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**mjohn16** · 07-11-2005, 02:28 PM

When are we gonna start seeing new system emulators
the only 1's that keep being made right now are the SNES,i havent seen any sega in a while but thats more less perfect,the gameboy is perfect,gba i guess was just givin up on and nintendo is perfect.
When are we gonna start seeing the 1st releases of the N64 emulator or the Sega Saturn Emulator or PSX Emulator,Sega 32Xemulator,and the Sega CD Emulator? Does anyone know when they might start development on the emulators?

**FrozenIpaq** · 07-11-2005, 02:30 PM

We have no clue, there are not that many systems left to emulate that are "main stream".

**crowba** · 07-11-2005, 02:32 PM

we are no oracle

**spectacular** · 07-11-2005, 02:47 PM

well sega cd,32x are addons to the original sega system so those additions will most likely be updated to the existing emulator in the future. Right now all i could care for is a sega genesis emu that gets updated as much as y's existing snes emu(which is awesome that hes going out of his way to create an update almost every other day) anything else will happen gradually providing the psp can handle them(cps 1 and 2 arcade machines etc.) But most importantly you have to be patient...and i wouldnt count on a sega saturn emu ever. I dont even think theres a pc emu out for it.

KabutoHunter · 07-11-2005, 03:00 PM

I wouldn't say the GBA has been given up on. It's only been two or three weeks since the first release. Patience, man.

Give the Game Gear (SMS) a try. It's pretty much running at 100%. There are some decent games on there. Back in the day, if you had GameGear+Mortal Kombat you were the coolest kid in school

zerreth · 07-11-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohn16

When are we gonna start seeing the 1st releases of the N64 emulator or the Sega Saturn Emulator or PSX Emulator,Sega 32Xemulator,and the Sega CD Emulator? Does anyone know when they might start development on the emulators?

I doubt you will ever see a N64 or Sega Saturn emulators on the PSP.
They both would run too poorly to be useful.

fyrwurxx · 07-11-2005, 03:14 PM

I think 3D (N64, PSX, etc) emulation isn't impossible and will commence when homebrew PSP devs figure out how to take advantage of the PSP's 3D rendering hardware. After all, the PSP's graphics engine is more than powerful enough to run N64-quality games, as readily evident from the current PSP games. It will probably take a lot of time, though...maybe even years, but if the scene has taught me anything in the last few months, it's where there's a will, there's a way. And there most definitely is a will.

Until then, 2D emulation is rushing forward. Speed for NES, SNES and Genesis emulation is rapidly increasing so that should fill the void until more emulators surface. My prediction is the next great strides in emulation will be in the form of GBA...but we'll see.

**Merovingian** · 07-11-2005, 03:21 PM

Bring on the 3D0 and Jaguar lol....

I want the classics...!

Some other ones....

hummmm....

Laser Disk EMU....I want my portable Dragon's Lair and Space Ace...

How about a Killer Instinct 1 & 2 EMU? (maybe way way later lol)

unbroken · 07-11-2005, 03:45 PM

I would die for a sega cd emulator right now, the thoughts of running snatcher or luner on psp, make me speechless.

**old gil** · 07-11-2005, 03:55 PM

i personally dont think we'll ever get N64 emu's. because N64 emulation runs Decent on my system (2.2ghz 512 Mb ram Geforce 4 Ti 4400 128 mb ram) alot of games dont run very well at all... now imagine how it will run on a PSP

casablanca · 07-11-2005, 04:11 PM

my dream is if we could get a perfectly working ported MAME version (hope yoyofr reads this!!) lol

unbroken · 07-11-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by old gil

i personally dont think we'll ever get N64 emu's. because N64 emulation runs Decent on my system (2.2ghz 512 Mb ram Geforce 4 Ti 4400 128 mb ram) alot of games dont run very well at all... now imagine how it will run on a PSP

n64 works almost perfect on xbox with only a version 1.0 emulator.

