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Centroles · 07-11-2006, 09:57 AM

In addition to allowing custom firmwares to be run so that future upgrades are unneccesary, I know that there is a speed boost for homebrew running on 1.0 PSPs.

I know that that 1.0 gives devs access to a lot more Ram, so would things like the N64 emu and GBA emu run faster or would they have to be coded to take advantage of it.

So will devs start releasing programs for both firmwares like they used to. Especially programs like Devhook, IRShell and PSPRadio.

Remember back when they used to have seperate releases for 1.0 users and 1.5 users?

**Mister Chief** · 07-11-2006, 09:58 AM

There is no speed boost.

**Electro** · 07-11-2006, 10:07 AM

they always release 1.5 and 1.0 unless its incapably for 1.0 (ie devhook)

**Mister Chief** · 07-11-2006, 10:08 AM

Homebrew on 1.0 does load faster but it doesn't run faster.

**Animex2** · 07-11-2006, 11:16 AM

but theres more kernal ram to have access too so it can allow for better applications.

**Master-Chief** · 07-11-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Animex2

but theres more kernal ram to have access too so it can allow for better applications.

Most good applications on 1.5 can't run on 1.0 (DevHook).

**Bleet** · 07-11-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Master-Chief

Most good applications on 1.5 can't run on 1.0 (DevHook).

Is there a technical reason? Or is it just because it wasn't coded for 1.00?

**Animex2** · 07-11-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Master-Chief

Most good applications on 1.5 can't run on 1.0 (DevHook).

all the emulators and games and most applications (pspradio File Assiastant) run on 1.0

so... unless Devhook and ISO loaders are the only good applications, your wrong.

jsut that Devhook right now is one of the most popular programs so until BOOSTER makes it for 1.0 most will stay on 1.5

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Originally Posted by XSAQZW

Is there a technical reason? Or is it just because it wasn't coded for 1.00?

that pretty much is the technical reason, dev'ers just need to re-code ISO launchers to work on 1.00 beacuse of differnet call functions

**COOP96** · 07-11-2006, 12:15 PM

most homebrew apps are released with a 1.0 eboot, because the eloader uses 1.0 eboots

**mathieulh** · 07-11-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by COOP96

most homebrew apps are released with a 1.0 eboot, because the eloader uses 1.0 eboots

no, it's because there was 1.00 psp from the beggining and that it allows kernel mode, some people had 1.00 before the downdater came out and were happy to use homebrews on those, beside the 1.00 eboots are the "legit" format (legit in pspsdk terms tough lol).

**PSPduh** · 07-11-2006, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centroles

In addition to allowing custom firmwares to be run so that future upgrades are unneccesary, I know that there is a speed boost for homebrew running on 1.0 PSPs.

I know that that 1.0 gives devs access to a lot more Ram, so would things like the N64 emu and GBA emu run faster or would they have to be coded to take advantage of it.

So will devs start releasing programs for both firmwares like they used to. Especially programs like Devhook, IRShell and PSPRadio.

Remember back when they used to have seperate releases for 1.0 users and 1.5 users?

You cannot run custom firmware. FreePlay said that the modules need to be encrypted to be launched from flash0 or flash1.

zx's GBA emu would run faster on 1.00 since it has more ram. I know alot of programs like devhook, and other programs that don't work on 1.00, will soon.

**Master Inuyasha** · 07-11-2006, 03:08 PM

Damn straight, cant wait for that day to happen. Once all homebrew works, what reason would there be in staying at 1.5?

**PSPduh** · 07-11-2006, 03:11 PM

1.00 also loads eboots faster, 1.5 takes 7 seconds and 1.00 takes 2 seconds. I can't wait also to all hb runs on 1.00.

The only downside of 1.00 is that all hb doesn't run on it right now.

There are probably some other downsides. =/

**Master Inuyasha** · 07-11-2006, 03:13 PM

I only see one other downside. SOMETIMES, the icons, like homebrew icons, go retarded. Its kinda funny, but some people might think its annoying.

**FF4N4TIC** · 07-11-2006, 07:30 PM

I've never had a problem with the homebrew icons on 1.00. It's great that the international PSP hacking scene starts developing for 1.00. It IS annoying that people claim that 1.00 is inferior to 1.50 just because of the ISO Loaders being mostly incompatible. I'd like to see equality for both firmwares.

**GrandTheftAutoJunkie** · 07-11-2006, 08:28 PM

I heard the X and O buttons for 1.0 are swapped, that true?

**Animex2** · 07-11-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandTheftAutoJunkie

I heard the X and O buttons for 1.0 are swapped, that true?

yeah but its not hard to make a program to switch em back.

