. Read the results, and realize the truth. The PSP was underclocked solely for battery life.

As for those who mentioned that the PC can't run without a heatsink:

Keep in mind that the CPUs also aren't DESIGNED to run without a heatsink. The PSP is.

[inky]

Originally Posted by Cool Matty

Excuse me?

ok your excused.
between your tests and the tech specs there should be no doubt.

[F34R]

There it is matty lol.. I couldnt find it to save my life...I misspelled your name in the search lol...

[muki]

Sigh, even if the CPU overheats at the highest clockspeed (unlikely) it isn't going to susplode your PSP. Worst case scenario, you will start experiencing errors in games and homebrew untill you restart it, or it might even freeze. But even all that is unlikely.

Game developpers were reccomended to optimize for it to run at 222 speed, because it would guarantee so-and-so more hours of battery life, which is a great selling point for both the PSP, AND the game.

And for the record, I work at a major game developpement company.

[wantahackedv15now]

Originally Posted by muki

And for the record, I work at a major game developpement company.

where?

[Plazmo]

Originally Posted by F34R

The PSP clock is used a 222mhz to conserve batter life, not to prevent over-heating. Some PC's, albeit slow ones, only use a heatsink to keep the cpu cool enough to run. I have used my PSP with the snes emu at 333mhz for well over 3 hours at a time, and not once have I noticed that my PSP had increased in temperature.

Cooling isnt a factor with the PSP. It was designed to run at any speed between 1mhz and 333mhz.

I know it was to conserve battery life but what if they had a second reason? :shifty:

atm, I dont see myself using the PSP at 333 mhz not because I am afraid (I do have a tiny bit of doubt b/c I tend to worry no matter what), but because I have only been using the homebrew apps available on the PSP to read books.
I thought the idea of using emulators on your PSP would be awesome but I always thought that the idea of having my own ebook reader that can store my whole collection on a single memory memory stick even better.
Although, once the authors of the emulators have found a way to run emulators at full speed without having to tinker with the settings, I would like to play Super Mario World on my PSP too. I hope a media center with the features of XBMC can be created someday too!

[inky]

ahh well all you worry-worts can continue to have fun playing at 20 fps with the frameskip at like 10 :P

[muki]

Originally Posted by wantahackedv15now

where?

And possibly give my workplace a bad rep? I think not!
chances are almost nil if I did say, but still..

[Mihos]

I haven't ran an emulator under 333 since it bacame an option. No problems at all. Battery life seems about the same to me also, but I usually use headphones or turn the sound off when I play.

I have had any side effects at all other than the headaches of squinting trying to read Fantasy Star 3 text.

Get the tin foil off your head and run it full speed. Its much better.

Mihos

[haha48]

Originally Posted by Plazmo

The specs do not state whether or not it is safe, the processor may be underclocked to keep the temperature down, b/c the PSP may not have enough cooling power to keep the temperature down to a safe level while its running at 333 mhz.
Try using you computer with no fan, or no heatsinks then run it at its clockspeed and watch the temperature rise to possibly dangerous levels as you use it.

I run my PSP at 333 mhz when its needed but only 30 min at a time mainly b/c I get bored by then but also b/c you notice that the PSP feels hotter if you play longer, I dont want to heat my PSP's cpu too much since that shortens its life.

well i played for 6 hours becasue i hooked the psps to the wall with the charger and ran it at 333 it got very hot and if you open the udm slot it stinks so bad the way to get around the heat problem is to leave the udm slot open that way it lets the heat escape and it doesnt stink.. :dance:

[inky]

my psp hasn't gotten hot or started to stink. and I always run at 333 all night at work.

[B-pops]

I ran my psp at 333mhz and it killed my whole family. don't do it!

[inky]

Originally Posted by B-pops

I ran my psp at 333mhz and it killed my whole family. don't do it!

that could be incentive TO do it! lol

[tempestroad]

Well if you have your PSP plugged into the A/C then it doesnt matter how much battery it eats then right?

[inky]

I haven't noticed it eating much more battery either. but as a bonus when it's plugged in you can use the forth brightness setting too.

[TheMysteriousThug]

333mhz has been rumored to blow into flames heck some warnings say it happens. but most people do it so it is nothing for worry.

[loosus]

Hate to sound rude, but if you honestly think that running at 333 MHz is -- in any way, shape, or form -- unsafe for the PSP, or if you even think there's even the remote chance that it'll cause your PSP to raise to an abnormal temperature, then you're a grade-A idiot.

Sure, if you overclocked your PSP to 400 MHz, you might have a point. But 333 MHz is where it's SUPPOSED to be at. That's not overclocking the damn thing. Sony only restricted the clock rate because of battery-life issues. Sony is going to unlock the feature for developers eventually just like individual hacker types have already done. You'd convince me sooner that underclocking it somehow damages it than running it at the speed at which it was rated.

There are legitimate reasons for not raising the bar to 333 MHz, such as wanting to conserve battery life. But doing it for "safety purposes" is not a valid reason. You're just mildly retarded if you do it for that purpose. Sony shouldn't have to state in big,red letters on its Web site, "IT'S SAFE FOR THE PSP TO RUN AT 333 MHZ!"

By the way, does anyone know if the PSP can be run at lower than 222 MHz? Once it becomes optimized as humanly possible, I really don't think the NES emulator will require 222 MHz to run games at 60 frames per second.

[JZT]

Sony shouldn't have to put on its website, "IT'S SAFE FOR THE PSP TO RUN AT 333 MHZ!"

By the way, does anyone know if the PSP can be run at lower than 222 MHz? Once it becomes optimized as humanly possible, I really don't think the NES emulator will require 222 MHz to run games at 60 frames per second.

Well, Sony doesn't want any homebrew futzing with their clockspeed, I think

And from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm no coder), it's a very simple bit of code to add the clocking ability. The only reason you can't overclock / underclock is because all the current homebrew authors have locked in limits.

[madroxdave]

I feel like such a idiot around you people, but i have to ask this question. How do i get my PSP to run at 333mhz in the 1st place? It would be of great assistance and i truley dont know how!

[muki]

Originally Posted by madroxdave

I feel like such a idiot around you people, but i have to ask this question. How do i get my PSP to run at 333mhz in the 1st place? It would be of great assistance and i truley dont know how!

Emulators who support it (I'd say most of them) will have the option i ntheir respective options screens.

Usually 222MHz, 266MHz, and 333MHz