**ulyanov77** · 07-11-2005, 05:16 PM

im no developer but from what I've picked up here and there that it will be easier to make smoothly running 3d games that being the only hurdle of the PSP's 3d rendering, after that (and the people here have done more amazing feats) its a downhill run with some of them working even better than late generation 2d? this is just making connections of what other programmers have said

**Giga Phil** · 07-11-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohn16

When are we gonna start seeing new system emulators
the only 1's that keep being made right now are the SNES,i havent seen any sega in a while but thats more less perfect,the gameboy is perfect,gba i guess was just givin up on and nintendo is perfect.
When are we gonna start seeing the 1st releases of the N64 emulator or the Sega Saturn Emulator or PSX Emulator,Sega 32Xemulator,and the Sega CD Emulator? Does anyone know when they might start development on the emulators?

You most likely aren't ever going to see Sega Saturn, Mega CD or 32X emulators. All of them are very difficult to emulate, even on PC.

**mjohn16** · 07-11-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Giga Phil

You most likely aren't ever going to see Sega Saturn, Mega CD or 32X emulators. All of them are very difficult to emulate, even on PC.

Well almsot every sega emulator available for pc has 32x and sega cs built in so it must not be as hard as your saying for the pc.Im not a coder so i dont know how hard it is or whatever but i know the sega emulators on pc like
Gens, Fusion,run perfect to my opinion and for saturn , Saturne,runs perfectly so i dont see what the problem is i mainly want a saturn emulator because it would start the whole 3D emulation scene on the psp and there are quiet a few games on saturn i thought were really kool like knights into dreams,cant think of the name but 1 game had a clown and a girl not sure of the name i think it was on n-gage,Sonic R,and mortal kombat trioligy and there more.

**unseen wombat** · 07-12-2005, 06:47 AM

the only ones i care about are mame and psx. all the other ones can be there or not. if i had those two working and working well, i'd be set.

**crowba** · 07-12-2005, 06:51 AM

all of you, head over to ps2dev.org, get the latest pspsdk and start something yourself..

If you want a N64 EMU.. DO IT !

**old gil** · 07-12-2005, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by unbroken

n64 works almost perfect on xbox with only a version 1.0 emulator.

there is a diffrence beetween X-box and PSP :-p (and btw thats pretty cool you gotta N64 emu on your X-box, didnt know you could do that.. i never had a X-box so i wasnt interested in the homebrew scene)

**Kold Kalamity** · 07-12-2005, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by old gil

there is a diffrence beetween X-box and PSP :-p (and btw thats pretty cool you gotta N64 emu on your X-box, didnt know you could do that.. i never had a X-box so i wasnt interested in the homebrew scene)

Perfect Dark and Goldeneye sounds would sound sweet on an XBOX.

**brain_stew** · 07-12-2005, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mjohn16

Well almsot every sega emulator available for pc has 32x and sega cs built in so it must not be as hard as your saying for the pc.Im not a coder so i dont know how hard it is or whatever but i know the sega emulators on pc like
Gens, Fusion,run perfect to my opinion and for saturn , Saturne,runs perfectly so i dont see what the problem is i mainly want a saturn emulator because it would start the whole 3D emulation scene on the psp and there are quiet a few games on saturn i thought were really kool like knights into dreams,cant think of the name but 1 game had a clown and a girl not sure of the name i think it was on n-gage,Sonic R,and mortal kombat trioligy and there more.

If only it were that simple. The Saturn and 32X use dual processors which make them extremely difficult to emulate, they won't happen and if they do it will be crappy emulation. Even though the PSX produced a lot better 3D than the Saturn, it would be much simpler to emulate.

**unseen wombat** · 07-12-2005, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by brain_stew

If only it were that simple. The Saturn and 32X use dual processors which make them extremely difficult to emulate, they won't happen and if they do it will be crappy emulation. Even though the PSX produced a lot better 3D than the Saturn, it would be much simpler to emulate.

good, good! *holds breath for a psx emulator*

**corneliousjd** · 07-12-2005, 08:42 AM

every body wants wants wants... but nobody knows how to code.

start studying people :whistle:

i'm at least making an attempt at trying thing on my end.

PS - the GPU of the PSP needs to be figured out before even Snes can run at full speeds...

**mjohn16** · 07-12-2005, 08:42 AM

a psx emulator would be awesome imagine all the games yo be played
Crash Bandicoot 1,2,3
Mortal Kombat trilogy
Mortal Kombat 4
Mortal Kombat Sub-Zero Mythologies
Spyro 1,2,3
Dragonball Z Legends
Dragonball Z Ultimate Battle 22
Dragon Ball GT Final Bout
the list goes on and on
right now what homebrew should mainly function on that would be cool a 2 player way of playing emulators on psp from a wifi connection to link to someone elses psp and play multiplayer would be awesome when I have all these games on my psp for sega and supernintendo and nintendo but it seems i dont have as much fun with it as i use to i think the reason is the lack of the 2 player i use to have tons of fun playing mortal kombat 2 and ultimate 3 with friends.

