Why...

[Espresso]

Are the crappy Starcraft "alpha" and Age of Empires games getting on the front page? They're both the exact same thing but with different images. They don't do anything but move an image across the screen.

[Moose]

Because it shows that there is progress in making more advanced h/b games on the PSP!!

[Espresso]

That isn't progress. That's called moving an image across the screen.

[XperienZe]

It is a work in progress, look at N64 Emu, that WIP too, it takes time to get a good product!

Wait and see, or bleed :P

[mnky]

Is an early version dumbass.
Its to show its being worked on.

[Hooger]

have we heard any updates on the starcraft one.?

[thunder_balls]

I believe the people working on Starcraft said they didn't even want people to show these "POCs". They just gave it to a forum moderator at psp3d.com to show that they have decided to work on it, and he leaked it for some reason. Therefore they are not releasing anymore. Maybe my post is completely wrong. Maybe PSPStarcraft is bogus, and maybe it's not. The same goes for AOE on PSP. We'll just have to wait a few months and see.

[Espresso]

Originally Posted by mnky

Is an early version dumbass.
Its to show its being worked on.

It's not a ****ing version at all. Hey guys, look, I'm making a FPS for the PSP. All you see right now is a picture of a gun, but that's a POC that there will be guns in it! If you push the x button you hear a gun shot, which WILL BE IN THE GAME!!!

That's not **** and you know it. At least when the N64 emulator was in its extremely early stages, it was actually doing something instead of just making an image follow the pointer around.

[soccerPMN]

Is the PSPStarcraft writer the same author of the Age Of Empires II clone?

[legacyxero]

Its called an alpha for a reason.

PROOF OF CONCEPT BUDDY.

[Espresso]

Originally Posted by legacyxero

Its called an alpha for a reason.

PROOF OF CONCEPT BUDDY.

It's wrongly called alpha, then.

[soccerPMN]

So is it the same coder for both StarCraft and AoE II clones?

[thunder_balls]

I don't think so. He said somewhere to look at the codes and compare them, if you want to see difference.

[teeth_03]

any of you winers programmers? can any of you even make a lua script that does what the current release of Starcraftpsp does?

if you happen to answer no to both of those question-

STFU n00bs!

posts like yours have the possibility of being read by the devs and them getting pissed and not wanted to complete the game

..if only Iball were mod...

[Ibanez32]

I hear that.

[Deekman]

Originally Posted by Espresso

It's not a ****ing version at all. Hey guys, look, I'm making a FPS for the PSP. All you see right now is a picture of a gun, but that's a POC that there will be guns in it! If you push the x button you hear a gun shot, which WILL BE IN THE GAME!!!

That's not **** and you know it. At least when the N64 emulator was in its extremely early stages, it was actually doing something instead of just making an image follow the pointer around.

You sir, win.

[Espresso]

Originally Posted by teeth_03

posts like yours have the possibility of being read by the devs and them getting pissed and not wanted to complete the game

..if only Iball were mod...

They will never complete that. It's not a game, it's an image following the pointer, that's it. That's all the 'game' source tells it to do. It loads a background image, loads the 'unit' and the mouse, then tells the unit to follow the mouse around. That's it! That's starcraft alpha for you.

You sir, win.

Thank ya, kind sir.

[teeth_03]

why the hell would they put code in the game that they were not going to finish before release?

all you people do is b!tch b!tch and b!tch some more,its never enough for you spolied little dumbasses, why do you just NOT PLAY THE GAME and pretend it dosent exist if you dont like it

people work hard on these homebrew, some stuff might not be good as others, but work goes into them and all you people do it b!tch because it should be so much better

well heres a thought

make the damn game yourself if you can do better

[SeikenZ]

Originally Posted by teeth_03

why the hell would they put code in the game that they were not going to finish before release?

all you people do is b!tch b!tch and b!tch some more,its never enough for you spolied little dumbasses, why do you just NOT PLAY THE GAME and pretend it dosent exist if you dont like it

people work hard on these homebrew, some stuff might not be good as others, but work goes into them and all you people do it b!tch because it should be so much better

well heres a thought

make the damn game yourself if you can do better

I agree. Dont wine about not meeting your ''high'' expectations of an early Alpha release of a ''work-in-progress'' game.

[mnky]

Originally Posted by Espresso

It's not a ****ing version at all. Hey guys, look, I'm making a FPS for the PSP. All you see right now is a picture of a gun, but that's a POC that there will be guns in it! If you push the x button you hear a gun shot, which WILL BE IN THE GAME!!!

That's not **** and you know it. At least when the N64 emulator was in its extremely early stages, it was actually doing something instead of just making an image follow the pointer around.

The are being worked on and hopefully will be released, that is the starting code therfor it is an alpha.

[Espresso]

Alright, whatever. Keep supporting something that will never be .

Oh, by the way, I'm drawing a square. Here's a proof of concept:

I know, I know, it looks like a circle, but it has black lines and so does a square, and I'll be coding up the ai and turn code later. But it's only an ALPHA SO DON'T JUDGE IT.