**gangsta_psp** · 07-11-2006, 09:13 PM

Im sticking with my 1.5

Centroles · 07-12-2006, 10:58 AM

why would you possibly stick with 1.5 once a couple more programs like devhook and izo loader are made 1.0 compatible.

even sticking with 2.5 makes sense since you atleast get an official browser. but what does 1.5 offer that 1.0 doesnt.

with 1.0, you get faster homebrew, and will likely end up with far more playable gba and n64 emulators to boot.

so why would any one stick with 1.5 in a month or two.

**GrandTheftAutoJunkie** · 07-12-2006, 11:15 AM

Once DevHook works for 1.0 and there's a program to alter the flash that swaps the O and X buttons back to normal, I'm downgrading to 1.0 and staying.

k3v1n · 07-12-2006, 03:30 PM

i'm stickin 2 1.5 4 nw :S 1.5 4 me is alredy a dream come true ^_^

Toast · 07-12-2006, 06:13 PM

I will switch to 1.0 once it can run and emulate 2.5 and 2.6. thats really what I care about.

**beverage** · 07-12-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by k3v1n

i'm stickin 2 1.5 4 nw :S 1.5 4 me is alredy a dream come true ^_^

Please post so we ca nreed what you're saying.

And custom firmwares? I'd love a 1.5/2.71 mix ^_^

**Mister Chief** · 07-12-2006, 07:15 PM

You can't swap X and O in 1.0

There is no command for it the reg in flash1 like on 1.5

**The Silent Farter** · 07-12-2006, 07:29 PM

Well I have always wanted to try 1.00 if all homebrew becomes compatible I probly still won't downgrade just because the 2.50/2.60 downgrader hase somewhere like 95.00% or higher chance of sucsess the 1.50 to 1.00 downgrader has a 85% chance sucsess and a 15% chance fail so unless it gets updated to have a better % I won't downgrade but thats just me.

**TeamOverload** · 07-12-2006, 07:35 PM

I dont trust success rates. The failed ones, are likely due to errors on the end users behalf.

**D_W_Y** · 07-12-2006, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSPduh

You cannot run custom firmware. FreePlay said that the modules need to be encrypted to be launched from flash0 or flash1.

zx's GBA emu would run faster on 1.00 since it has more ram. I know alot of programs like devhook, and other programs that don't work on 1.00, will soon.

What about the epsilon bios?

Couldn't you use devhook to run custom firmware?

**Animex2** · 07-12-2006, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_W_Y

What about the epsilon bios?

Couldn't you use devhook to run custom firmware?

the elipson bios are deemed fake.

**TeamOverload** · 07-12-2006, 08:44 PM

By who? FreePlay has been proven wrong a few times lately, so dont hang on everyone word he says.

**GrandTheftAutoJunkie** · 07-12-2006, 09:02 PM

Is there ANYWAY to swap the buttons? Because the thought of X and O being swapped permanantly is making me shy away from the downgrader.

07-11-2006, 09:57 AM	#1
Centroles Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 37 Trader Feedback: 0	Since 1.0 is faster, will developers start releasing for both 1.0 and 1.5 like befor? In addition to allowing custom firmwares to be run so that future upgrades are unneccesary, I know that there is a speed boost for homebrew running on 1.0 PSPs. I know that that 1.0 gives devs access to a lot more Ram, so would things like the N64 emu and GBA emu run faster or would they have to be coded to take advantage of it. So will devs start releasing programs for both firmwares like they used to. Especially programs like Devhook, IRShell and PSPRadio. Remember back when they used to have seperate releases for 1.0 users and 1.5 users? Last edited by Centroles; 07-11-2006 at 11:41 AM..

07-11-2006, 09:58 AM	#2
Mister Chief Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bungie Studios Posts: 7,832 Trader Feedback: 0	There is no speed boost. __________________ [CENTER][IMG]http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u240/Murasaki007/3060000000056603.gif[/IMG][COLOR=Lime] [/COLOR][CENTER] [/CENTER] [URL="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=111647"]All Forum Policies[/URL] [/CENTER] [CENTER] [/CENTER]

07-11-2006, 10:07 AM	#3
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07-11-2006, 10:08 AM	#4
Mister Chief Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bungie Studios Posts: 7,832 Trader Feedback: 0	Homebrew on 1.0 does load faster but it doesn't run faster. __________________ [CENTER][IMG]http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u240/Murasaki007/3060000000056603.gif[/IMG][COLOR=Lime] [/COLOR][CENTER] [/CENTER] [URL="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=111647"]All Forum Policies[/URL] [/CENTER] [CENTER] [/CENTER]

07-11-2006, 08:28 PM	#16
GrandTheftAutoJunkie Is an Uber Noob Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,678 Trader Feedback: 0	I heard the X and O buttons for 1.0 are swapped, that true? __________________ Memorystick reader broken. RIP PSP. :(

07-11-2006, 11:16 AM	#5
Animex2 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Buffalo, New York Posts: 374 Trader Feedback: 0	but theres more kernal ram to have access too so it can allow for better applications.