**unseen wombat** · 07-12-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mjohn16

right now what homebrew should mainly function on that would be cool a 2 player way of playing emulators on psp from a wifi connection to link to someone elses psp and play multiplayer would be awesome when I have all these games on my psp for sega and supernintendo and nintendo but it seems i dont have as much fun with it as i use to i think the reason is the lack of the 2 player i use to have tons of fun playing mortal kombat 2 and ultimate 3 with friends.

dude...

**Arwin** · 07-13-2005, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by unseen wombat

dude...

I'm personally rooting for a PSP version of STEEM, the Atari ST emulator. Other than that, until the GPU has been figured out, it doesn't really matter to me. The SNES emu kicks ***.

But if the GPU is figured out completely, then I think that one will be able to run faster and with less CPU speed.

**AnonymousTipster** · 07-13-2005, 02:55 AM

With regards to the N64 emu, once the GPU is unlocked, I think that it will be possible to get it running at almost full speed, because both the PSP and the N64 run on MIPS processors. This means that if the emu could be programmed to take advantage of the similarities, we could see a full speed N64 emu by next christmas.

**muki** · 07-13-2005, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AnonymousTipster

we could see a full speed N64 emu by next christmas.

Similar chip architecture or not, one has to remember that the emulator's CPU has to be MANY times more powerful than the emulated CPU. And I'm not talking only four times more MHz as it's the case here. I'm talking 8-10 times for speed, at least double the bits, four times the bandwidth, etc...

I think we'll see an N64 emulator sometime, but I'd be surprised if it ran at full speed on more than one game.

**Tayguy18** · 07-13-2005, 08:44 AM

I can't wait to be able to play Ocerina of time, goldeneye, pefect dark and conker's bad fur day on my PsP. I know it may not happen for a while, but since I can't code I just got to be patient, and I can't complain.

**brain_stew** · 07-13-2005, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by unseen wombat

good, good! *holds breath for a psx emulator*

Bad idea, you could be doing this for years and will most probably die. Hahaha

**unseen wombat** · 07-13-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by brain_stew

Bad idea, you could be doing this for years and will most probably die. Hahaha

does anyone know if someone is even working on a psx emulator?

there are about 150 versions of snes and sega emu's out there, but i haven't heard a peep about the one i really want.

07-11-2005, 02:28 PM	#1
mjohn16 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 175 Trader Feedback: 0	when are we gonna start seeing new system emulators When are we gonna start seeing new system emulators the only 1's that keep being made right now are the SNES,i havent seen any sega in a while but thats more less perfect,the gameboy is perfect,gba i guess was just givin up on and nintendo is perfect. When are we gonna start seeing the 1st releases of the N64 emulator or the Sega Saturn Emulator or PSX Emulator,Sega 32Xemulator,and the Sega CD Emulator? Does anyone know when they might start development on the emulators?

07-11-2005, 02:32 PM	#3
crowba Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 510 Trader Feedback: 0	we are no oracle __________________ [CENTER]visit the [COLOR=Red]fastest [/COLOR] [SIZE=5]GERMAN [/SIZE] psp-news site [url]http://www.portable-news.de/[/url][/CENTER]

07-12-2005, 06:51 AM	#17
crowba Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 510 Trader Feedback: 0	all of you, head over to ps2dev.org, get the latest pspsdk and start something yourself.. If you want a N64 EMU.. DO IT ! __________________ [CENTER]visit the [COLOR=Red]fastest [/COLOR] [SIZE=5]GERMAN [/SIZE] psp-news site [url]http://www.portable-news.de/[/url][/CENTER]

07-13-2005, 02:55 AM	#26
AnonymousTipster Developer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Under a Large rock called Fred Posts: 693 Trader Feedback: 0	With regards to the N64 emu, once the GPU is unlocked, I think that it will be possible to get it running at almost full speed, because both the PSP and the N64 run on MIPS processors. This means that if the emu could be programmed to take advantage of the similarities, we could see a full speed N64 emu by next christmas. __________________ Developer of Tipster Unzip/Unrar ThrottleX RoboTORN3D ODEPsp Now, with the power of my PSP, I will finally RULE THE WORLD. Muhahahah.