[teeth_03]

you didn't draw a circle

you drew the inside of your skull because appearently you lack a brain

this is a PSP homebrew forum

you dont say bad **** about homebrew just to ***** about it

you can use constructive critisism, but theres nothing constructive about what your saying

[SeikenZ]

You're the one making a discussion out of this. When I see some article about Age of Empires or Starcraft being made for psp, I just think its cool someone is working on these games. I dont make a whole problem about the fact there isnt much to do in these Alpha releases, on second thought I dont really care. If a fully functioning version is coming out sooner or later, props to the guys who made it. If the project is cancelled, 2 bad, Maybe someone else will make it in the future, I'm not going to wine about it.

And are you so convinced that things like Age of Empires or Starcraft can never be made on psp? They also said homebrew couldnt be possible on 2.00 at the start, look what the homebrew dev's achieved now. You should look at the bigger picture, never say never. And thats my final contribution to this thread.

[Espresso]

Originally Posted by SeikenZ

You're the one making a discussion out of this. When I see some article about Age of Empires or Starcraft being made for psp, I just think its cool someone is working on these games. I dont make a whole problem about the fact there isnt much to do in these Alpha releases, on second thought I dont really care. If a fully functioning version is coming out sooner or later, props to the guys who made it. If the project is cancelled, 2 bad, Maybe someone else will make it in the future, I'm not going to wine about it.

And are you so convinced that things like Age of Empires or Starcraft can never be made on psp? They also said homebrew couldnt be possible on 2.00 at the start, look what the homebrew dev's achieved now.

I'm not saying they can't be made on the PSP, I'm saying that what those two people have made aren't anything except just attention getters for themselves. They won't evolve to anything similar to Starcraft.

you can use constructive critisism, but theres nothing constructive about what your saying

There's nothing constructive TO SAY ABOUT IT.

[teeth_03]

then dont say anything at all

[Espresso]

Originally Posted by teeth_03

then dont say anything at all

How about you just stop reading my threads if you don't want to see the truth about it. Just put me on ignore, it's extremely easy to do. It's right in the User CP =).

[mnky]

Originally Posted by Espresso

How about you just stop reading my threads if you don't want to see the truth about it. Just put me on ignore, it's extremely easy to do. It's right in the User CP =).

but then well miss all the argument that it isnt an alpha.

[kozine]

Espresso, if you ever make a game, you will release the amount of time and hard work which goes into them. People release the pictures and the EARLY APLHA VERSION OF A WORK IN PROGRESS game to show that they are working on it. Now will you just **** the **** up and someone lock this thread NOW!! Im tired of seeing all these stupid little n00bs who know absulutley nouthing about programming and then *****ing about the games Devs make. Games can take days to weeks to months to make. LOCK THIS THREAD NOW!

Originally Posted by kozine

Espresso, if you ever make a game, you will release the amount of time and hard work which goes into them. People release the pictures and the EARLY APLHA VERSION OF A WORK IN PROGRESS game to show that they are working on it. Now will you just **** the **** up and someone lock this thread NOW!! Im tired of seeing all these stupid little n00bs who know absulutley nouthing about programming and then *****ing about the games Devs make. Games can take days to weeks to months to make. LOCK THIS THREAD NOW!

Well said.

[Espresso]

Originally Posted by < 10 mb memory + no blitting = you fail it

I wouldn't do either SC or AoE, imo, it requires too much blitting in lua. SC and AoE require ALOT of sprites on the screen don't they? Unless you cap population to like 16 your screwed.

http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.p...34081f1ed63974

I set up a 12x12 grid of iso tiles with height (fft style) (dimensions 38x34) that were constantly being blitted, and I ended up getting < 20 fps. Your boned unless you prerender everything, and I'm pretty sure this won't help you.

http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.p...34081f1ed63974

Concept Over?

poor poor lua =/ I wanted to try to do somethin with sockets in lua, like an mmo or something.

This is gonna end up in the same dilema as the Starcraft port. I mean, it's written in LUA. You can't do anything beyond scripting in LUA. There's no possibility of writing an AI for this and it's going to crawl like the PSPs browser does in the first place. If you really wanted to do this, you'd take the time to write this in C. Then there's once again the legal issue, and take it from me, Microsoft is going to be a lot more eager to kill this project than Blizzard would with the Starcraft project. Why don't people some up with something original for once when they want to make a homebrew strategy game instead of porting over stuff that's got copyrights on it untill 2050 or later. Oh yeah, I forgot. Originality died about 10 years ago and everyone's too lazy to even try to revive it.

this is just a rip of of the so called "proof of concept starcraft" all the dudes done is swapped images. Starcraft wasnt proof of concept, nor is this. All this is, is an image on top of another image moving around which is NO WHERE near what starcraft or AOE are.

In a word its crap. Pointless crap, hell, i could open up the starcraft folder right now, swap over the background map for one of warcraft, swap the piuc of the svc for on of an orc and hey presto - ive just made a proof of concept warcraft port.

Absolute *****e.

I cant believe PSP Updates is actually entertaining this *****, this belongs on PSP3D.

Seems almost all of the smart people post in the comments section instead of here. It is impossible to make a 'clone' of starcraft and/or AOE on lua.