07-11-2006, 12:15 PM	#9
COOP96 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 106 Trader Feedback: 0	most homebrew apps are released with a 1.0 eboot, because the eloader uses 1.0 eboots

07-11-2006, 03:08 PM	#12
Master Inuyasha Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: GA \| Banned: 3 \| Warned: 3 Posts: 2,253 Trader Feedback: 0	Damn straight, cant wait for that day to happen. Once all homebrew works, what reason would there be in staying at 1.5?

07-11-2006, 03:11 PM	#13
PSPduh PwnerOfMe Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: LOLWUT Posts: 2,625 Trader Feedback: 1	1.00 also loads eboots faster, 1.5 takes 7 seconds and 1.00 takes 2 seconds. I can't wait also to all hb runs on 1.00. The only downside of 1.00 is that all hb doesn't run on it right now. There are probably some other downsides. =/

07-11-2006, 03:13 PM	#14
Master Inuyasha Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: GA \| Banned: 3 \| Warned: 3 Posts: 2,253 Trader Feedback: 0	I only see one other downside. SOMETIMES, the icons, like homebrew icons, go retarded. Its kinda funny, but some people might think its annoying.

07-11-2006, 07:30 PM	#15
FF4N4TIC Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 60 Trader Feedback: 0	I've never had a problem with the homebrew icons on 1.00. It's great that the international PSP hacking scene starts developing for 1.00. It IS annoying that people claim that 1.00 is inferior to 1.50 just because of the ISO Loaders being mostly incompatible. I'd like to see equality for both firmwares.

07-11-2006, 09:13 PM	#18
gangsta_psp Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 192 Trader Feedback: 0	Im sticking with my 1.5

07-12-2006, 10:58 AM	#19
Centroles Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 37 Trader Feedback: 0	why would you possibly stick with 1.5 once a couple more programs like devhook and izo loader are made 1.0 compatible. even sticking with 2.5 makes sense since you atleast get an official browser. but what does 1.5 offer that 1.0 doesnt. with 1.0, you get faster homebrew, and will likely end up with far more playable gba and n64 emulators to boot. so why would any one stick with 1.5 in a month or two.

07-12-2006, 11:15 AM	#20
GrandTheftAutoJunkie Is an Uber Noob Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,678 Trader Feedback: 0	Once DevHook works for 1.0 and there's a program to alter the flash that swaps the O and X buttons back to normal, I'm downgrading to 1.0 and staying. __________________ Memorystick reader broken. RIP PSP. :(

07-12-2006, 03:30 PM	#21
k3v1n Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 32 Trader Feedback: 0	i'm stickin 2 1.5 4 nw :S 1.5 4 me is alredy a dream come true ^_^

07-12-2006, 06:13 PM	#22
Toast Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 20 Trader Feedback: 0	I will switch to 1.0 once it can run and emulate 2.5 and 2.6. thats really what I care about.

07-12-2006, 07:15 PM	#24
Mister Chief Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bungie Studios Posts: 7,832 Trader Feedback: 0	You can't swap X and O in 1.0 There is no command for it the reg in flash1 like on 1.5 __________________ [CENTER][IMG]http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u240/Murasaki007/3060000000056603.gif[/IMG][COLOR=Lime] [/COLOR][CENTER] [/CENTER] [URL="http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=111647"]All Forum Policies[/URL] [/CENTER] [CENTER] [/CENTER]

07-12-2006, 07:29 PM	#25
The Silent Farter Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 131 Trader Feedback: 0	Well I have always wanted to try 1.00 if all homebrew becomes compatible I probly still won't downgrade just because the 2.50/2.60 downgrader hase somewhere like 95.00% or higher chance of sucsess the 1.50 to 1.00 downgrader has a 85% chance sucsess and a 15% chance fail so unless it gets updated to have a better % I won't downgrade but thats just me.

07-12-2006, 07:35 PM	#26
TeamOverload Rock Star FamousLastX Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CT\| FW: 4.01 M33-2 Posts: 11,844 Trader Feedback: 0	I dont trust success rates. The failed ones, are likely due to errors on the end users behalf. __________________

07-12-2006, 08:44 PM	#29
TeamOverload Rock Star FamousLastX Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CT\| FW: 4.01 M33-2 Posts: 11,844 Trader Feedback: 0	By who? FreePlay has been proven wrong a few times lately, so dont hang on everyone word he says. __________________

07-12-2006, 09:02 PM	#30
GrandTheftAutoJunkie Is an Uber Noob Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,678 Trader Feedback: 0	Is there ANYWAY to swap the buttons? Because the thought of X and O being swapped permanantly is making me shy away from the downgrader. __________________ Memorystick reader broken. RIP PSP. :( Last edited by GrandTheftAutoJunkie; 07-12-2006 at 09:05 PM..

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Since 1.0 is faster, will developers start releasing for both 1.0 and 1.5 like befor?