All right I was messing around with Hello World that came out changing text and what not and trying in stupid ways to get eloader to work. But for some reason the hw.tiff ended up in a folder on time and I went to go open the folder and remember that I had put it there. Well I expected a freeze and text but instead the sound crapped out and I could still navigate the XMB. Now, this didnt always happen only like 1 out of 10. What Im trying to do now is do that and then load a game and see if I can get it to maybe crash during the game. I doubt it since its clears almost all ram when loading a game but it never hurts to try.