07-11-2005, 02:30 PM	#2
FrozenIpaq Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,986 Trader Feedback: 0	We have no clue, there are not that many systems left to emulate that are "main stream".

07-11-2005, 02:47 PM	#4
spectacular Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 271 Trader Feedback: 0	well sega cd,32x are addons to the original sega system so those additions will most likely be updated to the existing emulator in the future. Right now all i could care for is a sega genesis emu that gets updated as much as y's existing snes emu(which is awesome that hes going out of his way to create an update almost every other day) anything else will happen gradually providing the psp can handle them(cps 1 and 2 arcade machines etc.) But most importantly you have to be patient...and i wouldnt count on a sega saturn emu ever. I dont even think theres a pc emu out for it.

07-11-2005, 03:00 PM	#5
KabutoHunter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mountlake Terrace, WA Posts: 35 Trader Feedback: 0	I wouldn't say the GBA has been given up on. It's only been two or three weeks since the first release. Patience, man. Give the Game Gear (SMS) a try. It's pretty much running at 100%. There are some decent games on there. Back in the day, if you had GameGear+Mortal Kombat you were the coolest kid in school

07-11-2005, 03:14 PM	#7
fyrwurxx Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 14 Trader Feedback: 0	I think 3D (N64, PSX, etc) emulation isn't impossible and will commence when homebrew PSP devs figure out how to take advantage of the PSP's 3D rendering hardware. After all, the PSP's graphics engine is more than powerful enough to run N64-quality games, as readily evident from the current PSP games. It will probably take a lot of time, though...maybe even years, but if the scene has taught me anything in the last few months, it's where there's a will, there's a way. And there most definitely is a will. Until then, 2D emulation is rushing forward. Speed for NES, SNES and Genesis emulation is rapidly increasing so that should fill the void until more emulators surface. My prediction is the next great strides in emulation will be in the form of GBA...but we'll see.

07-11-2005, 03:21 PM	#8
Merovingian Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 205 Trader Feedback: 0	Bring on the 3D0 and Jaguar lol.... I want the classics...! Some other ones.... hummmm.... Laser Disk EMU....I want my portable Dragon's Lair and Space Ace... How about a Killer Instinct 1 & 2 EMU? (maybe way way later lol)

07-11-2005, 03:45 PM	#9
unbroken Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 14 Trader Feedback: 0	I would die for a sega cd emulator right now, the thoughts of running snatcher or luner on psp, make me speechless.

07-11-2005, 03:55 PM	#10
old gil Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 61 Trader Feedback: 0	i personally dont think we'll ever get N64 emu's. because N64 emulation runs Decent on my system (2.2ghz 512 Mb ram Geforce 4 Ti 4400 128 mb ram) alot of games dont run very well at all... now imagine how it will run on a PSP

07-11-2005, 04:11 PM	#11
casablanca Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 32 Trader Feedback: 0	my dream is if we could get a perfectly working ported MAME version (hope yoyofr reads this!!) lol

07-11-2005, 05:16 PM	#13
ulyanov77 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 55 Trader Feedback: 0	im no developer but from what I've picked up here and there that it will be easier to make smoothly running 3d games that being the only hurdle of the PSP's 3d rendering, after that (and the people here have done more amazing feats) its a downhill run with some of them working even better than late generation 2d? this is just making connections of what other programmers have said

07-12-2005, 06:47 AM	#16
unseen wombat Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 55 Trader Feedback: 0	the only ones i care about are mame and psx. all the other ones can be there or not. if i had those two working and working well, i'd be set.

07-12-2005, 08:42 AM	#22
corneliousjd Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 515 Trader Feedback: 0	every body wants wants wants... but nobody knows how to code. start studying people :whistle: i'm at least making an attempt at trying thing on my end. PS - the GPU of the PSP needs to be figured out before even Snes can run at full speeds...

07-13-2005, 08:44 AM	#28
Tayguy18 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 59 Trader Feedback: 0	I can't wait to be able to play Ocerina of time, goldeneye, pefect dark and conker's bad fur day on my PsP. I know it may not happen for a while, but since I can't code I just got to be patient, and I can't complain.

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